Hip Dysplasia - SURGERY

First off, I want to say that I am unsure if I have a full blooded OES. At first we were told he was a Great Pyrnees, but that is COMPLETELY out of the question.. All the vets we have seen believe he is Old English Sheepdog, but since he is so young it is hard to tell..

I first got Gus in July, he is now 7 months old and I just brought him home today from having a TPO (triple pelvic osteotomy). I took him in December to the vet and told him that he was having trouble walking on his back feet, limping, etc. He took x-rays and told me he had hip dysplasia. He set me up an appointment with a animal hospital for Gus to have surgery. The vet said he had very severe hip dysplasia and it was necessary to do the surgery as soon as possible.. We made an appt. for two weeks later. I took Gus to the hospital on Wednesday and I just went and picked him up today. Evidentally the surgery went well. He goes for a check up in 4 weeks and then we have to schedule another TPO surgery for the other hip.

Just wondering if anyone else has had to do the surgery or know anything they would like to share with me, Thanks!! :D
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Welcome to the forum. So sorry that you and Gus have to go through this ordeal.

I am not personally familiar with this surgery, others here may be. I hope he has a fast and easy recovery! If he is an OES keeping him quiet for several weeks may be a difficult task.

How did you come to own Gus, from a shelter, or other rescue program? Be sure to upload some pics to the photo gallery (your membership in the forum gives you an account at http://photos.oes.org as well) and We can probably help you to determine if you've got a full-blooded sheepie!

Again, welcome and I hope the next few weeks go smoothly.
Having both Pyrs and OES, I assure you, there are differences! That said there are several breeders mixing the two and selling or dumping the results. We need pictures, but I suspect you might have one of these wooly mammoths.

Just a note, Pyrs have the double dew claws in back, unless some idiot removed them. (yeah, that's six nails in back or sometimes seven as somtimes one of the dews splits into two....sheesh) Unlike other breeds, the dews in Pyrs are actual baby toes and used to help the dogs climb.

Anyway, TPO surgery does give the dog a chance at a normal life. Under no circumstances however, allow this dog to get heavy. Keep him slim. Also after surgery heals ask about developing those thigh muscles. Swimming is great and yes, some clinics have theraputic dog swim tanks.
OK, I just posted puppy pics of Gus and I'm going to try and post some more of him in a bit!
I have assisted several vets in TPO surgeries and have had several friends go through it with their dogs. It's a great surgery that will make him good as new. He will defeinitly need to stay quiet for several weeks to probably a couple of months if you are having both sides done. Just wondering.... why didn't you have the bilateral TPO done. I mean they do both sides at the same time. Any reason they advised against it or decided not to go that route?? Anyway, the surgery will make him feel so much better and youll pretty much have a regular old pup again but lots and lots of rest, preferable no running and playing with other dogs and probably no walks for a while either, and pain meds are in order. the vet probably gave you some tranquilizers to keep your pup calm anyway and most likely a fentanyl patch as well. Good luck with the recovery, let us know how your baby does!
Evidentally the hospital I took him to just doesn't do the surgery on both sides at the same time, they said they just don't think that's best for the animal. But yes, I have sedatives, pain killers, and some anti-inflammatories... He has gotten very clingy since the surgery. Whines if I don't pay enough attention to him and general stuff like that...
Welcome to the forum! :)

Sorry to hear of the difficulties with your boy... I hope he's feeling better soon, and I have heard of some great results with the TPO surgery.

I love the pics, he is adorable, and looks like such a happy dog :)
I would say he is not pure OES, but certainly part OES from that happy goofy look on his face! :)
Welcome to the forum, I hope gus's surgery goes well, he is a real cutie and definately has a bit of OES in him, the face says it all. :wink:
Without actually feeling Gus, watching how he carries his tail, and final size, an OES x Great Pyr is a good guess. The face isn't right for full Pyr and the tail.....well, Pyr tails are longer and I've never seen one with the sheepdog markings.

Poor Gus. We had a TPLO added "L" on our Great Pyr Sam. Pyrs are extremely stoic, I hope Gus got that part. We put Sam's giant wire crate in the dining room so he could watch us and we could talk to him. The beach towel sling to hold him up for outdoor needs was kinda fun. He healed well. Don't rush it though, they will tell you they feel better than they actually are.

One reason not to do bilateral surgery as some feel there's a greater chance for dislocation during healing process.

sheepieboss
Poor Gus .. Hope he feels better...He definately has oes in him, especially from his sleeping pose..LOL...he is a cutie :D
The tail kind of throws you but his puppy picture looks an awful lot like my Bosley, at 8 weeks old.


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He's very cute! I hope he heals quickly and that the surgery has "fixed" him up good!! :D
Awwww! He's adorable :D

I'm sorry he has to suffer through the recovery period but it's great that Gus got the TPO surgery when he needed it! There is such a small window of opportunity... while they're still growing and before bone changes take place. We have a sheepie with hd... she was 10 1/2 months old when she arrived but her x-rays at 9 months showed bone changes had already occured so she couldn't have the TPO surgery. She'll have an FHO if it's ever required.

Wishing Gus the very best!
No matter what mix he is with OES, he's just plain adorable!! :lol: So glad to hear the first TPO surgery went well and that you caught it early enough. Drezzie had an FHO in Nov 04, but due to her age and general condition since recuperating from the first surgery, we will not do her other hip. :cry:

Keep us posted!

Chris
Welcome to the forum! Gus is absolutely adorable and definintely has an OES face. I call it the "Grover" face with their big noses and happy eyes. Just look like Grover to me!

Sorry, to hear about his troubles but hope he feels better soon. He'll thank you for his surgery later!
Thank you guys so much for being so supportive and kind! Gus is definetly a Cutie! He's doing better today, the 4th day after the surgery.. Yesterday was hard on him.. Hopefully it'll be a fast recovery. He's become very dependent since the surgery (ex: wants someone around, wants to be petted 24/7...) .. Don't know if this is common in OES or if it is just him, but he LOVES to give kisses to ANYONE and ANYTIME... He'll just be sitting on the floor and he'll be kissing his eCollar.. :lol: Very Funny
We noticed thor my siberian husky puppy limping at 8 months. He is now
10 months old and has had TPO on both hips. The surgery went well and
it is tough to keep him relaxed. He walks so good it is unbieliviable.Well
it is a slow walk and trot which he is not suppossed to do. We brought
him to an orthopedic specialist the bill was a little steep but he is well
worth it. I hope gus gets well soon !!!!! :wink:
sorry so to heard about what you must be going through .. well you need to see my pics gus looks just like derby he is now 1 year old he has webb feet does yours .. they look the same i rescued derby so not sure what he is either take a look they look like twins !! good luck
Hi, my 8 mo. old Chloe was diagnosed with severe hip dysplasia, the socket is almost flat on the right side and has 30% coverage on the left. The vet is not hopeful for a surgical fix. Can anyone tell me if their sheepie's dysplasia was as bad as this before surgery? :wag:
I responded to your other post. One of my OES girls was a bad HD dog. This was before hip replacement. Only thing they could so was snip some inside ligaments or tendons in hopes of relieving pressure. No longer done because they didn't see much improvement. She lived a quiet life, not a lot of running and jumping but we walked a lot together, she was always up for a camping trip even if she did take more of her share of the tent.

My current OES x is a hip disaster including torn ACL. We opted not for surgery as it would have required a complete rebuild and we couldn't afford it at the time. We opted for pain meds. He's been on Rimadyl for 6 years, walks funny, runs even funnier, but still an extremely loving animal.

So don't feel pressured, you want the best but sometimes it isn't possible.
It's a sad condition. :( I don't know how Panda compares to Chloe based on words. This is a poor picture but it's of an x-ray done at 9 months while with her 2nd owner (first named Panda, then named Madison, and back to Panda because she responded better to it :).)
http://www.oesusa.com/MadisonXray.jpg

Panda participated in a hip dysplasia gene study back in May 2006 and this is one of the x-rays that we sent in. She was around 19 months at that time-
http://oesusa.com/PandaXray2.jpg

Is an FHO an option? Treatment can also depend on how the dog is responding to their individual condition. Some do well despite horrible x-rays, others with less severe looking x-rays maybe completely lame. I'm sure there are other deciding factors too.

Panda arrived at about 10 1/2 months of age. She lacked muscle, stumbled over her feet and was in pain... could be mobile for maybe 5 minutes, then had to sit. I fully expected we'd need to do surgery right away. But she slowly improved over the next couple of months and she was able to delay surgery until last April 2012 when she was about 7 1/2 years old. She had an FHO down at Michigan State University. Yet another thing I never updated- http://www.oesusa.com/PandaFHO.htm but she is doing much better. She does tend to favor the other hip at times... we were told that might happen. She will never be a long distance walker or athlete but she can run in the backyard, pounce, jump up on the bed, do steps and play (though she's not much of a dog-dog, rather more of a people-dog). When excited and asked to sit, the leg goes out to the side in a funny way but it doesn't appear to phase her. She IS on pain meds daily though- 1/2 Prevacox and 1 Tramadol divided into 2 doses.

Just what we did... kept her lean, limited the type of exercise/play and allowed her to self-limit what she could do (they need muscle to help them compensate for what's lacking in the back end), supplements http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm ... 84&aid=444 .

I wish you and your girl the very best.
Just additional info...
Panda had her annual checkup today. Doc checked her FHO side thigh... she commented on her nice muscle mass. We had wondered how far she'd come back after the surgery.

Just before her FHO surgery on her right hip in April 2012, she was toe touching with that leg... she was frequently sitting and I could see her pain. MSU diagnosis the day before surgery...

"Bilateral hip dysplasia with severe bilateral coxofemoral osteoarthritis and severe bilateral pelvic limb muscle disuse atrophy."

Panda's kept slim and she's not a real active girl but it must be just enough because she's come back nicely. Her left hip is still affected and there's severe arthritis in her spine but areas of her spine have fused (so less painful). Still, she's doing well.

Just one case of hip dysplasia... but possible hope if an FHO is an option.
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