Still not potty trained after one year

I was wondering if anyone still has a dog that is over a year that is not potty trained? If we don't keep a very close eye on her, she goes in the house. We have crate trained her, and she does go outside, but it doesn't bother her to go inside too. I have had many dogs, and have never had one I could not train. She also does not let us know when she has to go out, no barking, scratching at the door, nothing! She will sometimes just squat in front of you and go. I don't know what to do. We have tried everything. Are sheepies hard to train?
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I once had a dog that was very hard to train. She wasn't an OES though. She was a mix. It turned out that she was not very bright. Sweet, but not bright. Therefore, it took us walking her every hour for a while until she "got it". Once she did, and it took a while, she was fine. But it did take a LONG TIME. :wink: Right now I have an OES who messes the house. However, it is very clear that she is sending us a message.
Good luck! Like always it might be wise to make sure she doesn't have anything physically wrong.
I recently read a great training book called catch your dog doing something right. The chapter on potty traning is great. It said to have your dog accosiate a toy with going potty a special toy you give her only when its time to go out. It gives the dog a way of telling you hey I have to go potty.I found the book at our library it is written byKrista Cantrell. I also have used atachment training to potty train a hard to train pup. You keep the dog leashed to you if she is not in her creat this way she dosn't get a chance to mess up. Lots of positive time with mom to.you have to adjust to this but you will get so used to the dog and she you that it becomes a dance.
Is this just a behavioral issue or could it perhaps be medical?

My neighbor found out that her young dog had a urinary tract infection as she was urinating in her house. It ended up being related to her diet as she was feeding the dog cooked chicken everyday and not dog food. A year just seems a long time for her not catching on.
I have a dog that is 5 months, he goes outside just fine, but still soils in the house when I am not giving him attention. I am crate training him and it is not working. I take him out like clock work every 3 hours and come back in after every walk and play with him for 15-30minutes. About 5 minutes after I stop playtime, he soils in the house for attention. I have tried everything from leaving him in the crate all day and only letting him out for playtime and potty to even giving him more play time. I have played with him up to an hour and he still soiled in the house for more attention. Does anyone have any direction or words of encouragement. I am getting frustrated at this point.
Rule out any medical causes for the behavior first!

I would also suggest NOT making a big deal of accidents - don't punish them - don't yell, etc. If they are doing it for attention - any attention (negative or positive) will reinforce the behavior! They also will get very confused - and you may end up having problems with getting the dog to go at all - outside or inside - without fear of getting in trouble.

However, when they go outside - make a big deal of how good they were - Jump up and down like crazy, praise them - give treats if necessary - make a fool of yourself with your excitement - make up a command for it (i.e. "Potty", etc.) and say "Good Potty". Your neighbors will think you have flipped your lid - but it works for the dog!

Get on a schedule - (especially with the young pups) - when they wake up - take them out, after they eat - take them out - after they play, take them out, before they go to bed - when they come out of their crate,
etc. etc.

JMO!
Kristen
Is ignoring him even when he soils the carpet to get attention the best treatment for soiling to get attention. How long should I ignore him after he does it.
I wouldn't ignore him - that's a form of punishment. He may not be doing this for attention - 5 months is still fairly young to expect perfection in house training. I'd ignore the fact that he had an accident - but be sure to give him tons of attention/praise when he goes outside!

See if you can try and "read him" - and catch him before he's going to go - bringing him outside and tell him to "go potty" (or whatever your "command" will be). It's alot of work - and you need to be watching them all the time. You may want to try and keep him tethered to you on a leash if you still find you're having problems.
I've got a dog that just turned a year - she's a med-lg mix - she goes outside great!! but is still have accidnents in the house - the other night she went pee right in my bed - I don't know what to do anymore - and she will pee in her kennel without a second thought - I was always told dogs should be able to hold their bladder at least 8 hours is that not true??? HELP!
She should be able to hold all night by 1 year old, have you had her checked for a possible Urinary tract infection or some other medical issue?

Maybe take her to the vet and have a urine sample taken and checked. :wink:

I hope the waterworks settle down for your girl and you can find a cause for the problem.
We're trying to train Harley, our 3 1/2 year old rescue-- has anyone trained an older dog before? He lived outside all the time before we got him, so he has no previous house-training.

He never goes in his crate, and he'll sleep through the night without pottying. We've had him for a week, and he's had 2 accidents at our house and 2 at my parents' house this weekend (those last two we caught him in the act and said "no" and took him outside).

We're trying to watch him constantly to prevent accidents and then lots of praise when he goes outside. We also are saying "go potty" over and over while he goes. However, when we take him out, sometimes he goes and sometimes he doesn't. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, really-- he has no real pattern to it.

I realize it's way too soon to tell anything about how the training is going, but I thought I'd see if anyone had house-trained an older dog, what did you do, and did it end up working?
my dog olive has the same problem she is now 16 months and finally getting the potty thing. first i blocked off the kitchen so she has plenty of room, but it is her area and its tiled so accidents are easy clean up. second i got a scedule and i stick to it...even on weekends she is down to a science. if she does not go when i take her out she goes in the kitchen untill the next time i take her out. she has learned to get free time out in the main area she must stick to the routine. i also only give her treats when she goes outside to potty. if she does not go then no treat. that is what the treats are for. lastly i realized she was bored and it was my fault. i was not making sure she had enough exercise and she would do things (like pee right in front of me) to get my attention. the way i reacted to her going in the house she took it as a game. she would then run from me and play catch me if you can, so i had to make more time for games outside. i took me until over a year old for us to get it right. Olive still goes piddle when she gets really excited so i still have to keep her in safe places when guests come over, but we are getting there. :wink:
I've retrained many rescues, and I find it is MUCH easier to house train an adult than it is a puppy.
An adult can hold it longer, and I would start from scratch with crate training just like you would with a puppy. You'll find it works much better with an adult because they can hold it longer and they get the idea much faster. That has always been my experience anyway.
Breena was having a hard time understanding that she needed to tell us when she had to go so we attached a ribbon to our door and on the end tied big jingle bells and some smaller high pitched ones. When we took her out we took her paw and "made" her ring the bells. Later she would go to the spot but not ring the bells so we would say "Show me what you need" and she would ring after prompting. Now ( even in the midst of play) she will run to the door and either bat at the bells with her paw or if she really has to go she will grab the ribbon in her mouth and swing it so you can really hear it. I yell "coming" and she waits until I come. I swear by these things. Cheap too! :D
Abby had no sign when she had to go out, so I hung a leather strap with bells by the door and everytime we would go out I would ring the bells. It did not take her long till she would push the bells with her nose to let us know when she had to go out.
Has seen been seen by her vet? Before he or she brushes you off, have them do a complete exam. Ectopic ureters can be one problem. In back of my mind it seems my vet found another anatomical cause...........not on my dog so I can't remember.....ah, here it is, page 3, a section of skin over the vulva :

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