peeing in the house?

My oes pup is 20 weeks old. He had a traumatic experience at petsmart on Sunday. He has been acting ok, but tonight when I came home, he peed twice in 3 hours in the house. Jessy has no had any accidents in 8 weeks. Now 2 in 3 hours? Do you think I should take him for a urine test? Might it be from the short haircut he received and is acting out. At this age, I heard they can regress, but he is walked every 4 hours, and is able to hol his urine all the time. Please advise.
Thank you,
Ellen, Jessy and Ozzie
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Hello. It never hurts (apart from your purse!) to take to vet for check up-taking urine pot with you for testing. Could just be a behaviour thing-after attention. Just be firm and keep eye on and if you can catch him in the act you pick up and take outside quick telling him that is the right place-not indoors. All my sheepies have "tried it on" with the potty training bit=every evening Sprocket would wander up the hall at about 8 pm and we knew what was going on so took him out side with lots of praise before he did the deed so to speak. xx :wag: :tea:
Thank you for your advise. Took him to the vet this am. Gave him a fecal and urine. The dipstick showed no blood or white cells, the urinanalysis will be back Friday. The culture/sensitivity will be back Tuesday. Vet tends to think it's behavioral. It has happened only when I return home from work at night. [I work 8 hr shifts as a nurse] Jessy is walked every 4 hours. I walk him at 8a, go to the park at 10a, walked again at 2p, walked at 5p, walked at 9p and last when I come home at 12 midnight. He certainly has enough walks for his age [20 weeks]. As I said before, he has not peed in the house for 8 weeks., and it is happening when I come home after his last walk. So I will wait and what the labs show..... Is it true ....that at this age OES pups regress and start the peeing thing again???????Good Grief!!!!!!
Thank you for answering so soon.
Ellen, Jessy and Ozzie
Oh yes, just when you think you are winning they go and do a "naughty" thing-pee, chew. Keep calm and be paitiant (can't spell that) and you will win- You must win or pup will rule your life-just keep eye and take out the back when you thing the pee will be done-try to break the habit. Don't panic. If lab tests all ok you just have to be very vigilant. xx
This is certainly not a breed specific thing in case that is what you were thinking. Most
things are not breed specific. There may be tendancies in some things but to blame it
on breed is a mistake.
Your puppy is 20 weeks, about 5 months? It is not at all uncommon for puppies at that
age to be having accidents in the house and many are not trust worthy to hold it even
at a year, and some even older.
Your puppy is a bit young to be going through a rebellion stage but I suppose it is possible.
The trauma you mentioned - was that from the grooming you wrote about before? It is very
often our reaction and our handling of a situation that makes the pup feel off kilter. Your
pup probably doesn't understand anything beyond how you react. My point is - it may be more
your trauma than the dogs. Try to stay calm and do "business as usual" for your pup till
all this evens out. You have many stages to go through before your pup is mature and
this may not turn out to be a big event in the bigger picture.
Accidents happen and I wouldn't be too quick to be alarmed. It's possible there is a uti, but
he is also only 5 months old.

Good luck
Shellie
I totally agree with Shellie. Your reaction to a bad situation can be affect the dog's behavior but he probably isn't holding the Petsmart incident against anyone. Puppies do go through stages where they do their housetraining thing perfectly and then suddenly they start making messes in the house again. OES are large dogs and people think that when they are five months old they are full-grown when in fact their bodily functions quite fully under control. My male puppies have always been harder to housebreak than my only female.

If you're not crate training, you may want to consider it. Dogs really don't want to sit in their own waste so they learn to hold it while crated. Raising a puppy can be great fun but can be a lot of work and frustration, too. Hang in there, it really does get better.
I wanted to reply yesterday but didn't have time, sorry. Steel is close in age to Jessy so I may be able to calm you a little and ease your worries. First, I don't have a groomer yet. So far I have been doing it all on my own. I have 3 dogs. Had a horrible experience with a groomer and my Miniature Australian Labradoodle. I know how that feels. Please try this......even though you may want to find out where that person lives and punch their teeth out and shave their head bald - imagine for a moment that Jessy may have spent 3 of those 4 hours just hanging out in a crate next to bro/sis (sorry I can't remember) waiting his turn. Jessy probably napped the whole time till the lovely bath came. Maybe Jessy even feels all spring chicken like with no hair hanging all over the place?! See what I'm doing here? If you can just try to reverse the way you really feel Jessy will feed off of that instead of your negativity and that will help. Everyone in my house walked around for 2 months telling Sonny how much they loved him and how ugly he looked "naked" in a high pitched voice so he wouldn't know the difference! Second, I posted about the why did my no p in the house puppy just stare me in the face and p in the house TWICE?! Steel wasn't coming off a "trauma" he was just being a brat but just as you did I analyzed the situation. I analyzed it to death and then asked my life savers on here and went right to the vet at record speed and no - no UTI. He was also dribble p'ing outside. He does that because he does that and Steel is a brat sometimes. I'm learning that my puppy's personality is ever changing. Jessy's will do the same I am sure and call the haircut what you will, I'm sure he was a/effected somehow and if it wasn't that or your reaction to it, it was something else or maybe not maybe he just didn't get all of his potty out on the previous walk. Maybe he does have a UTI. I have lowered my guard from when Steel was 9 weeks old, he doesn't go out every 15min anymore. I'm sure you have done the same. You have most likely stopped looking so closely for the cues as I have - they are still there! Steel just nailed me last night which is where I was headed. I was busy, wasn't worried about him going potty in the house, he doesn't do that. I fed him, was packing my daughter's dance bag and he started to p while running for the door. I yelled and he stopped mid stride but it was hard for him as he had to go and had already held it for as long as he could. Hmmm, who's fault is that? MINE! I missed it! Wasn't paying attention, sounds gross but I was waiting for his poo to build up. He poo's 15 min after he eats and I had to leave 20 min. after so in my head I had it figured out but whoops he had to p! No more with the brat behavior, that was an adjustment to the kids leaving for school I think. Whew, sorry for the novel...I guess I was just trying to get you to not worry so much (easier said than done) and see that your puppy may just be changing as opposed to having something wrong.
Morning- how is the little terror today? hope you have managed to catch him in time so all pottying has been outside. I am sure they do it on purpose just to keep us owners on our feet!! The above is what I was trying to say-just "go with the flow" and tell him no if catch doing and get him outside saying how good he is if manages to finish off in garden. We still find ourselves praising for "going" It's a cas :wag: e of "do good boys for mummy" he does and then it's "oh, good boy" and a kiss on the nose-his favourite bit.xx :wag: :tea: :clappurple:
Jessy does have a UTI. Strep came back in the culture. He is presently on meds. Even though I know it happens,Jessy had not peed in the house for 9 weeks. Then he started having accidents daily 1 x a day. This was not like him. Glad I took him for the ua and c/s
Ellen ,Jessy and Ozzie
That's good to hear you have meds for him-hope clears up quick and that's an end to it .xx
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