Sensitive Stomach

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My rescue sheepie has a sensitive tummy and I'm looking for someone who might have similar symptoms; recommendations. He is guesstimated at 7-8 yrs old and we are feeding him Eukanuba's Low Residue diet which is specifically designed for problematic tummys... the only other thing he gets to eat are "Buddy Buscuits" which are good for dogs with allergies... (He is definitely allergic to dust, so we figure allergy free treats are a smart way to go). He only gets maximum 4 of those per day. We keep to the lowest end of the feeding scale for the Eukanuba which is about 3-1/3 cups per day - which I break out into bksft and dinner... Bottom line is he gets NO table scraps, handouts, etc.... We are so strict... that makes it even more frustrating that his stomach seems to not be "happy". He was dignosed with a slight case of pancreatitis 2 wks ago after a day of vomiting... He was given metronidazole 2x/day for 5 days and Reglan just until the vomiting stopped.

This evening he wanted to munch out on grass just after eating which is what causes me the worry that we have a problem lurking that needs to be resolved, and I'm at a loss for what could be causing the problem.

Would appreciate feedback with any ideas/thoughts.

Thanks.
Kim in MD/DE
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I am not an expert, but we think our Chipper has a sensitive stomach too.

What finally got him straight was mixing his dry food with 3/4 cup boiled brown rice for a few days. We have him on Nutro Chicken, Rice & Oatmeal formula dry food with about 1/4 Wellness mixed in, and he is allowed one "biscuit/treat" every evening- which is the same formula of Nutro- but in a biscuit form. KNOCK ON WOOD, we have been diahrea/vomit free for over 6 weeks.

Good luck!!!
I'm also not an expert, and according to some breeders, Vets are not nutrition savvy either. I once heard from my vet that a lot of tummy problems can come from Wheat and Corn, which are hard to digest and common in doggy food.

Our neighbor has a Schnauzer who had diarrhea for a week and doctor put him on a wheat & corn free diet. You should check your doggy food label.

Sissa's formula seem to be good for digestion.
KimC wrote:
:? We keep to the lowest end of the feeding scale for the Eukanuba which is about 3-1/3 cups per day - which I break out into bksft and dinner...


I don't know how big your sheepie is but that seems like alot of food for a middle aged dog. I give my 9 year old Chummie (who is trim at 65-70) two cups per day (one cup twice a day) and I give my superactive nearly two year old 4 cups per day. Mine both do great on Eukanuba Low Res, which I only use when they are having a problem. I don't know what else might be going on with your sheepie, but it is possible that too much food could cause the runs. . .
Oh, where to begin??? Oscar has struggled with vomiting (especially water), grass eating, gas, burping, diarrhea, gurgly tummy....you name it, since he came to live with us at ten weeks old. After a couple of bouts of giardia, and switching his food multiple times (properly, slowly), he had a maldigestion panel (normal) and an endoscopy of his stomach and small intestine. The endoscopy showed inflammatory bowel disease (IBD) of the small intestine, which can cause all of these symptoms. Unfortunately, every dog is unique, and some IBD can be caused by food allergies, while others have issues with stress/anxiety that can exacerbate it. Oscar takes a low dose of metronidazole daily, as well as Pepcid AC, and currently takes prednisone (which I hate!) twice a week in order to maintain solid stool, and a gurgle-free tummy.

In an effort to get him off the pred, we are trying yet another new food, Royal Canin Venison and Potato. (We have already tried Eukanuba Lo-Res, which gave him the "itchy twitchies", as well as Science Diet Z/D and Z/D Ultra Allergen. He did okay on the Z/D Ultra, but had to go back on a full round of steroids during our trip to Florida.) After all of these food switches, I'm running out of options. My vet has referred Oscar to a holistic vet, but I can't get in until September.

I hope this info isn't too overwhelming, but I just wanted to let you know that it sounds like you are doing everything you can for your rescued puppy. Oscar is two years old, weighs 99 lbs (which my vet says is perfect for his size....he's a big boy!), and he eats 3 cups a day - half in the morning, half at night, plus I carry kibble in my pockets for his training treats. All in all, I think he gets about 4 cups per day.

If the Eukanuba isn't working, you might want to try the Science Diet Z/D Ultra Allergen. It's hydrolyzed protein, and supposed to be easy to digest. (Oscar had trouble with ALL Eukanuba products, as he'd start chewing himself about fifteen minutes after eating.)

These tummy things can be so frustrating. Good luck to you, and feel free to PM me if you'd like.
Laurie
Sounds like it's not just allergies, I think he may be lacking digestive enzymes. I would ask the vet about it, and see if adding some natural supplements will help him digest better.
My dog Barney can't handle the Buddy Biscuits...They make him SUPER gassy and loose stooly.
So if you could cut those out for a while and see if that makes any difference...
Dixie who is 1 1/2 years old has suffered from really loose stool, vomiting and bloody stool since we got her. We tried everything the vet said, and she never got much better. I boiled chickens and rice for her for 3 weeks until I couldn't look at chicken anymore. We read on the forum about Nutro for sensitive tummies and feed her 2 cups of dry in the am and 1/2 can with 2 cups at night. She loves it, and it keeps her stool compact and nice! She also gets the treats for sensitive tummies from Nutro. I hope this helps!
Purina ONE Sensitive Systems.

Tasker has a TERRIBLE digestive system, always has. I fed Lam and rice for years but discovered the above a year or so ago. It's GREAT, made with salmon, had lots of fatty acids which are good for his skin. It's not terribly expensive either.
:?: Hello everyone!! I wrote in a few weeks ago about Kyra my OES..she has had very loose stool on and off for the past few months. Needless to say we have made many trips to the vet had 2 different antibiotics, Kaopectate, beef and rice and switched her food to ProPlan. She does great for 2-3 days and then we're right back to where we startd from. Here fecal samples we're all fine, she acts like her usual self but we are very concerned. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Lisa
Hi everyone,

Phoebe who was a "foundling/rescue" had an *extremely* sensitive stomach. It was impossible to predict the next attack. At the time Phoebe came to live with us, we had a sheltie who ate a lamb & rice mix. I added about a half cup of steamed rice to Phoebe's food and that helped somewhat but didn't eradicate the problem. Because she was so thin, I started looking around for other options.

After a couple of years of very carefully trying different combinations for her, I learned a couple of things that make very little sense on the surface:
1. Phoebe has to have the tiny kibble for the dry food. The large breed size is not tolerated well by her (or by the rugs). I think it's because she doesn't chew them well enough and they hit her system whole.
2. Phoebe has to have a mix of foods. For some reason, the same food all the time gives her periods of upset (I think it's because she gets bored and looks for stuff outside). She can't tolerate switches so the food is mixed together in her food bin and scooped out at mealtime.

She did really well on the IAMs chicken and rice with Nutro Natural Choice chicken meal, rice & oatmeal (the one that says "Wholesome oatmeal for sensitive stomachs") mixed in.

When she was tested for a hormone imbalance, the vet found some crystals forming in her urinary tract. Because of this, the vet recommended a change in food. I wasn't willing to change her food and put her back to square one with the dietary stuff so I went online and checked out the Nutro website.

Phoebe now eats a combination of one part Nutro Natural Choice chicken meal, rice & oatmeal formula, one part Nutro Natural Choice senior, and two parts Nutro Ultra senior. At supper, she gets a half can of the Nutro Ultra Senior canned food mixed in with the dry food.

She's been on this for over a year without upset. She loves it (and the rugs do too). She's done so well on this mix that she was able to graduate to "frying pan dog" after the death of our sheltie.

Sorry to sound like an infomercial (I'm not on the Nutro payroll, by the way) but I thought I'd share what worked for Phoebe.
KimC wrote:
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My rescue sheepie has a sensitive tummy and I'm looking for someone who might have similar symptoms; recommendations. He is guesstimated at 7-8 yrs old and we are feeding him Eukanuba's Low Residue diet which is specifically designed for problematic tummys... the only other thing he gets to eat are "Buddy Buscuits" which are good for dogs with allergies... (He is definitely allergic to dust, so we figure allergy free treats are a smart way to go). He only gets maximum 4 of those per day. We keep to the lowest end of the feeding scale for the Eukanuba which is about 3-1/3 cups per day - which I break out into bksft and dinner... Bottom line is he gets NO table scraps, handouts, etc.... We are so strict... that makes it even more frustrating that his stomach seems to not be "happy". He was dignosed with a slight case of pancreatitis 2 wks ago after a day of vomiting... He was given metronidazole 2x/day for 5 days and Reglan just until the vomiting stopped.

This evening he wanted to munch out on grass just after eating which is what causes me the worry that we have a problem lurking that needs to be resolved, and I'm at a loss for what could be causing the problem.

Would appreciate feedback with any ideas/thoughts.

Thanks.
Kim in MD/DE


Kim,

I have a similar story. My Rat Terrier, Elvis, was diagnosed at age 5 with IBS (Irritable Bowel Syndrom) or Colitis. He was put on Prednisone to help the symptoms of diarrhea. He always had a weak stomach and we couldn't feed him a lot of foods because he would vomit. My dog is now 12 years old and in August was diagnosed with Lymphoma. The vet suggested weaning him off of Prednizone so we did. He started Chemotherapy treatments and has been in and out of the hospital because of stomach upset and diarrhea. At one point, they thought he had a bout of Pancreatitis. He stopped eating and became very thin. He weighed 19 lbs. in March and as of 2 weeks ago he only weighed 10 lbs. I was watching him melt away and felt helpless because he was so sick. After doing an ultrasound, they discovered that my dog had an enlarged gallbladder that was loaded with "gunk" and gall stones. They did emergency surgery on him and and I am happy to report that he has returned to his old self. He is eating once again (we were trying appetite stimulants before and they didn't even work), he has a lot of energy and looks like a puppy again. Nobody every checked his gallbladder and this poor thing probably suffered with it all his life. It took a serious gallbladder attack to get to the bottom of the problem. He has no diaharrea and is better than he's been in a long time. On Thursday, we will find out if Elvis in remission -- I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I hope this info helps you. Good luck!

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i don't have a sheepdog, but i do have a problem with my mini dashound. He has diarrhea, and I have no idea how to help him. We got him from a pet place called petland and we have had him about a month and like 2 weeks. Shortly after we got him he started having diarrhea. We figured it was because we hadn't been able to transition his food (we were feeding him nutro chicken, rice and oatmeal flavor), but with the nutro it seemed like he had gotten use to it.Then just last week he got diarrhea again, so we figured it must be the food so I went to goodlife recipe and he has been on that for about 3 to 4 days and no sign of change. COULD HE HAVE A SENSTIVE STOMACH? I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH HIM. thank you for your time.
it does sound like the dachshund should go to the vet. Try to get him stabilized and introduce a bland food.
Both my yorkie and sheepie eat grass and leaves as well if they can. I try to stop them but the yorkie got the habit off my old sheepie and has now passed it on to Summer. Also it is funny they watch the guinea pigs and tortoise and they do it. Summer is OK on Arden Grange chicken and rice but I darent give her anything else I tried her on some dog biscuits I had in the cupboard and she had "d" next day so it just isnt worth messing them about
Not much help really sorry!
I have a 10 year old male who has always had a sensitive intestinal tract. One summer when he was 4 years old we battled it almost all summer & almost lost him to an allergic reaction to Flagyl (Methodiazonale). If any of the dogs were going to have runny or soft stool , it would be him. Last November I switched him over to Pro Plan Sensitive Skin & Stomach , on the recommendation of my vet & (KNOCK ON WOOD) we haven't had an issue yet. He weighs in at 94 lbs, & gets 3 cups a day divided between 2 meals. Very active yet at times for a senior.
Our boys struggled with digestive problems on and off for quite a while. Our vet suggested a turkey or chicken food with no wheat. We have been feeding Pro Plan Turkey and Barley for several years now with great success. We also stick to wheat free treats.

Our six month old appears to have an iron gut (which is good because the things that go through it would curl your toenails). We've moved him to the same food and treats just to keep things simple, and he seems to be doing well.

Good luck to you.
We own a 14 month Basenji. When we got her from the breeder she came with Eukaneba puppy food. They told us she was crate trained but unfortunately she started with explosive diarrhea. We tried with no luck the veterinary' advise and finally we went to a Veterinary Allergist. We had to clean her diet and started with Royal Canine Hypoallergenic HP food she liked it. We were also given a schedule of foods to introduce, in small amounts, to see to what she was allergic or irritating her stomach. Things like eggs, beef, chicken,etc. Small amounts like a teaspoon and if she started itching or diarrhea stop giving it to them immediately.
She was diagnosed with Spastic colitis. Every morning in her first feeding we give her Forti Flora made by Purina. Mix this powder in their food. It takes a week to see results. Hang in there, this diarrhea is very frustrating but this realy works. We don't give her any dehydriated Treats since her stomach reacts to the flavoring additives they have. We found out she is allergic to beef, lamb, buffalo and pig. Ostrich tendons are great if you are allergic to all of the above. Good luck.
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