thinking about getting OES No. 7
I have heard that there are some smaller dogs being bred but unable to document that- maybe only hearsay. If anyone knows of a breeder of small or miniature OES we would be sincerely interested in getting in touch with that person for a future purchase. Thanks in advance. Jay Helt jayhelt@att.net |
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I don't know of any miniature OES, but my second favorite breed is the Havanese.  They are about the size of a Shih-Tzu, but have a goofy personality a lot like our sheepies. They are also called velcro dogs. You might want to look into that breed. The one major caution I've seen is grooming, but for someone who's used to the maintenance of a sheepie, it should be a breeze.  Our Sam may very well have a little Havanese brother or sister sometime in the future.  Good luck on your search!  |
I hear ya! DH is almost 80, uses a cane, you know who handles Phat Butt Kdog......and I'm close to a cane myself. Life without OES, painful to contemplate. Havanese or Coton if they weren't so darn expensive. Beardie is out as they are shaggy boxcars with loads of energy. I've even considered........ah.......ah......GoldenDoodle  I've seen some down around 45 lbs and if left in longer hair could be shaggy enough. Anything smaller and someone, me, has to bend over to pet, etc. If you want low and slow and hairy, Peke.  If it wasn't for that pug face. How about a Lhasa or Shih Tzu--plenty of hair, funny face though. |
| Didn't someone on the board have Tibetan Terriers? I remember they kinda looked like small OESes. Don't know what their personalities are like. You might be able to find a smaller OES. My Zeke is 24" at the shoulders and weighs about 63-64 lb. He's pretty small for a male. |
| Hi, what an interesting thread. My husband and I have discussed this also. The Portuguese water dog looks inviting to us, and our favorite neighborhood dog is a Shaggy parti colored medium size labradoodle. Our Charm is a Shaggeybark girl, and weighs in at 63 lbs. (she would like to weigh much more though  ) The breeder said that her "girls weigh between 60-65 lbs" at maturity. Uncertain about the males. Their webpage is shaggeybarkoes.com Good luck in your search. I'll be interested to see what you choose, sadly, we are all going down this path eventually. |
| I also have a Shaggeybark OES....actually 2 now, both males. My boy Bea weighs in at 68 (kind of small for a boy) but his dad is well over 95 pounds. Guess he takes after his mom. I now have his son Gunner who at 5 months is 48 pounds. The breeder's girls are on the more petite size and just absolutely lovely. I guess it all depends on what is considered too big for this couple to want to handle. I think as long as the pup grows up and is trained to be well behaved and well mannered, then the size itself should not be too much of a problem. I have seen way too many small dogs that were more work and more of a pain to handle than some of the larger well mannered dogs. As I, too, am getting up there in age, I have thought about this also. I have always had large dogs and kinda like the idea of not having to bend down to pat them on their head or put on their collar or leash or even to give them a treat. In have decided to stick with the bigger guys as long as I can. Best wishes to all. |
auntybren wrote: sadly, we are all going down this path eventually. Yes.  I have trouble with the lifting of my gigantic boy already. It is the grooming part that actually bothers me. I run agility with several women in their 70's and do obedience with older women with big dogs. If trained well I can probably handle the dog. But I worry about lifting a senior dog when they get old and as stated before the grooming can be tough on my shoulders and neck.I do know someone who has a Tibetan Terrier. He is a bundle of energy which goes with the Terrier territory. But then again I notice that with most of the herding breeds as well. At least a Tibetan Terrier can be picked up. |
| Another thing you might want to think about... Training them to load themselves. I deal with 1200 lb horses and easy loading is a must. I have worked with someone trained in the patella method which is basically cues to get an animal to move how you want. That may be a steal forward, back etc. I have a ramp load trailer and I know they make ramps for cars and older dogs. Why not teach a young pup how to load into a car etc with a ramp? They teach dogs all sorts of tasks as young pups. I too am in the hunt for a puppy and the breeder is going to pick a submissive pup to blend with an older dog. |
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