Rams Farm?

Wondering if anyone has had any experience with them? They are in Maine.
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While I don't know anything about this Rams Farm breeder I am a bit suspicious.
I quickly checked out the website and one of the first things I saw was a big banner
saying something like - if you don't get breeding rights with your purchase they probably
aren't quality dogs. Something to that effect. That doesn't sound like reputable breeding to me.
I left just after I read that... Again- I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS BREEDER.
My suggestion is to start with the breed club site:
http://www.oldenglishsheepdogclubofamerica.org/
This may give you a good starting point. It's at least worth a try.
There is gobs of info on that site (and ours - search the index) about what to look for.

Good luck in your search.
Shellie
Be very wary of a breeder that offers no refunds on your deposit. What if the breeding doesn't take or they don't have a puppy for you? If a breeder is proud of their "Champion Bloodlines" it would seem logical that they would specify what Champion dogs are actually in their lines. But they don't. Also, there's nothing about OFA testing of any kind.

Most good breeders want control of breeding rights to continually better the breed. That's why so many of us have co-owners on our puppies. Allowing just any puppy buyer that the right allows them to make very poor decisions in producing litters. Definitely not in the best interest of the breed to leave this in the hands of amateurs. It's actually a very bad reflection on the person who sold the animal that will eventually be bred, contrary to what this web site states.
Although I know nothing about this breeder, I will speak of a lady who received an OES pup from Maine around the same time I received my Charlie. I paid considerably more for my puppy than she did. However, I had much better documentation with my pup and much better health screening. They were also actively involved in the showing of OES.
The difference in the two dogs is night and day. Ours is laid back, easy to train, and happy go lucky. Our friends is known in the neighborhood as "psycho dog". He is hyper, has bit their children twice and is uncontrollable. While I believe some of this has to do with training, I don't think you can underestimate the importance of responsible breeding. We are now looking at getting a second OES. Again, I will pay substantially more and wait for my breeder to have their next litter. I know I will be getting a puppy of sound temperament which is peace of mind for me and my family.
charliesmom wrote:
Although I know nothing about this breeder, I will speak of a lady who received an OES pup from Maine around the same time I received my Charlie. I paid considerably more for my puppy than she did. However, I had much better documentation with my pup and much better health screening. They were also actively involved in the showing of OES.
The difference in the two dogs is night and day. Ours is laid back, easy to train, and happy go lucky. Our friends is known in the neighborhood as "psycho dog". He is hyper, has bit their children twice and is uncontrollable. While I believe some of this has to do with training, I don't think you can underestimate the importance of responsible breeding. We are now looking at getting a second OES. Again, I will pay substantially more and wait for my breeder to have their next litter. I know I will be getting a puppy of sound temperament which is peace of mind for me and my family.



Words of wisdom....I feel the exact same way!!!!!!
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I can tell you this breeder cares more about the puppies they let others remover from their home than most people care about their own kids. They are top notch.
We have an old English bought from the son who bred the daughter with his mother, father from Ram’s Farm. The dog has bitten me several times,once with eighteen stitches in one finger. I called the son for information on the breeding history with no response. Then I called the mother at Ram’ Farm who I now realize, she was waiting for my call. When I asked her about the past history of their breeding line, she yelled back we were too old to buy their dogs and we probably beat the dog all the time!! On the contrary. This dog has only the best, including his own shower and much,much more. Why do we still have him? He is our last dog as we are getting on in age, and he is a good dog asl long as we recognize if something is wrong He usually warns us with a growl. We don’t want him near children and keep in a underground electric fence with lots of running room. We groom him ourselves every two weeks and he has no idea what mats are. We also knew what we were getting into, as we had an old English before, when our children were young . My final advise is do homework before buying .
They've been in business a very very long time.

I believe my first rescue dog came from there, whelped in October 1989 if I remember correctly.

Re-reading some.posts, it may have been my second rescue, whonsohld have been whelped in October of 2002. I think.
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