The dog (Breed) we want to have next!!!!!!!
Anyway, we decided our next dog will be a Tibetan Terrier. We LOVE them. Pretty much every breeder let us take their dog out of the cage so we could get an idea of their weight, size, and personality. We especially like the white and black ones. I know several OES breeders who also breed these, so I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with them and what they thought? 
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| I haven't had any experience with them, just that whenever I see them on dog shows I love them! I always seem to forget about them as a breed, until I see them on tv and go, that's right I love them!! |
There a great breed, a friend of mine breeds OES and Tibetan terriers and the two breeds get on famously. Good hardy breed with great personalities too. 
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| It's the one I always wanted to get too. Not many to chose from, I'd have to travel and all that extra cost to get one here, but I find they are way over priced, so hubby would NEVER go for that.
Good luck. let us know when you get one. |
| They are cute, and I do know of several people who have both oes and tibetan terriers.... |
How interesting that so many people have both breeds together. Hmmm...I'm going to have to read up on them! Lately, I've been researching Havanese. Thinking, long range, maybe two or three years ahead, of adding to the pack.  |
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When I first came here (wanting to know whether OES' were right for me), I told everyone that I was comparing them to Havanese, Coton de tulear's, briards, and bouvier de flandres. Anyway......... well when we were at the show, we ran across the haveneses. I still love them, but my husband felt like they were exactly what we were trying to avoid (what we have now). ...which is the same bone structure as our maltese (thin, fragile). The breeders went on and on about how they are a sturdy breed and I've only read that they are, ...but either way... I don't think I could convince my husband to get one anymore. Everything was PERFECT about the ones we met (except for how rough we felt our boy and oes could be with them). |
| LOVE YOUR NEW PICTURES!!!!!!!!!! Are you adding dog #3? |
No way. Not now.  We're definitely adding another one, but we would need our yard first and maybe a bigger home as well. We're talking 3 yrs from now. I know people say they have enough room and have a smaller place than we do, but we already feel it's crowded here.  |
| Yuki plays well with your Maltese, though, right? How long will you guys be stationed in Alaska? Do you have any idea? |
| Eeeek...a Tibetan Terror. After my Mom's last OES died in 1993, I did some research and we found the most adorable black and white Tibetan Terrier from a breeder in IL. Pandy is still alive at age 13 and is now blind. Word of caution...they are NOTHING like OES. Mom had said, "No more sheepdogs" as she wouldn't be able to assist the next one if the hips were bad. So..we took in Pandy. Back then, the internet wasn't around and the Tibetan Terrier was just becoming less rare. We mainly purchased one solely on the vet telling us that they don't shed. We definitely didn't do enough research. Make sure you talk at length to the breeders. Although each dog is different, they do tend to have similar qualities. Tibetan Terriers are not part of the terrier family despite their name. They were bred to be "lucky" dogs and don't do any work. They basically look pretty and are VERY intelligent and catlike. Tend to be independent and gravitate towards one person in the household. Their intelligence needs to be directed in a positive manner otherwise you will end up with a lot of mischevious behavior. You can see the wheels turning in their heads and eyes. I used to call Pandy, "Monkey Eyes" until she went blind. In addition, Pandy has had a ton of medical problems starting at age 3. She had to have surgery on the tendons surrounding her knees, horrible allergy problems, ear problems....The vet has told my Mom that as the Tibetans in their practice got a little bit older, most of them had allergy and skin problems. My Mom has spent more money on Pandy then her two sheepdogs together. As I said, each dog is different, so do A LOT of research. My suggestion...there's nothing like an OES! |
We went to look at the TT because we had already researched the breed online (before we got yuki) and were interested. The only drawback I had was basically "what dog gets along with other dogs, other animals, and children the most" which put OES up front (and why we chose it). I'm surprised to hear about the health problems because I've only read that they are a hardy breed (with skin problems/flea sensitivity). My maltese is a healthy dog (not known to have all kinds of problems), but I can tell you people that have paid $8,000+ for surgeries.  :Crazy  Thanks for the information. It was all useful and interesting!
We want our next dog to either be an OES OR look like an OES (and if we go this route, it will be smaller as well). I'm not an "Oes' are the only way to go now that we've own one" person because I love too many other breeds with different personalities. My husband only wants an OES, but knows I'd probably prefer a smaller breed to tote around ...and I wouldn't mind a 'known' smarter breed.
Yuki getsalong with our maltese perfectly!! However, I wouldn't say my maltese gets along with her. It's VERY obvious she knows Yuki is not too bright and she feels the need to tell her "hey doofus, you get the toy out this way... you don't just ram your butt everywhere... for pete's sake, watch where you're GOING!!" I also hate worrying about where Yuki is always shoving her big butt or when she pounces backwards ...where is our smaller dog? Or when she gets excited and practically slides down the stairs (missing pretty much every one) ...will she tumble over our maltese? She's come so close and the times she's stepped on her.. I FREAK because our maltese yelps in pain. Their bone structure is too fragile for a bigger accident. I think the combo works just fine, but we would have preferred a small dog with a stronger frame such as a shih tzu. |
| I wish my mom's & sister's shih tzus would play with my dogs. They don't like them at all. I am not sure if it's because of their size or their boisterious natures, but the shih tzus avoid my two if at all possible. Whereas Beau & Gen have never met a dog they didn't like. I would just like to see them play with a smaller dog to see how well they treat them. Mr Muggs, the foster I have now is pretty small compared to them, and they play pretty gently with him. So that's hopeful. |
Joahaeyo wrote: Yuki getsalong with our maltese perfectly!!
However, I wouldn't say my maltese gets along with her. It's VERY obvious she knows Yuki is not too bright and she feels the need to tell her "hey doofus, you get the toy out this way... you don't just ram your butt everywhere... for pete's sake, watch where you're GOING!!" I also hate worrying about where Yuki is always shoving her big butt or when she pounces backwards ...where is our smaller dog? Or when she gets excited and practically slides down the stairs (missing pretty much every one) ...will she tumble over our maltese? She's come so close and the times she's stepped on her.. I FREAK because our maltese yelps in pain. Their bone structure is too fragile for a bigger accident. I think the combo works just fine, but we would have preferred a small dog with a stronger frame such as a shih tzu.I had to laugh at that because it's VERY clear that Ty knows who has the BRAINS in this house and wastes NO OPPORTUNITY to remind Tasker who it is!!!! But I also worry alot about the size difference and NEVER leave them alone together. I know Tasker would never intentionally hurt Ty but he might carried away and all it would take is one paw or one snap!!!! |
| I did neglect to say that our Tibetan loves other dogs and kids. So, she isn't all that bad. Mom and her just sit outside or go to Petsmart waiting for others to snff or pet her. It's very sweet actually. She's blind but her tail still wags in a circle when other dogs or puppies or small kids are around. Pandy never liked to be picked up or put in your lap until recently. She would growl and snap at you. I find that the bigger the dog, the more they want to sit in your lap. |
| My best friend has a TT. He is the cutest fluffiest most adorable little guy. She went through a reputable breeder and has spent the last year loving her TT right along with wondering why she ever got him. Everytime I talk to her she has a new story. So far she has had to deal with him chewing everything in sight...ok so that's normal. But now it's at the point where they have to keep him kenneled if they have company as the dog attacks anyone who comes into the house. Once you warm up to him he is the sweetest most lovable little guy,but, still have to be carefull as he has been known to switch in an instant and snap. My friend has always been awsome with her dogs training them and keeping them healthy so it makes you wonder if it's the breed? The other thing is the dog can clear a fence in a single leap. |
| I love the OES but felt that it was too big a dog for me - but love the shaggy dog look. I had a Tibetan Terrier for almost fourteen years - and he passed away last Oct. Tucker was a VERY smart dog, wonderful disposition, very loyal to the family - wonderful with children. With the exception of caring for his coat - he was a very low maintenance type of dog. His disposition while more independant than what I was used to in a dog made him a perfect pet. While he loved attention (who doesn't), he didn't beg for it.
We are now off to a Havanese - an even smaller shaggy dog. I know what you are saying about some of them looking like a Maltese - but the first one I saw at a dog show - bore no resemblance to a Maltese and was quite sturdy and solid for a small dog = similiar to the way a Tibetan is built. Look for a good breeder - as there is a world of difference. When I got my Tucker - I saw a breeder who's dogs bore no resemblance to my my handsome dog (he was a golden sable beauty). Lots of differences depending on the lines of the breeding - same as Havanese - as there was such a small gene pool that started both breeds in NA. Good luck with your search... |
Mom of Tibetan wrote: We are now off to a Havanese - an even smaller shaggy dog. I know what you are saying about some of them looking like a Maltese - but the first one I saw at a dog show - bore no resemblance to a Maltese and was quite sturdy and solid for a small dog = similiar to the way a Tibetan is built.
Nothing wrong with looking like a Maltese |
| "Their intelligence needs to be directed in a positive manner otherwise you will end up with a lot of mischevious behavior. You can see the wheels turning in their heads and eyes"
You telling me that sheepies aren't like the above - I know all dogs aren't the same, even that of the same breed. Our neighbours have two Tibetan terriors and from what they have commented, they are loving, playful dogs - and from the general characteristics, these two Tibetans are just like my sheepie |
| How about a PON? They have some long unpronounable name so they are known here as Polish Lowland Sheepdogs, they look like a small version of an OES, very cute. There was one named Izzie in Daisy's conformation class and she was adorable.
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I belonged to their message board for awhile. I worry about aggression. While you can get a dog raised and bred correctly that doesn't have problems with other animals or kids... I don't want a dog with a stronger prey instinct (like when my cat darts off out of the blue b/c she WANTS to be chased or bug you) .....or a dog that isn't more forgiving to a little kid's hand. I want a dog that's KNOWN to be good with all of the above. OES was the only breed that ranked the best suitable for children, other dogs, same breed, and other pets. The others were stated to be more finicky about one of the above. Not to mention that when I searched for breeders in the US, it didn't turn up many results. |
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