Dossie Doe strikes like a Cobra I'm not kiddin'

Well let me tell ya, this 5 month old sheepie is a MESS! She is sooo hardheaded it's not even funny. She is still chewing on me, and thank God her teeth are not needles any more. She doesn't not want to stop to "NO", there is nothing that I do that will make her stop. I refuse to hit her, I have taken 1 finger and popped the top of her nose and she just comes back harder. She can weave and bob like a prize fighter, and she thinks she is playing and that makes it even worse. She is not growling or showing any aggressive behavior. I'm looking into a training class, but for the most part she sits "ok" for a 5 month puppy, walks on the leash without trouble. But according to her there is no such word as no. She has got more chew toys, and bones whatever, but my arm is her "crack". This is my second sheepdog and she is so different from Maggie. Maggie was stubborn but this one Oh My God! She is very friendly with anyone she meets, but has got to chew. Did I just forget what a puppy was like, it has been 13 years since I have had a puppy, but I swear I don't remember Maggie being this well just crazy? Any helpful hints would be greatly appriciated.

Armless in Nashville
Alice Marie
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Training is a must!! At 5 months old, she would naturally be teething and want to chew on things, but she needs to understand NO when she hears it. Right now it seems as if she views herself as alpha, and that must stop. Try the Nothing In Life Is Free technique. Make her work for everything - food, treats, affection.

The fact that she's not showing aggresion and is friendly with everyone is a good sign. She just needs to learn her place in the pack, and that YOU are alpha, not her.

Good luck, and keep us posted.

Chris
Personally I don't use "no". It is used so often that it may leave the dog not knowing what the word means. They don't generalize the same way as us.
Whenever I catch that word on the tip of my tongue I think"what do I want the dog to do instead" and then give them something else to do. And a tap on the nose is certainly an invitation to play :)
It sound to me like she needs a job, and/or more training, but at 5 months old you need to continue to provide alternate behaviors that you want her to do. Just like a 2 year old toddler, they won't just sit there nicely and watch for long. So engage her in somethig to keep her busy and happy.
LEAVE IT!
Training, ice cubes, and frozen old socks can be your best friend. LOL
Good luck! :)
Ahh, the power of a good command! If you have not yet, you may also try reading The Dog Listener: Learn How to Communicate with Your Dog for Willing Cooperation, by Jan Fennell. This book is great for teaching you how to establish an alpha relationship with your dog, so that she will view you (and family members) as the leader, not the chew toy! Plus it has some really wonderful regular training tips too, I LOVE the heeling section! good luck with your puppy!

Karen :)
Our Avalon was the same way. She used to do this all the time...then we adopted NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE....Occassionally if you go outside immediately after she has eaten...she does this too...just gets so excited that mommy is outside to play. She jumps on me and tries to grab my hand with her mouth. She no longer bites when doing this. Patience, patience, patience along with LOTS of gentle training will help this bad habit.
We make Avalon work for every pet she gets. She is one needy dog, its like she was attention starved in her first home and from what I learned about her first home this might be true. She wants to be the centre of attention ALL the time. She horns in when we are petting Merlin...we make her 'wait' for her turn. She is coming along fabulously. Also I found that 'wearing' her...having her leashed and attached to you helped quite a bit in her learning to listen to me. We are working on the "look at me" she is too smart...if I have a treat she does whatever I want,.. if I dont have a treat it is 50/50 that she will do what I want. Good thing she is so lovable!
Some dogs get so excited they mouth everyone. Just try not to make a game out of it. If she bites and you tell her no or leave-it and she attempts to bite a second time, turn your back on her and leave. The gentle punishment is to be denied human attention.

Have you tried "the pinch"? The next time she is biting you and your hand is in her mouth, turn her lower lip over her teeth (toward the back of her mouth) and give a pinch. They will often find that biting is not as pleasant as they thought.

Good luck!
6Girls wrote:
Some dogs get so excited they mouth everyone. Just try not to make a game out of it. If she bites and you tell her no or leave-it and she attempts to bite a second time, turn your back on her and leave. The gentle punishment is to be denied human attention.


Ignoring the sheepie until the bad behavior stops is really effective. He doesn't do it much anymore but when he was younger, Bailey would get really riled up. I would pick up a book, sit at the kitchen counter and ignore him completely. At the beginning it would take a while for him to calm down but eventually he realized that I wasn't going to acknowledge him AT ALL if he got nippy and once I "assumed my position" he'd just lay down at my feet.

He still gets nippy with my stepsons when he wants to play and I've tried telling them to get up and walk away but heaven forbid they get off the couch and abandon the TV! So for the moment, Bailey still nips to get them to play fetch and they go along with it, hence proving to Bailey and the family that they are far below him in pack status!
:lol: It's harder training the uprights sometimes isn't it! Been there... actually still there on some things.
6girls, I LOVE your new avatar :)
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