Re growing a shaved coat

Ok... Dancer has been shaved down twice, once at 7 months old and once at 16 months old. She is now 19 months old and has about 3.5 inches of coat, and it is matting again already. I have been grooming and keeping a constant watch on it, however because of her being in heat (so hormonal changes) and the humidity we've been dealing with I feel like I am fighting a losing battle. I keep getting them out, but her whole coat feels like it is growing in tightly weaved, not quite like felt, but her undercoat is like a cotton ball, and I am forever trying to pick it apart.
I just finished bushing her out, and though I've got the mats out, it feels like as soon as I bath her it will turn into a tight knotted mess. I'm going to use lots of detangler when I bath her, and comb while I bath, and then brush while I blow dry her and hopefully it will turn out alright.

What I would like to know is, has anyone been able to successfully re grow a full coat after their dog has been shaved down? Any ideas on how to make sure it grows out properly?

I think her undercoat is growing faster that the guard hair, and that may be a large part of the problem, so I am thinking of stripping out a small amount of undercoat, but I'm not sure how to strip out some without damaging the guard coat. I am planning on getting her in the ring if I can get her back into full coat, so I have to be very careful what I do to her coat.
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Just a suggestion, but as you line groom, have you tried spraying a leave in detangler/conditioner between the lines and brushing it through? Something very light that doesn't weight the hair down-- I've found high end human spray conditioners to work much better than dog stuff. Most of those are just too heavy. The conditioner lubricates the shaft and seems to transistion the growing process a little easier. Clyde's whole coat is transistioning so anything to make it easier, the better! I do it every few times that I groom Clyde and it's really helped keep his undercoat under control and his coat has been growing in very smooth-- I seldom ever have to pick anything apart other than the surface mats in the usual places.
I do use a spray in between lines, but it just doesn't seem to help at this stage, if anything it makes it worse because it gets it wet.
I just finished bathing her, and am letting some of the water soak into towels in her crate before I blow dry and brush again. I used lots of detangler (cowboy magic) during her bath and worked it in in the direction of her coat... so I hope it helped. I won't really know until I get brushing.
It's hard to describe, it's not that she is matted all over, or anywhere really, it's just that the hairs seem to insist on crossing and staying crossed?? I don't know if it makes any sense.
We've shaved all 4 down, the coats come back good as new. I think the high humidity is to blame for the matting. Daisy was totally shaved last Sunday and because she grows back so fast she's already got some growth :roll: I got some Cowboy Magic to try on Rosco, now all I need is some knock out drops so he stays still :lol: Until the heat and humidity go away we're fighting a losing battle.
Well, both dogs bathed, dried and brushed (Sky only has an inch of coat at most, but she gets jealous so she had to be brushed too LOL)
The cowboy magic did help, quite a bit I think. The only place I had a really tough time with was behind Dancer's ears. That area mats up so fast. This time instead of fighting with it I just got the scissors and trimmed a bit. To heck with it, it won't be noticeable by the time she gets in the ring anyway. :lol:
Willowsprite wrote:
I just finished bushing her out, and though I've got the mats out, it feels like as soon as I bath her it will turn into a tight knotted mess. I'm going to use lots of detangler when I bath her, and comb while I bath, and then brush while I blow dry her and hopefully it will turn out alright.

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Glad to hear the Cowboy Magic was helpful..

There is also another product called Show and Go
from the EZ All co. I spoke with a company rep,
who thought it would be an excellent product to use
while line brushing. We're going to give it a try,
the humidity is raising havoc here :evil:

(I may try it myself, my naturally curly hair is in
a large cottonball style~~so much for antifrizz products :( )


EZ All:

www.EZAll.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=33

Check on the special OES Amazon link to buy the products!! :D
Does the bathing often contribute to the matting? I ask only because from what I read hear it sounds like I bathe Tasker alot less than most (I'm lazy) He get's shaved down every spring and grows back to his "almost full coat" every winter. I am pretty vigilante about brushing and unless I neglect brushing don't have too much trouble with matting. I have to honestly say I only bathe him a few times a year :oops: unless there is an emergency. We do wash his butt and feet more often.
One of the issues with bathing and matts is if you use a scrubbing motion on top of the hair. By doing that you are causing knots that turn into matts.
The easiest way to fix this is to dilute shampoo in a sport bottle, and apply it to the wet dog that way. Then you'll need to squeeze the hair to distribute it throughout.
You can always put your fingers through the hair and down to the skin to scrub/exfoliate :lol: the skin but do small sections at a time or you run the risk of creating knots. Been there done that, no fun at all!
Combing through the shampoo/conditioner under running water seems to help some too. I find the shower head/hose attachment is a huge help for that.
I have Irish Setters and I know this works, from the inside out..

1 lb peanut butter
1lb honey
1 lb mirra coat
1pt Lixotonic vit.

mix it in a bowl put in frig. give 1 or 2 tps. a day. it works
Anne Pellette
Meadow run irish Setters
HAHAHAHA, I don't think I coulc keep Tasker from EATING HIMSELF with that mixture!!!!
It's a supplement they eat. (at least that's what I took it as?)
:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ROFLMA

I thought it was to be applied topically :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Guess I need to read a bit more carefully!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(haven't had much sleep this weekend)
Yes, that's basically the "grow hair on a doorknob" recipe, and I've heard it works very well. I want to try it but I haven't yet found mirra coat anywhere...
An old science fiction story told of a formula that would grow hair... and it worked until they discovered that it was also growing hair on the inside of the head as well.....
Bigreason5 wrote:
I have Irish Setters and I know this works, from the inside out..

1 lb peanut butter
1lb honey
1 lb mirra coat
1pt Lixotonic vit.

mix it in a bowl put in frig. give 1 or 2 tps. a day. it works
Anne Pellette
Meadow run irish Setters


Didn't Lucy Ricardo of "I Love Lucy" call that potion "Veeta-Vita-Vegimen?"
Hi... this could sound really silly, but I was having such trouble with Bing's coat and i have been told off from my vet for doing this, but if it works and he doesn't seem to have a reaction, i am more than happy to do it.

The is a Pantene conditioner that suposedly gets rid of 3months damage in 3 minutes.

What i generally do when i wash Bing (every 3 weeks) is thoroughly shampoo him with a a horse shampoo called glow white which brings his coat back to a bright white.

I then pour the Pantente (diluted a little so that you are able to spread through the hair) and gently brush out any knots. Let him sit for a couple of minutes then rinse out whilst combing the coat.

Since using this, I have found that Bings coat is so soft (everybody that sees him comments on how soft & fluffy he is) and i now can let the brushing go for 4-5 days where as before it was everyday otherwise i wouldn't be able to get the brush through his coat!!!

I know there are many of you out there that are probably cursing :twisted: me right now, saying a sheepies hair is not supposed to be soft and fluffy but i figure he's no show dog and i definately get no complaints from him!!!!
Willowsprite wrote:

What I would like to know is, has anyone been able to successfully re grow a full coat after their dog has been shaved down? Any ideas on how to make sure it grows out properly?



It was just too funny for me to see this thread pop up again... LOL

I did manage to grow out a coat after shaving!
The trick was brush it even if it doesn't look like it needs it yet (from the half inch stage to 2 inches) and then start line brushing after 2 inches or so... Also, a clean coat grows faster...
In case anyone else ever has the same question I just thought I would post my answer.
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