I don't want to buy one that will be to much power and shut off breakers. Then it becomes a pain in the rear.
Does anyone have a stand dryer that they use at home that doesn't do this??
Or are there any men (or women) that can tell me how much is to much when it comes to power.
I only want a stand dryer. No clamps, because my grooming tables is thick and will not hold a clamp dryer.
|I have a dryer I could put on a stand, I think it's called the Air Force Commando. It's pretty powerful but I've never tripped any breakers with it. I don't think you could buy one that would do that unless your wiring is really old or bad....can you tell I'm not an electrician|
|We have a couple dryers at work, but only one of them is on a stand. When you turn it on, you can see the power actually blink the lights. It will trip the breaker, so I don't even like to use it.
I just don't want to by something smaller and it do the same thing at my house.
I was thinking someone might have a certain dryer that they have and like, and could maybe give me a name and model number. My house is not old or anything but I just want to be careful about what to buy.
|LOL My plain old 1500 watt people dryer blows fuses sometimes if too many other things are on. We definitely have some power issues here though....|
|The stand dryer I have is 2500 Watts, 220-240v, 50HZ. Have no idea what that means LOL and whether it will blow fuses, has not on my house|
|You'll need to contact someone with more knowledge about 240v stuff than I have. You see, here in the US, we use 120v for household current except for big appliances like clothes dryers and electric range/ovens.
Watts is the power measurement
Volts is the force measurement
Amps is the load or current measurement
Hertz is the frequency.
Watts = Volts x Amps.
Amps = Watts / Volts.
For example a hair dryer here might run on 1200 watts on a 120 volt line resulting in 1200/120 = 10 amps.
I have no idea of having 240 volts there allows you to run a 2500w dryer without blowing fuses. My guess it it's fine for a circuit that isn't already heavily used.
|All our appliances here are 240v, even people hair dryers. If we travel say to the states we have to have an adaptor, and a travel appliance like a hairdryer that has lower voltage to use there.|
Commerically available dog dryers on stands are safe for home use. Look for the UL (United Laboratories) inspection sticker on them or ask the salesman what inspection is applicale. If he/she doesn't know the comercial sales brochure published by the maufacture will state the inspection approval agency. (UL is the most common in the USA, CSA for Canada or in the case of individually imported items the state or provincial power authority.) Every model of appliance like this has to have been inspected to be legal for sale - not necessarily each individual product but the design, manufacturing process and a representative sampling of the production run.
There are of course two broad categories of dryers, those for 115Vac supply and those for 240Vac. The most commonly available dryers that are sold by Ostar, Edemco etc are 115Vac and are generally sized at about 1500-1600W (watts) which puts them pretty much at the maximum size for a 115Vac circuit. Techically you could run 1725W on a 15 amp circuit but you would be "pushing the limit" and would expect the circuit to trip periodcally. This is why few if any common household appliances of any kind are rated between 1600-2000 W for continuous duty so you if you buy a comercially avaialble 115V dryer of 1500-1600W output you will be safe - assuming your house wiring is in all other respects code compliant. Very high power appliances will need 20, 25 amp or even higher rated and dedicated circuits
Use of a 115Vac 1500W dryer does however require a bit of "power management". When using one of these dryers you won't be able to run anything else on the same circuit. Therefore you will need to know which other household plugs and lights are on the same circuit and then make sure none of the lights are on and no other appliances, tv's etc are on while you are using the dryer. It's not really a big deal but does take a moment of forethought. For example the plugs in our main bathroom and front bedroom are on the same circuit. I use 600W electric heater to heat the front bedroom so when Michele uses her 1500 W hair dryer she has to remember to make sure the front bedroom heater is off or the circuit breaker opens. Depending where you dry your dog there are other options. I use two such dryers when drying our boys - yee hah talk about an advantage - but I have to ensure they are plugged into seperate circuits and that no other appliances etc are in use at the same time on either circuit. Since I dry our boys in the breakfast area of the kitchen one dryer is plugged into a 15 amp outlet on the stove - guaranteed isolated circuit! The other dryer is plugged into a circuit and no other appliances are used while I dry. I have never had a circuit breaker open while doing this and this in a +30 year old house in whose wiring I have little faith!
If you purchase a 240Vac dryer then you will be able to move up to much more power, 2500-4000W but this requires a dedicated plug be installed. Be very careful in selecting such very high power dryers as they can become too hot (dry the hair and skin) and are often very noisy which increases stress levels for both you and your OES. If you are building a grooming room this is worth considering but it is rarely worthwhile to backfit such a supply circuit into a recroom or other pre-finished area of the home. Indeed I would recommend two of the 115Vac dryers at 1500W each to a single large dryer. They would probably be less expensive, there is an inate redundancy in case one were to fail for some reason so you still have one to finsih the drying process or you can "limp" through a complete drying with just one while the other is being repaired, and two dryers are far more flexible - you can direct each one to individual areas to help speed the drying process.
As always don't hesitate to ask further questions if I have not given enough information or if I have confused you.
Thanks and Cheers
|Carl your the best!!!!!!!!
I have learned so much from you here.
I think we should have a new topic added to the forum......
Ask Carl your questions?
|hi Hannah, I have to watch what I'm running on the same circuit when I run the doggie dryer or I blow fuses.|
After my post on this thread I have recently had an e-mail exchange with a member asking for some more specifics about dog dryers and recommedations as to which ones he/she should consider purchasing. The questions and answers are probably pertinent to a number of people so I am reposting that e-mail exchange for the information of all forum members (suitably edited to protect the identity of the orginal questioner and after a couple of weeks delay to allow that member time to review the thread). The edits and a few extra comments are contained in square brackets. I hope this helps those considering the purchase of a dog dryer.
In one of your recent posts, you mention the importance of getting a
high-powered "dedicated dog dry." Can you be more specific? I have a [dog] and would love to be able to dry him at home so his hair will be as straight and soft and fluffy as when the groomer does it.
But how high of power is necessary? About what air speed is required?
I've been looking at the following 2 dryers:
Air Force Commander Dryer
Motor: 4.0 HP
Air Vol. 130 CFM
Air speed: 14,000 - 28,000 FPM
Metro Air Force Blaster
Motors (it has 2): 4.0 HP
Air Vol. 229 CFM
Air speed: 58,500 FPM
I would love to know what specific dryer you use, and any advise you can give me on what will bring the best result for my [dog].
Both of the "dryers" you have referenced are actually "blowers". They simply move a lot of air to [basically] blow away the moisture with no heating of the air at all. [Technically the air is marginally heated because it is slightly compressed but that heating isn't enough to significantly help dry the dog. And technically there is also some water evaporation but by far the biggest effect they have is to just blow the moisture away as an atomized - very very fine - mist.] While they are becoming more popular I think they are a "poor second cousin" to real dryers that have heating elements. As I have pointed out in some of my posts these blowers are much more noisy than a dryer which becomes very stressful for both the dog and groomer. They have their place, which in my opinion is for drying "spot washes" such as feet when they get muddy or full of winter grit and salt; but _I_ would never use them as a primary drying tool. The risk of "wind burn", excessive noise resulting in stress and lack of heat which is necessary to help get good hair separation and "fluffiness" simply makes these too problematic for me.
If you are only bathing and drying a [single dog] then one of the smaller Edemco or Oster dryers would be perfectly good for you. I personally use two Oster Professional series dryers. While my specific model is no longer made a very close one is the Oster 309-61 as illustrated at [ www.petsupplyhouse.com select “Blow Dryers” and then “Stand Dryers”. The Oster model is the last listed item. I use this site for illustrative purposes only as it is one I know well and can use as a reference. For a local supplier just do an internet search using google or other search engine of your choice.]
They are available at most decent dog supply stores or wholesale centers such as JB Pet Supply etc (I just use www.petsupplyhouse.com to illustrate these things as I have it in my favorites). They often come on sale so you can save a substantial amount of money if you shop around for a while.
As for specifications look for something with a power output of 1500-1650 Watts, CFM of between 100 and 250 and an air speed of 3000-5000 FPM. Try to get something with 3 heat settings and an air only setting as well (most good dryers by Oster or Edemco have these 4 settings.)
I hope this gives you a few things to consider in your shopping and decision making process.
Thanks and Cheers
Dear Carl -
I'm sorry to be so persistent, but I'm eager to see exactly which "type" of dryer you recommend. I will keep the specifications you gave me in mind, but I'm still puzzled as there are "cage dryers, stand dryers, table dryers, etc."
At the "petsupplyhouse.com" site, there are 2 types of Oster Dryers. They appear below. (The Oster 309-61 is a "Stand Dryer" -- is that what you recommend?)
Oster Model 309-61 Stand Dryer(FOB)
Price : $449.99
This dryer has 3 heat settings plus an air only setting. Spring assisted adjustable height stand with a 4 leg base. Adjustable drying angle and 360° nozzle rotation. Fine mesh air intake screen. 177 CFM @ 3696 FPM of air. Maximum wattage is 1680. Automatic over-heat protection. CSA approved. ------------------------------------------------------
Oster Model 304-61 Table Dryer
Price : $249.99
This dryer has 3 heat settings plus an air only setting. Adjustable drying angle and a fine mesh air intake screen. Can be mounted on a flat table top, or can be hung on the side of a cage by its vinyl coated feet. 202 CFM @ 3757 FPM of air. Maximum wattage is 1680. Automatic over-heat protection. CSA approved.
The Oster Model 304-61 is also offered at JB Pet Supply. Sorry to take up your time with so many questions, but thanks for all the guidance you've already provided!
You have clearly found the Oster 309-61 model dryer. It is the current equivalent to the ones I use, and yes I stand by them. Mine are now over 25 years old and I have never suffered an electrical or mechanical failure with either one. Just minor cleaning and the occasional plug replacement - common on high power appliances.
In my not so humble opinion, stand dryers are far superior to crate or table dryers. Stand dryers are exactly that, freestanding and portable so you can position them anywhere around the table and point them in any direction and at virtually any angle to dry the area you are working on. They are basically "point and forget" in that you won't have to work around them or reposition them until the area you are working on is dry and you move on to another area. Keep the nozzle about 10 -15 inches from the dog and you have plenty of room to get your hands and brush under the nozzle to groom the area being dried - brushing while drying really improves drying speed and coat appearance when done. More than just being "convenient, brushing while drying a heavily coated breed is essential to good matt free results as well as coat and skin health, be they large heavily coated breeds like OES and Afghans or small heavily coated breeds such as Bichon, Shih Tzus, Pekingese etc..
Table dryers simply have a "little" stand so they can be placed on the grooming table and you can use them hands free. But they take up room on the grooming table and since their "stand" is so short [and has minimal adjustments] it is often difficult to aim them to get a specific area for drying. [Plus] there is always the chance of knocking them off the table, blocking the air inlet which will cause them to overheat and hence shorten their service life, and it is very easy to get them too close to the dog and block the air outlet - again causing dryer overheating but also potentially burning the dog's hair and skin.
Crate dryers are in my opinion the least useful of the “professional" dryers. They have the same heater and fan components as the stand and table dryers but their nozzle is very short and they have a "wire clip" that allows you to hang them on a crate to dry the dog while he/she is in the crate. It is basically toss the dog in his/her crate, hang the dryer on the crate side and walk away while the dog is dried, well at least one small area of the dog is dried. Come back in 20 minutes, move the crate dryer around a bit and walk away and so on....To me this is a huge problem, especially with OES. The drying is uneven, the coat is not brushed while it is dried so even though the dog may be clean and eventually end up more or less dry, the coat will still look flat and dull and will probably end up matted. More importantly though there is the potential for the dog to be overheated in one area which will cause skin and coat problems. This method is also stressful and lonely for the dog!! Unless you are dealing with a corded breed I would avoid a crate dryer at all costs. Besides, a stand dryer can do the same thing just by rotating the body down to crate height and aiming the nozzle at the dog. But again I think that this is only suitable for corded breeds [and minimally appropriate even for them].
In order of preference I would recommend the following stand dryers: Oster 309-61, Edemco F7001, Challenger DK9000. All are about the same specifications except that the Challenger only has two heat settings but does have variable fan speeds. And all 3 are of a similar price. I recommend you avoid table and crate dryers entirely.
Remember my recommendations are based on my experience and what has worked for _me_ and _my_ fur children for over 30 years. If your dog is well behaved on a grooming table you should have no problem getting him/her to accept a dryer. Remember to shop around on the internet and at local dog supply stores to get the best deal. You can often save up to 25% on seasonal sales or you may even find a still boxed "new old stock" item that a store wants to get off it's inventory.
I hope that answers your questions about stand vs. table vs. crate dryers. Again don't hesitate to ask further questions. I recognize that a good dryer is a big investment and you don't want to do it twice - unless you are like me and buy two of them to deal with lots of big dogs!!! lol.
Thanks and Cheers
|THIS is the one I want
It's my dream dog dryer....lol.... you know, when I win the lottery....
I've seen this thing in action... amazing
The K9 II
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