vitamins ect.

Our breeder recommended a vitamin for the puppy for two years. She has also done some research because of our first dog having hipdisplasya and says we should give him MSM. Anybody ever hear anything about this. Archie is on glucosemin ( not spelled right). Any input would be welcome
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Our Holistic veterinarian has recommended MSM for our 2 year old sheepdog as well as our 12 year old American Eskimo. We had started the American Eskimo on glucosamine, however he couldn't handle it (was vomiting). So, we changed over to MSM and it seems to work extremely well.
Do you give it as a pill or in the powder mixed in with something?
Thanks Nici
The doctor originally suggested that I give it as a powder mixed in with his food. It's the only thing Baxter (our sheepie) has ever refused to eat. Since I am supposed to give him 1/2 capsule twice a day, I decided to purchase some empty gelatin capsules (size 1) and split the original capsules contents into two capsules. Then I just put fold the smaller capsule into whatever soft food I have around (cheese, peanut butter etc) and Baxter will take it without a problem.

Good luck
jennifer_t wrote:
Then I just put fold the smaller capsule into whatever soft food I have around (cheese, peanut butter etc) and Baxter will take it without a problem.

Probably loves it and looks at it as a treat, too! :D
Oh yeah....now if he doesn't get his "pill" on time, I get a LOOK!
I give my 13 year old OES 2 MSM at night along with a baby asprin and a vitiam C, it seems to help, he will eat us out of house and home, but he can't navigate those hind legs,also has so many lumps and bumps but the vet said as long as he eats and drinks don't worry, I also give the same to 5 year old OES and my year old golden! and if they don't get it on time do i get looks, they love it in liverwurst! Hope this helps a little!

:D
I use MSM all the time along with Vit C and flax seed oil and fish seed oil in liverwurst they love it!
What's "MSM"?
I don't know what "MSM" is either. But what I wanted to ask is: What does anyone feel about giving the supplement Seameal by Solid Gold. I am giving it to Blue Star and it's not a problem so far. I don't see any difference in the way she eats her food. I was recommended it by my boss for pigment around her eyes. Also it's good for skin and coat. Any comments on this product? I feed Eagle Large Breed Puppy food with a small amount of Iams puppy canned food twice a day along with 1/4 teaspoon of the seameal.

May Blue Star's Mom
I've never heard of sealmeal, I don't give my girls any supplements at all. I'm curious as to why you want to affect the pigmentation around your dogs eyes?
I would have to say that there won't be any supplements to change the pigmentation around your dog's eyes. I'd like more info about that - if your boss has any. (Please!)

Kristen
My boss is a breeder of American Staffordshire Terriers. She kept looking at Blue Star's eyes. She has black spots that outline her eyes but don't go all the way around. Bonnie, my boss, said that kelp, the main ingredient in Seameal will increase the pigment so it connects all the way around the eye. I guess Amstaffs have to have this for standard, so she uses this and swears it increased pigment. So I guess I'm trying to make the eyes look more even. Even if it doesn't work for the eyes the vitamins and minerals she is getting won't hurt. They say it helps in the health of skin and coat.

Does this make any sense Willowsprite?

Blue Star's Mom
Seameal Supplement by Solid Gold is the vitamins and minerals that go with their food. They do not add vitamins and minerals to the food as when it is processed they lose some of their value. Most foods have the vitamins and minerals in the food. I have fed this to Oliver who had allergies and now to Oreo as it is a good food, he still has nice brown eyes with black eye liner just like when we got him. We feed Hundnflocken, which is lamb and rice
Many sheepies have little or no pigment around their eyes, or bits of pigment that do not connect like you described. Sometimes it will increase as they age, and sometimes not. Sky has no pigment around her eyes whatsoever, but she has a white head and one blue eye so that is not surprising. I prefer the look of lots of pigment around the eyes, but I don't think there is anything scientific to back up that claim that a nutritional supplement could increase pgiment. I'm curious though, so just for fun I will look into it and see what I can find...
Well, from what I have found, kelp supplements are indeed healthy, however I believe in the case of increasing pigment, it would only do so on skin that was pigmented to begin with, and had faded.
I thank everyone for the information. You guys are great! :D I will keep giving Blue Star the seameal with her food. She is doing well at 3 1/2 mos old. She has plenty of energy and her coat is growing rapidly. I think her eyes are beautiful just as they are and I won't be dissappointed if they stay as they are :)
This is very interesting about the Seameal. You're right - it's other benefits will be worth taking it anyway - but I wonder how they could judge it's effects on pigmentation - since dog's pigmentation increases with age.

Kristen
Please be careful about giving your pup minerals. Water soluble vitamins are easy because we (and other animals) just pass what we don't use but the minerals are something completely different. And when in excess amounts, e.g., iron, problems occur.

Kibble manufacturers add vitamins and minerals to their products because they pretty much make what they cook inert and have to put something of value back in to the product. I do not know of any major producer who tests their products for nutritional value after the product has been produced. They don't have to based on FDA regulations.

Pitcairn's book on Dog Nutrition is very good and available from both Barnes and Noble and Amazon. A very good read - worth the time.
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