Bad Grooming?

I'm wondering what happened this time that was different than the last. I took Scruffy to get a mid-sumer trim, to about 2 inches all over. She came home looking as good as usual, but after about 2 days she started getting horrible mats. It's been about a month and i've lost control, I'm going to have to take her to get shaved and start all over. I have never seen her so matted even in a much longer coat. I've been brushing her more than normal and she hasn't even been outside all that much. The only thing I can think of is that something happened with her grooming. Has this ever happened to anyone else?
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How old is she Could be the dreaded coat change. During that stage they'll matt as soon as you put the brush down.
Could also be that they used a new shampoo and her skin is reacting and she's blowing coat.
Maybe they washed her before they trimmed her, that will make the hair matt right then and there.
Did she get wet right after and not brushed or dried when it happened?
They also might not have taken out the undercoat this time and while you are brushing the same, the hair is different and you are getting different results.

Any of these seem to fit or is there any other info?
I reread your post again. It said that you are brushing more than normal. Did you switch brushes or anything like that? You could be breaking the guard hairs and not getting through the undercoat or not getting deep enough into the guard hairs and therefor, matts.

Wow, these dogs are high maintenance! :?
I know she isn't blowing coat, she is 18 months. I do have a different brush, but it is the same kind of pin brush I was using before. My main theory is that he didn't blow all of the clippings off of her well enough and they got all caught up and matted. Maybe I am breaking some of her hair too, which would be causing more matts.
Sometimes it's just a mystery!
At 18 months she may be doing a juvenile coat change too. When in doubt, blame it on blowing coat!

Never hurts to shave down and start over. She might be a little chilly right afterwords so some extra bed time, under the covers, might be in order.
Jasper matts up a lot too, and I brush him daily! Always behind his ears and on his neckline, there's matts. I think it's just his type of hair - it's kind of wavy, so I think his hair wants to twist together because of that. I'm nearly ready to shave him off again! lol
Scruffy's Mom wrote:
I know she isn't blowing coat, she is 18 months. I do have a different brush, but it is the same kind of pin brush I was using before. My main theory is that he didn't blow all of the clippings off of her well enough and they got all caught up and matted. Maybe I am breaking some of her hair too, which would be causing more matts.


Hmm...Jasper will be 2 in December so they're nearly the same age.
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Never hurts to shave down and start over. She might be a little chilly right afterwords so some extra bed time, under the covers, might be in order.

Did Scruffy put you up to that comment?
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Always behind his ears and on his neckline, there's matts.

That's mostly where her's are. Even if I take her collar off, it still matts. She's always gotten little ones before but never like this. Scruffy will be 2 in January, so maybe it is something with age.
She sounds like she is at the age of the next coat change from Junior (Light grey) changing into a mature coat. That starts happening around 2ish. And yes that is in my opinion worse for matting then them changing from the pup coat to the junior coat.

Easier to shave her down and start again, very hard to keep coat on them at this stage. At least you get rid of the junior coat and it let's the mature coat through easier as it is growing back with less matting, they seem to matt in hours of brushing them at this stage. :wink:

We all go through it, my first sheepie girl I got into a huge mess with at that stage, thought she was brushed through but felted underneath at skin level. Took 4 days to de-matt her with help so you learn from that, I certainly did :roll:
We had the same trouble with Ollie at that age. He was our 1st OES and we were warned about the "joys" of coat changes. We made it through the puppy to junior coat with no trouble, but the junior to adult got us! We ended up shaving him down to get through that stage. I think we all were happier, even Ollie!
Good luck - sorry about the matting.
hmmm... how interesting... Callie just turned 2, and the last several months her coat has seemed different too - it matts very easily! (same with her littermate Sadie) I was just thinking that it is because their hair is a little on the wavy side, like JakobandBrandonsmom said.
So does this mean that there is light at the end of the tunnel?? It might not always be this difficult to keep her dematted (? unmatted?)?
Well I took her to the groomers today to get shaved down, so no more matt for me for a couple of months. I hate shaving her so late in the summer, but I think it will be best to start over on this one.
Phoebe will be 2 in December I didn't know they changed coats. Does it change colors or will it just grown longer? Will the texture be different?Phoebe gets matted behind the ears too. I usually spray on some detangler for childrens hair, it helps a lot
They usualy become lighter gray when the new coats com out. the texture will bee more harsh and you will have a lot of under coats
to deal with. If you dont showing her I will suggest that you take
out the undercoats, then she dont gets matted so fast 8)
Thanks so much I never knew that. She is a very light grey now maybe I made it though it and didn't even realize
No you still have a coat change to happen into the mature coat, it will go a darker grey. You will see over the next few months, darker guard hairs appearing. If you look across the shoulders and the back of the hocks the darker more mature coat colour change starts happening there.

When you see that start happening, then the mature coat is coming through. That is the time it gets very knotty. So as tove suggested if you don't want to shave down and start again, you can remove the undercoat to help at that stage.

Coat Stages,

Puppy - Black and White
Junior Coat, starts imerging around 4-8 months with a lighter grey starting to show through the puppy coat.
Mature Coat, around 2 years onwards with a slightly darker grey immerging through the lighter grey junior coat.

It does get easier once they get there full mature coat :wink:
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