Does anybody have any experience with very serious Household Tick Infestations?
No, cancel that, you all would have spent thousands of Dollars having your homes rendered clean by pest experts, which is something akin to ... living on a different planet when you don't have six shirt buttons in your pocket to rub together.
So let me try something else ...
Does anybody on here have an unusually high understanding of the workings of the blood worm parasite injected into Sheepie by ticks, wrecking the dog's RBC resulting in a most revolting death for Sheepie from Chronic Anemia?
Better still, has anybody ever heard of anywhere on the website where you can ask questions of veterinary surgeons for Free !!!
Smile. Yes, of course by "Free" I realise I'm asking if anyone has found a five leaf clover, but everything is so desperate and I don't know which way to turn anymore.
|Yes I have had that problem. Lost my first sheepie to ticks several days before I joined this group.The best way I can tell is to get rid of the ticks,and the rest should be fine.|
A cry for help from the Depths of Desperation.
Does anybody have any experience with very serious Household Tick Infestations?
I had NO idea that tick were a big problem in Thailand!
There are many ways to kill ticks but I don't want to assume things that may be different between our countries.
Are you in a city, suburb, or rural/farmland?
What pets do you have?
Young (plays in dirt age) children around?
|Thank you for responding ... steveoes ... I was very sorry to read that you had your first Sheepie stolen from you by these Vile Monsters. So far I have lost 6 Old English Sheepdogs to ticks and am currently battling day and most of the night in a life or death struggle to hold onto the 9 (6 puppies) I have at the moment.|
"The best way I can tell is to get rid of the ticks,"
Yep, that is one hell of an idea, but with a single blood engorged female managing to avoid my murderous fingers, then you can count on another 3,000 to 6,000 duplicates of herself.
Never relax with this vile monster, search your dogs skin as often as you can always think ticks.
|Thank you ... Ron ... for taking the timer and trouble to respond to my post.|
"I had NO idea that tick were a big problem in Thailand!"
Yep, they are here and they are a huge problem, although local Thai dogs seem to be highly resilient to the blood worm that they carry and possibly other pathogens too. So within the Thai dog community it is just another seemingly minor annoyance. The same cannot be said for Sheepie who in my own experience has suffered badly from them.
Ticks can be a monumental problem anywhere, including your own house, if an egg laying female escapes, she will lay between 3,000 and 6,000 eggs depending upon various factors. When the time is right, those eggs will hatch and they are coming straight for your dog or dogs, you can already forget about the .... JOKE ... Frontline and various other wholly pathetic consumer products, that I have already had confirmed to me by their own Doctors to be "Wholly Useless" in the case of an infestation. The same applies to tick collars the ticks will simply attack the feet in DISGUSTING biting groups. You will try, you will lose, the mathematics are simply so heavily stacked against you, from the first attack how many females are going to escape you 6,7,8 ... 10 or 15 work the numbers.
This to the best of my knowledge can happen anywhere.
"There are many ways to kill ticks but I don't want to assume things that may be different between our countries."
I would question your use of "many" they are incredibly difficult to kill. One U.S. University is currently attempting to understand how they can breathe underwater. Early ideas seem to suggest that they may well have gills like fish.
This creature can sit without feeding for up to 18 months !!!
This is not any kind of a normal creature by any means.
Rubbing Alcohol takes them down, so does burning them, I'm using a tick powder which is pretty good, but like most commercial products it only seems to aim itself at the male tick somehow leaving the female unharmed. Disinfectant is said to rid them, though I have had precious little experience using that. There's a whole host of ... Essential Oils ... that seem to at least repel ticks I am not sure about killing them, but difficult to come by in Thailand.
Two places both rural.
In the Mother of all Battles at Death House I had 7 Old English Sheepdogs 4 fell to ticks, ticks eventually took complete control of the house and I had to strip a bedroom bare walls and barricade myself in there for 3 months, before we ran from the house 2 alive and one cradled in my arms at Death's door with a RBC red blood count of ... 16 ... shouldn't be lower than 160. Lola Jr II ... she made it, she pulled through, she's here today.
For those reading this finding it difficult to take on board what I am saying here, please take the time and trouble to pop yourself over to youtuube to watch a short 10 minute movie called "infested" where you will find that the might of the U.S. Navy could not shift this VILE FILTH.
When you see what these Monsters do to the dogs, the painful places they bite eyelids, lips, all around thee anus.
What I have seen will haunt me for life. I must have killed 1 million ticks.
I am currently in my 3rd battle with them. I lost the first fight heavily and badly due to total inexperience, I won the second fight, and I have been losing this the third fight, but largely due to a lack of money. The local Thai Tick powder really hits them hard. Which of course means its strong and highly toxic for the dogs, which I of course don't like.
My wife keeps a lot of cats, they are totally free from ticks. At Death House I bought her 6 Persian cats. Never had a tick on them. My dogs, up to 1,500 ticks everywhere on their body, 4 hours to clear, 3 days to get back into the same desperate state.
Just cats, no other livestock although there are chickens near to us.
Thank you for your questions, I am totally alone thank you for being out there.
Need people to talk to.
Desperately need help.
Need to get 3 adult Old English Sheepdogs out of here, can't leave them behind, they are part of me now.
Badly need help.
|What you are describing sounds more like a flea infestation than a tick infestation!|
|I was not aware that ticks can reproduce that quickly!|
|"What you are describing sounds more like a flea infestation than a tick infestation!"|
What an astonishing remark. With all due respect Ron what could possibly make you say such a thing ...? ...?
TICKS be sure, be VERY sure ticks. I have been fighting them on and off mostly on for 3 years now. I have spent hundreds of hours researching them on the internet hoping to find a chink in their armour, besides very hot weather and no rain to produce the humid conditions that their eggs prefer to hatch in, I don't think they have one. This is a Super Creature.
Rhipicephalus sanguineus ... No known Natural Predator, although one or two websites I have been to claim that the Guinea Fowl will eat them.
No, not fleas nothing whatsoever to do with fleas.
Thank you for reading my post.
I really do not have desire to frighten you out of your skin, but my own 3 year experience with ticks has been straight out of Hell.
They are staggering. This creature is simply unbelievable. I have just watched two darling 2 month Old English Sheepdog Puppies die in my arms today from Chronic Anemia.
The time period from six-legged larva, through to 8 legged egg laying ... Time Bomb ... Adult can be as little as 1 month when the surrounding area is ideal for them.
The Brown Dog Tick is wholly unique as it is the only tick that can set up a population inside of your home.
I would not run out and purchase Front Line or any other Toxic commercial products. I would just try and afford your Sheepie ... just a little more time running your hands through her/him, getting your finger tips right down to the skin particularly around the neck, throat, ears, eyes, right down to the nose, side of the face pay particular attention to their feet, between their toes, get your fingers right into their pads too and make an inpsection of the anus too, that should be fun.
I now have lost with 2 dead today 8 Old English Sheepdogs in 2 locations in 2.5 years all young dogs.
This Wretched Legion of the Damned have not only stolen the lives of my dogs they have also wrecked my life too.
Excellent 2 hour movie on youtube called "The Real Vampires"
Should be watched. Needs to be watched.
I'm sorry, I've been trying to get some of you to visit youtube to watch a video called "infested" well the way things work at youtube is that you will be directed towards what youtube wants you to see which may not be the same thing.
So I have just hunted down the link and here it is
I pasted that into my address bar and it worked. So hope it will be ok for you.
|Again sorry, the two hour video is 1 hour, sorry memory failing, too many tick bites, needs to be searched under "Ticks The Real Vampires" Or can be seen here.|
|My guess is several applications throughout the house of the least expensive permethrin you can find will kill the ticks eventually. You can speed up the process by going after multiple life cycle stages at once. For example:|
http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/perme ... q-445.html
But some of the other insecticides such as Nyguard are expensive
|I would use whatever is available to cut the numbers at least. There is no way in hell I would allow my pets or loved ones to suffer let alone die in that kind of environment. |
I am sorry you are in this situation. If you cannot change it maybe consider moving your dogs and cats to another safer location? Your pets are clearly suffering. There must be some kind of pest control somewhere in your region. I would do anything necessary to afford that help. I would be using frontline or ANY product toxic or not- on my dogs to get rid of the ticks. Far preferable to pets dying imho.
|A big thank you Ron I appreciate your attempt to help. "Permethrin" is interesting as I have seen others using this in relation to killing ticks. Everything is so entirely wretched and so damn difficult. My life collapsed 2 years ago, and I have not yet been able to haul myself out of the crater into which I fell. By an entirely unique set of circumstances I am entirely alone on this planet with nobody to turn to.|
Permethrin would firstly be difficult to find. I am trapped in the middle of nowhere, tiny little farming community the parents house of what has now become my evil Thai wife. I would not have the money to purchase it I couldn't purchase it in Thailand and I most certainly could not purchase it online. I make a very small amount of money each month through being able to edit video and also I am able to rearrange and completely change digital photographs, I can remove things or add things etc. On average I am making something like 70 or 80 usd a month. As much money as possible has to be reserved to purchase food for Sheepie I now have 3 adults and the remaining 4 puppies, though I fear another 2 will go soon, they seem overly fatigued and their gums are not as pink as they should be, both initial signs that the levels of blood worms inside of them is so high that their RBC is falling. Well obviously we are in a tick environment here.
Well there it is no money.
But the good news is Ron I've managed to get my hands on a couple of tumblers of tick powder. This Thai tick powder really hammers the ticks. It's a worry, it must be so strong to be so effective, however, at this desperate point in time, you just have to reach for whatever is available.
The cost $2 yes just two dollars a tumbler. Last month I was so busy with the dogs giving birth two litters 13 pups and so ... so ... SO tied up with Babeera ... she couldn't nurse that I was unable to even get anywhere near the computer. I earned no money Ron, I had no money. There was no money for food, the babies were taken care of by their Mothers but there was no food for the 3 adults.
My wife had money, enough money to feed the dogs and purchase the tick powder to ensure that everybody could live through what has proven to be a quite lightweight wave of ticks (compared to Death House) you see because I love these dogs with my entire heart and soul, they are more important to me than I am to myself, my wife has decided to abandon the dogs in the same way she has decided to wash her hands of me. To try to hurt me, by neglecting them. Thus, just about being able to beg her for enough money to feed the 3 adults, there was no money for tick powder. The ticks were able to get a real foothold on the puppies. With myself now back at the computer trying desperately to earn some money for this month and my wife refusing to help in any way shape or form, far too many blood worms were allowed to get into the puppies by the ticks remaining on the puppies for too long before I once more gave up work and started the daily regime of trying to clear ticks off the puppies. Still at this stage my wife refused to purchase the $2 tick powder. Only when Prince and Domino died the first two deaths did she go and purchase 1 ... ... ONE ... ... tumbler of tick powder. I had some 120 usd arriving on the 21st of last month and I was in countdown the days to when I could lay my hands on this money and get to the nearest supermarket ... 50 kilo round trip ... to make the investment of 6 tumblers of tick power ... then I would have had some fun, Agincourt ... all over again.
But the 1 tumbler was enough to knock the ticks right out of their stride. This stuff is so strong.
Of course the best made plans of mice and men. When my money arrived I flew off on the motorcycle across the rice fields no tax on the motorcycle, to fetch my Arsenal !!!
The supermarket only had 2 tumblers. This Thailand's No 1 supermarket Lotus Tesco.
"Do you have anymore? I've come 50 kilo for this"
"No, all finished"
"When will you have some more?"
"I don't know"
This is Thailand.
Maybe she was just too damn lazy to go out the back and look.
I told my wife about this.
Today my wife went to the supermarket to buy things for herself.
Good so I can check because the same supermarket in the opposite direction is 70 kilo roundtrip.
"Did you see today if Tesco has got any powder"
"Did you see today if Tesco has got any powder"
stay calm think of the dogs.
"The tick powder for the dogs"
"I don't know I didn't look"
you Evil bitch.
Now, I have to make the 70 kilo journey, Ron, I have lived with cataracts on both eyes for 3 years, a result of using a steroid cream for Psoriasis, I have been a lifelong sufferer.
I am visually impaired I shouldn't even be on a motorcycle it is so dangerous, I don't see things until they are on top of me, I have vision of about 10 to 20 metres.
This will not be across rice fields either. This will be down a 4 lane busy carriageway.
Of course I am scared stiff about making this journey. But I will make it, I have no choice. The dogs are simply too important.
It's difficult Ron, it is very difficult.
Thank you for responding to me.
"I would use whatever is available to cut the numbers at least."
I agree with you 100 pct, whatever long term damage that might be done, it is entirely irrelevant if the dog is facing an imminent death.
Plain common sense.
We live upon different planets Shellie, the bottom fell out of my life 2 years ago, I've just written a book to Ron there is lots more information contained in there about me not that I can see any reason why you should be interested, we are all responsible for where we are.
I have just been through a period of not having any money to purchase anything.
I have now managed to get my hands on some local Thai Tick powder at just $2 a tumbler.
It must be so strong and so toxic as the ticks fill the dogs hair ... DEAD
It is the most wonderful sight to behold Shellie.
Trouble is, I need more and the damn supermarket has run out.
"There is no way in hell I would allow my pets or loved ones to suffer let alone die in that kind of environment."
To watch them die cradled in your arms, helpless nothing you can do.
You can have no idea of the pain Shelie ... No Idea. Absolutely No Idea.
Your life is comfortable and I hope dearly it remains that way for you.
"I am sorry you are in this situation."
Thank you very much. I am sorry I have failed the dogs. It has not always been this way, we had the most beautiful glorious 12 months together at Death House I have 90 videos of them on youtube.
everything was just Playtime and Happiness ...
... and then the ticks came.
My circumstances are very unique. No family left or friends. I am alone. It is difficult. Very difficult.
"If you cannot change it maybe consider moving your dogs and cats to another safer location?"
Yes, that would be an immediate help. A good idea.
Death House is situated in Pattaya in the South. Can you believe that ticks took control of my house? When 9 month old Lulu Vomited blood for the second time as her Kidneys failed, lack of Oxygen, Chronic Anemia, at the Veterinary Surgeon's Clinic, with a Red Blood Count of ... 10 ... should never drop below 160, while the Dr was telephoning around attempting to find blood for a total blood transfusion ... Lulu died amongst her vomit upon Christmas Day 2016 upon my return home I removed everything from one of the bedrooms, just bare walls no bed, no clothes, no furniture ... no nothing ... and barricaded ourselves in. No dog was allowed outside of the room for longer than 10 minutes. We lived like this for 3 months
I had lost control of the house Shellie, see the video link, infested, there is a family here with the same story, only their story was much worse than me.
I ran with 2 surviving adults and 1 adult in my arms at Death's Door with a Red Blood Count of just ... 16 ... should never drop below 160. I ran leaving a good 50 pct of my possessions behind, nothing mattered ... only saving Lola Jr II mattered, the sick 9 month Sheepie, she was so terribly sick and had already stopped eating ... gums A4 paper White ... Death White, no Oxygen carrying hemoglobin left the sign that all of her Vital Organs were beginning to close down.
Only Milk saved her. She is here today Bubbly Bouncy and has just given birth.
We came here, to the parents of my Thai wife.
If I could run again I would run, how I would love to run with Sheepie, with the wind in our hair.
Running requires money. A place to go. I have no money. There is nowhere I can go.
But I do need Tick powder, with Tick Powder I can save most of them, I feel confident that I can save Blueberry, Lala and Lola Jr II ... all survivors of Death House. We have history, we have been through so much together. Luckily, somehow the ticks have been seemingly targeting the puppies, curious how a creature with no eyes can perfect its attack so meticulously.
No I shall have to stand and fight.
"There must be some kind of pest control somewhere in your region."
Yes, there will be in the nearest city. 100 kilo from here.
I wouldn't go this way even if I had money. See the 2 minute infested video. The link is above. The Might of the U.S. Navy could not shift these monsters.
Watch the video link it is just 2 minutes.
"I would do anything necessary to afford that help."
So would I. Including emptying my bank account ... But nothing is possible. I am alone and my bank account is empty.
"I would be using frontline "
Then you would be wasting your time.
Frontline is a ... Joke.
... and not a very funny one.
Look, you obviously do not know about Frontline, so let me afford you my own experience.
If you like to take Rover to the park twice a week and each time you come home you find ... 3 ticks ... on him, then the best thing you can do is rush out and purchase Frontline because that is what Frontline does it protects your dog against 3 ticks ...
If however, you are in a situation with considerably more than 3 ticks ... do yourself and especially your dog a HUGE favour ... throw Frontline in the trash can.
Thank you Shellie I know you are thinking hard how to help, I really appreciate that.
|Quick note to Ron, actually you should watch the 2 minute video link ... infested ... The U.S. Navy went into a house ... spraying ... |
When the family returned see the wife go on video stating
"it was actually worse than when we left"
|ok - you are a victim here. I get it- I got it before your last post. |
We live with our choices no matter what side of the world we live on. Good luck
|I could be wrong, but I believe Thailand is using permethrin in spraying for mosquitoes to prevent malaria. I don't know if that gives you any ideas on ways you might acquire it.|
There is permethrin embedded in many mosquito bed nets, if you could get such a bed net it might be useful against the ticks.
|Thank you Shellie.|
"... ok - you are a victim here. I get it- ..."
Sorry, I don't believe you do get it Shellie.
It is not I that is the victim. I can walk away from this any moment I so choose, money or no money I can get repatriated.
It is not me who is the victim ... it is the dogs who are the victims.
Good Luck to you too.
|Thank you Ron, well that is fascinating, yes we occasionally see, very occasionally I might add, like two or three times in the past 5 years a guy walking around blowing out huge gusts of white smoke. You've got to feel sorry for the guy doing this job his only protection is a 50 cent cotton disposable mouth mask.|
My guess is the U.S. Navy went into the house in Japan spraying this stuff ... didn't work see the video above.
At the present moment every single cent has to be accounted for. So even taking a bus ride to the major city here to try and source this stuff that money used on the bus could have bought food for Sheepie. I'm going to run short of money this month too, I just can't make enough money to feed everyone.
It just amazes me how wicked my wife can be.
Here there dogs dying all around her and she knows I desperately need the tick powder, she went to the supermarket, but she "didn't look"
Astonishing, pure wickedness to try and cause me further pain and suffering.
I set out today to make the 70 kilo journey to the same Tesco supermarket in the other direction, but the local grocery store that doubles up as a filling station with one fuel pump was closed.
I'm going to try again tomorrow. I'm very worried about this journey with my terribly blurred eyesight, but nothing is going to stop me.
... Well actually the Police might !
Thank you Ron.
|"It is not me who is the victim ... it is the dogs who are the victims."|
"It is not me who is the victim ... it is the dogs who are the victims."
|Well then Shellie if you had any idea of the plot here, which you don't, you wouldn't have posted this.|
"ok - you are a victim here. I get it- I got it before your last post."
"ok - you are a victim here"
Where do you mention the dogs being the victims?
Shellie I am very happy that your life is so comfortable and that you never make mistakes with the choices that you make ... but just keep in mind one thing Dearest
... you will never know what life has got in store for you just around the next corner or when you too might need the help of another human being.
|I made it.|
I made the 70 kilo journey today, heart in my mouth with my blurry eyesight and felt so much joy to see 4 tumblers of tick powder on the shelf before me, my fear being that as one store had run out this the same brand store might have run out too. I purchased 3. I'm sitting here with about $8 now that has to get me through to the 21st I have stocked up with a fair bit of food for them but it will never be enough.
So it will be back to trying to beg for money from the wife.
What the hell, i've got tick powder ... life goes on, I hope.
Well looking at the posting dates on here it does look as though the website is going through pretty bare times, almost as little interest in posting anything new on here as in the breed itself. That is a shame. Truly cannot understand the love and admiration people once had The Old English Sheepdog once upon a time and the way the breed is struggling now ... all because of grooming.
Ron is running around doing his bit trying to breathe a bit of life into the site, but while you get nasty snipey little comments, hardly any surprise nobody bothers coming on here now.
Woof Woof Sheepie Rules !!
|Oh well you assume too much. |
I have been through many things in my life. Some of them horrible.
I never live in fear of bad things happening because I choose not to allow the world around me to dictate my life - in other words I choose not to be the victim. I will do anything I have to do to overcome my situation. Even more so when my children or loved ones (dogs) are involved.
I don't especially feel the need to further explain myself or what I personally have been through. But my life has not been perfect or easy. But I am a very strong person. I hope you don't have to endure my past.
It seems to me you came here for help but have made excuses instead of starting to resolve your problems. I do hope you find a solution.
|I have to agree with Shellie, this is a very sad situation but many of us have been in them- not to belittle your situation sheepieone. People on here have read your comments about how bad your life is and it does indeed seem like a "hell hole" but please don't treat us like we are all idiots. I can't help thinking that maybe if you knew that you were in an "unstable" marriage with not much money then it wasn't a good idea to breed your dogs-unless it was to make money from them which has back fired big time!! Maybe you have relatives in England, USA or wherever that can help you? I do hope so for the poor dogs sake.x|
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