Aggressive during rough housing

I'm new here but would love some input. Big Ben is about 4 1/2 years old and typically is a great dog - super with our kids (6 and 8 years) as well as their friends, our cat and even strangers. We have a fun loving family and occasionally would have a "wrestling session", lots of giggling, rolling around, etc. Big Ben typically would watch and seemed to "participate" with loud barking (which we always stopped because we do not encourage him to bark inside the house.) He was usually responsive to our command to stop barking. Over the course of about a year he has gotten more aggressive with the barking and now is actually nipping/biting. We've learned to keep Big Ben away from the wrestling but unfortunately it has advanced to any contact we have with each other, even when we give each other hugs. This past weekend my husband and son were celebrating a Patriots touchdown and my son tackled his dad. Ben barked twice and all out bit my husband in the leg. We've elimated wrestling around Big Ben but certainly aren't going to stop showing affection to each other. Unfortunately he does not always behave this way and there isn't an opportunity for constant behavior modifications. Any suggestions? I'm sure it is all Ben's instinct to protect his family but we are very close to putting him up for adoption via a local OES rescue. Naturally we are very distraught about even having to consider it but are at a loss!
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Hello.....
I`m Vero, I have a 81/2 month old OES Pisco....I don`t have children of my own but my husband and I are very affectionate to each other and sometimes do have a game of wrestle....jijiiji he always wins ;) ....
but well....Pisco always starts barking or at the least whines .....he thinks we are getting hurt or are playing and letting him out of it....so as of sometime we started letting him in the play....he loves it ...that was it, he just needed to feel part of it.....maybe Big Ben has the same problem?
I Agree! - It seems with our Woof to come down pretty much to Wanting to join in (the Green Eyed monster certanly plays a part) and, with the wrestling thing, its an invitiation to play fight - just as the dog would with his siblings natuarally.

The solution? Its all about patience, patience, patience. Praising the good behavior and ignoring the bad (literally stepping away and/or putting dog in a serparated "chill out" area for a bit each time.

Best of luck

Mikey (currently nursing a scratch from elbow to wrist from a playtime that got too much) and the Woof (who's very sorry) :oops:
I agree .. I think he just wants to be part of your family. Everyone else is getting to play and get some, but not me???
You told him he cannot bark, he cannot play, so now he's going to biting.
Don't isolate him, he is already feeling left out of the pack.
In the canine world, being left out is the same as death. Whenever a wolf, coyote, or any canine is refused the right to take part in pack affairs they usually die.
If you do not trust the dog enough to let him join in, then you need to have some other outlet and show of affection available. Why not let him bark or tug on a rope with whomever is his main care giver. Whenever it seems he's getting to rough take him for a walk or go play fetch. At 4 and half year old you have too much invested to give up on the poor fellow.
If he knows ANY tricks, put him through his paces and bestow praise upon him. Never give him praises for nothing, make him part of the family doing his "thing". Act like you want him to bark and teach him the speak command.
I am not sure I am always happy about it, but Abbi wrestles with my 2 girls whenever she gets a chance. Lately she's been trying to get me to play with her dolls and balls, but I am so busy. So I keep making one of the girls go out and play with her. Now all of their friends come over to play with her too, and she seems much happier.
They get bored too you know. Your dog wants to be socialble, you just need to show him how he can be without alarming you.
By the way, where do you live in Houston? Southwest, NOrth, Clear Lake, Friendswood, Sugarland , ......
You are the first poster who may live less than 5 hours from me. Do you belong to the Houston chapter of the OES Rescure or anything? They have an office downtown I think.
Let us know how its going, and good luck. I hope you do not give up. Like your kids, these dogs can enrich your family life so much.
We let Jack and Annabelle in our roughhousing, but if they get too rough they get a time out. Which is just making them settle on their bed and chewing on a bone. Once they are calmed down we call them back in. Our kids are 3 and 6 so the main thing we have to worry about is their nails. That is the main reason anyone ever gets hurt.
Jack doesn't really bite but sometimes he will put his teeth on you but not shut his mouth. I haven't figured out why he does that.
I have noticed kids and dogs are a lot alike in the way of if a child or a dog is acting out there is usually a reason and if you just keep trying different things you will get it. :wink:
This might sound mean, but put a muzzle on him during that time. That might would teach him not to bite. It would be better than getting rid of a family member. :(
Thank you for all the great advice. I've also gotten a lot of great information in other subject posts so we are trying to work with Big Ben and make sure he knows he's not the top dog....which also could be an issue. Anyway, yesterday my husband gave my daughter a big hug - kind of picked her up when he did it and Ben gave out a little growl. I quickly told Ben to "sit" and petted him for listening. Instead of going back to growling he just laid down and wagged his "stump." All in all Dad is still not real thrilled about Ben's biting episode but hopefully that will pass. Big Ben is just a big goofy beast - and not always the sharpest tack - but we love him anyway.

We actually live on the NW side of Houston in Tomball. There is another OES in the next subdivision over which came as a shock to us when we moved to TX. (Our vet up north cautioned us we wouldn't find many OES' in the south let alone Houston.) He does just fine down here, he hates being outside so 24/7 air conditioning suits him just fine!
I was hoping you would be on the South side of Houston, darn! But my parents live up north of you about 30 minutes. They live in Montgomery. I live down in Agleton, about 45 miles south of AstroWorld and the upcoming SUPER BOWL.

Give your hubby a massage and tell him to relax. My 8 year old bit her sister the other day and I was ready to pull her teeth out, but I didn't. I just made her sit and read for a bit and had a talk with her. Then she said Abbi had bit her---about a year ago. And I asked about it, turned out they were playing and Angela pulled her arm out of Abbi's mouth while they were playing chase because Angela had Abbi's stuffed dog. These things happen with siblings and dogs. We just have to put a stop to it and re-direct.
Your husband isn't around and doesn't know the dog as well as the rest of the family probably. I know mine doesn't. So whenever he has a concern, I look into it. Then try to explain. If it takes more than 5 minutes, he's asleep. Poor lil work-aholic. We have photos of my husband sleeping at the table with Abbi licking his fingers.
And I went of topic again.
Good luck. Keep the dog busy and everyone will be happy. Guess he has a full coat then? Poor Abbi gets sheared (shorn?) every April, but I think she still looks fantastic! She likes the AC too. Right now the heater is at 69' F and she looks pretty happy. But the moisture is getting to me. Must be about 75% today, and that is inside. Better get to walking before I am a bent up old lady.
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