Bit of bother with the pup and can't seem to sort it?
He is starting to act up. He was born 2nd Sept 2012 so is now 7 months. He sucked all the fur off gizzy our miniture Schnouzer while we were away fro just 48hrs. He also hurt him with rough play so i had to part them a while. Since then the Pup is crying in the evenings and seems to be doing it for attention but if I ignor the cry he wets himself and or poos! - I started to bring his feed time back a few hours because he started needing to go poos at 2 am! Not good news. DH ( dear hubby) thinks he isn;t getting enough to eat? But I thought he was getting too much. He seems to be pooing quite a lot. He gets two feeds a day at the moment but I was hoping to get it down to one soon. He is fed at about 8-9 am and again at about 5pm. He is on adult food now - it is dry food chicken and rice mix. Same as my last OES was on. Not sure what else to say other than I am fed up with the whinning and that I can;t relax and that if I ignor the noise as some have said he DOES want to go poo or pee and I miss it and end up with a big mess. I don;t want to go down the road of seperation angsiaty either? Oes |
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| Personally, I think one feeding time isn't enough. We've always fed ours twice daily. How much exercise/playtime does he get with each member of the family? I know that pent up energy can cause major issues. So can not getting attention from the person/(s) he wants it from. A dog his age needs a lot of one on one time to develop mentally. And a mentally stable dog is everyone's goal. Just trying to help out. Vance |
| Sounds like a challenging situation. We fed ours 3 times a day until he was about 6 or 7 months old and then moved to 2 times a day. We usually feed them at 8am and again at 5pm as they aren't grazers and wolf it all down right away. Sometimes I will feed them earlier as I don't want them to feel hungry. If I am cooking they may get a healthy treat like kale, a carrot, squash or a piece of salmon or chicken some time in between breakfast and supper. Puppies poop a lot, even when they are 10 months old (that's how old mine is) he still will go three times during a walk sometimes. My dog park friends laugh about it as I always have to have a roll of bags with me! It's just how their growing bodies work I guess. If it makes you feel any better Leonard is slowing down in that department. We still try to let him out at least once an hour when we are home. He hasn't had an accident in a while but all of them develop at different rates. Our sheepie is pretty low key as long as he can lie on somebody's feet but our other dog loves to whine, howl and "talk" constantly. Sometimes it seems he just wants to talk and other times it seems like he is anxious. When we first got him he had lots of issues so we took him to a doggy behaviour expert recommended by somebody who works with rescue dogs, she gave us some good strategies that really seemed to work- When Ru is anxious we: -play fetch, even in our tiny back yard. He doesn't understand fetch so much but will chase after whatever you throw then run around with it for a bit before our Sheepie steals it from him and brings it back to us. Giving him a "job" to do works well. -going for a walk (even when it is -25C and dark our... downside to owning a dog in Winnipeg!) -"find it" (hide a treat and have him look for it") Ru likes to search for things. -giving him a good SAFE chew toy /treat, some dogs release tension through their jaws hence destructive chewing... Ru is a chewer for sure! -giving him a really long brushing (even if he doesn't need it) or fully body scratch calms him down every time. She said applying gentle pressure all over in the form of slow pats will help (like a massage would for a person). It puts him right to sleep. Have you tried anti chew on Giz? I know my friend got some from the vet for her dog's paws because the dog was an obsessive licker and wouldn't leave his paws alone! I don't know if this is an option to use on one dog to prevent the other from licking it... your vet would know though. Hope some of this will help! Every puppy is different; my sheepdog has decided he is the top dog, he has surpassed poor Ru (because Ru is so nervous I guess). He prances about the house like he built the place. Entertaining to watch them interact! |
bruuruu wrote: Sounds like a challenging situation. We fed ours 3 times a day until he was about 6 or 7 months old and then moved to 2 times a day. We usually feed them at 8am and again at 5pm as they aren't grazers and wolf it all down right away. Sometimes I will feed them earlier as I don't want them to feel hungry. If I am cooking they may get a healthy treat like kale, a carrot, squash or a piece of salmon or chicken some time in between breakfast and supper. Puppies poop a lot, even when they are 10 months old (that's how old mine is) he still will go three times during a walk sometimes. My dog park friends laugh about it as I always have to have a roll of bags with me! It's just how their growing bodies work I guess. If it makes you feel any better Leonard is slowing down in that department. We still try to let him out at least once an hour when we are home. He hasn't had an accident in a while but all of them develop at different rates. Our sheepie is pretty low key as long as he can lie on somebody's feet but our other dog loves to whine, howl and "talk" constantly. Sometimes it seems he just wants to talk and other times it seems like he is anxious. When we first got him he had lots of issues so we took him to a doggy behaviour expert recommended by somebody who works with rescue dogs, she gave us some good strategies that really seemed to work- When Ru is anxious we: -play fetch, even in our tiny back yard. He doesn't understand fetch so much but will chase after whatever you throw then run around with it for a bit before our Sheepie steals it from him and brings it back to us. Giving him a "job" to do works well. -going for a walk (even when it is -25C and dark our... downside to owning a dog in Winnipeg!) -"find it" (hide a treat and have him look for it") Ru likes to search for things. -giving him a good SAFE chew toy /treat, some dogs release tension through their jaws hence destructive chewing... Ru is a chewer for sure! -giving him a really long brushing (even if he doesn't need it) or fully body scratch calms him down every time. She said applying gentle pressure all over in the form of slow pats will help (like a massage would for a person). It puts him right to sleep. Have you tried anti chew on Giz? I know my friend got some from the vet for her dog's paws because the dog was an obsessive licker and wouldn't leave his paws alone! I don't know if this is an option to use on one dog to prevent the other from licking it... your vet would know though. Hope some of this will help! Every puppy is different; my sheepdog has decided he is the top dog, he has surpassed poor Ru (because Ru is so nervous I guess). He prances about the house like he built the place. Entertaining to watch them interact! Thanks for this. I have used anti chew on Giz which was really good on the ears but now he is bald down both sides and I can;t figure if it was the anti chew or Bailey sucking his sides because his ears tasted awful? There still doesn;t seem any sign of fur growing back which is worrying. We always make sure there are plenty of chew toys and stuffys for him to play with. He does spend a deal of time racing about the yard with Giz ( However due to Giz getting his spine injured again this was stopped for a bit) Gizzy got Fibrocartilaginous Embolism (FCE) So we have to be mindful of that with the big puppy! http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=1663 Thanks for the info about poop and all that I was worried I was overfeeding. Not giving him enough water etc. My other dog was only ever fed once a day and that was at 9pm at night. It was what he was used to when he came to us so we never changed it. Little Bailey was fed three times a day up until 6 months. I am ok with twice daily feeds as long as it doesn;t mean night time care. We have a disabled boy here who once disturbed at night is extremely hard to settle again and has night fits so you can imagine we don;t want to encourage that sort of thing. We try to give Bailey a lot of attention. We do fetch and chase games a lot. Piggy in the middle stuff. but also teaching games like sit stay kind of thing. I also try to groom him daily as he likes the massage - Murphy was very difficult to groom and so was our first dog Molly. Though Pollyanna the blind brain damaged OES loved being groomed as she liked the contact. I think Murphy was hit with the brush as he didn;t like his feet touched and neither did our first oes Molly x wolfhound - I think both those dogs were hit with the brush - so I tried to make it "nice" for Bailey right from the start. He is very tollerent which is great. BAiley doesn;t get lots of attention. It is impossible to give him that level when there are two disabled people in the house and I have Fibro ( Soft tissue arthritis and Asthma - which is why I got wooly dogs lol!) It means I am not allowed to walk out in extreme cold or wet and when I am in pain it is not good news. The older Oes dogs never seemed to bother about that much but I guess a young pup this age has greater needs. We use the tread mill to excersize when I cant get out. - DH has had two major heart surgeries and a heart attack. He also has a collaping spine so I do most all of the walking these days. Though I am "working on sit play games" like if DH sits he can throw balls etc for Bailey to bring back. Our very disabled son who lives with us in virtually blind and very handicapped so it is not easy to get longterm interaction but I think Bailey is figuring it out that Dan is "special." My other son who is brain damaged lives in sheltered accomodation with daily care workers. He has two dogs. So I walk over with Bailey at least once a week to "visit" for play dates with his two girls. They are a collie with hip displcia and a little whippet who was a rescue and has confidence issues. THey all get on well and so far no bother. It is good for Bailey to be socialized. I do hope he grows out of this ? OES are really good with the disabled . Oes |
Oesdog wrote: [I think Murphy was hit with the brush as he didn;t like his feet touched and neither did our first oes Molly x wolfhound - I think both those dogs were hit with the brush - so I tried to make it "nice" for Bailey right from the start. He is very tollerent which is great. Oes It's wonderful that you made Bailey like brushing from the get go, but don't assume the dogs in the past were hit with a brush. There's an art to raising a dog who has to be groomed a lot right in terms of tolerating brushing and even then some of my sweetest otherwise most easy going dogs have not enjoyed having their feet done. Tolerated it, yes, but they clearly hated it and they were certainly never hit. Some dogs are just more touch sensitive than others. On the flip side they were/are often the most sensitive to/careful around young children, the disabled etc. Don't ask me why.  It certainly sounds like you've got your hands full  Kristine |
Mad Dog wrote: Oesdog wrote: [I think Murphy was hit with the brush as he didn;t like his feet touched and neither did our first oes Molly x wolfhound - I think both those dogs were hit with the brush - so I tried to make it "nice" for Bailey right from the start. He is very tollerent which is great. Oes It's wonderful that you made Bailey like brushing from the get go, but don't assume the dogs in the past were hit with a brush. There's an art to raising a dog who has to be groomed a lot right in terms of tolerating brushing and even then some of my sweetest otherwise most easy going dogs have not enjoyed having their feet done. Tolerated it, yes, but they clearly hated it and they were certainly never hit. Some dogs are just more touch sensitive than others. On the flip side they were/are often the most sensitive to/careful around young children, the disabled etc. Don't ask me why. It certainly sounds like you've got your hands full Kristine I just thought they might have been hit with the brush because they were both terrified of the thing. Murph used to try to attack it and Molly would hide when you got it out. In the end when Molly got cancer I gave up and she ended up with Norah batty tights! We just cut them off like a big carpet - I checked with the Vet and they said that was fine as long as it was not pulling on her skin. It just didn;t seem fare to put her though a lot of unessissary tugging when she was suffering already. Murph - well he was lovely untill you got to his feet! I just shaved him down twice a year. Got to the point when you get up one day take a look at the devistation on that coat you so want to look like a dulux add and give up go get the shears and start over! Having a pup means you can work on that right from the start. I may yet get one OES to look like a crufts special!  I actually tied Baileys hair back last night with a cupple of blue bobbles - DH came down and first thing he looked at Bailey and said ohhhh - hello Fiffi ! I just told him at least they are blue! I love the grooming - it is relaxing. Though recently thanks to Bailey it is like brushing a public toilet! I do wish he would grow out of weeeeeeeeee accidents! He really didn;t like getting seperated from he chewtoy gizmo. He did sleep last night and he didn't go for a poo at 2am! I reduced his last feed and put more water in it. However when I got up this morning he wanted out to pee at 6.30am - but he was already sat in a puddle ! DARN!!!!!!! OES |
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