Update on Simon

After the week of rest and Rymadyl and Tramodol, Simon showed no improvement at all. Still lots of muscle weakness in his back legs, especially the left one. I sent for the DM test on the OFA website. Turnaround time is about 6 weeks. Today I took him to a doggie neurologist. We spent 2 hours with him! He doesn't think it's DM, maybe many other things, but started him on a conservative approach of prednisone and rest for a MONTH! That will be a challenge, lol. He thinks it could be a herniated disc. Simon is so stoic....with all the poking and prodding he only reacted by glancing at the vet and stopping his panting when he hit a spot. If this treatment doesn't work then we're talking about imaging and surgery which will cost me @ $7000.00 - $8000.00 which I have no idea how I will do....take a 2nd on my home? Hope it doesn't get to that. Prayers for Simon, please. He is sooooo sweet all the staff there loved him and they did the exam in the lobby!
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hugs to you keep us posted
Keeping everything :crossed: and keeping good thoughts for you and Simon. :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Hugs to you and Simon :ghug: -
hoping you get some answers soon!
Poor lil possum, thought it might of been something with the spine, especially after you said all looking reasonably OK with his hip x-rays.

Been there with Kelsey, but hers was two slipped discs and while undergoing treatment a long process. Chiro who was also a vet popped them back into place, then the fun started. :roll: Rimadyl, later on predisone and no silly sheepie things till all settled down again so she did not re-pop those 2 discs out of place again, fun that was "NOT" as she was my can clear a baby gate no problemo, why the hell have you got that there, it wont keep me that side of the room, no barrier is unjumpable silly ma, grooming table hey I can jump up and a few times miss-judged and ended over the other side of :roll: :lol: :lol: . 8 LOOOOONG Week program with the specialist, crating her for a good month, out on a lead to potty etc, out of the crate to eat etc, then away in jail again. Then after the specialist said OK, controlled walks on lead, short hill work on a lead, walks gradually increasing in time and distance but on soft surfaces over the next 4 weeks, till we could start building up to normal things again :plead: . It took 8 weeks altogether to get her back to normal but well worth it even though both of us were ready for the crazy farm :wink: :lol: :lol: .

She was 6 when this happened and sounds very similar to what simon has had happening to him.

Hoping with simon that is the problem, a herniated disc and with rest, medication and instructions from the vet all will resolve itself and you will have your man back to normal again XX. :ghug:
Wow, Lisa, thank you! Sounds very similar to what Simon is going through and you gave me such hope! Been on the prednisone now for 1 1/2 days and he seems better. Controlling the sheepie silliness is a challenge! But we're doing it....lol. Also found a canine PT near me who is awesome and may engage him later, but for right now he is on total rest...no running, no jumping, so silliness, sigh....
Poor Simon. Hopefully whatever is going on with him can be corrected with this conservative approach. Be careful with the pred though, as it can make some dogs antsy, which could make Simon feel like he should be leaping tall buildings with a single bound. :D

I think PT is a great option, but you might also want to consider a chiropractor and/or acupuncturist. Living in a suburb of Chicago, we have a great group of alternative vets in the area. Oscar's holistic vet (DVM who has studied alternative medicine in China) also does massage and acupuncture, and we have a separate chiropracter who has been working with animals for over 25 years.

A neighbor had a yellow lab, Maisie, that suddenly went completely lame on her back end. They went to vets and ortho specialists, who said it was a nerve issue and there was nothing they could do except put her to sleep. The owner decided to try an acupuncturist. When I met the dog a few months later, Maisie had a slight "hitch in her giddyup", which was difficult to see unless you were watching her closely. Otherwise, Maisie was up and about, completely healthy.

Laurie and Oscar
I've thought about finding an acupuncturist and will do that if this doesn't work. I know we have them here. Whatever it takes, ya know. I also just ordered him a new bed from Orvis, The Deep Dish Memory Foam Bed. We are going to beat this one way or another!
You will stay positive and what laurie said, think about along with conventional vet care, alternative treatments too, accupunture, canine massage, chiro or even deep tissue therapy where there is this thing they pop onto the area of concern and it stimulates the muscles and tissue in that area and helps the healing process, wish I could remember the name of that therapy. Was used on race horses but like a lot of things in therapy for horses, crossed over to the canine world too. :wink:

Also as laurie mentioned too, on the pred he is going to feel better so be carefull with full controll over his sheepie actions, would not take much to end up behind the 8 ball again with him feeling a lot more comfortablle and doing something silly to aggrivate it easily. :wink: :ghug:

Jail for Simon too :wink:
Lisa, are you referring to T-touch? I've taken several classes in T-touch with Simon when I first adopted him and he was so afraid of everything and it's an amazing process, works really well. It helped him calm down when I took him into new situations and before obedience classes and after, as well. Our trainer recommended it. He seems to already be feeling better so jail it is, lol. Fortunately he likes his crate and the Bully sticks he gets when he's in it....The canine PT I spoke with comes with an impressive reputation, he has a pool, an underwater treadmill and does massage and he's close to me. The Vet at the Neuro Clinic wants me to wait for the month of rest before i see him but I'm going to look into acupuncture in the meantime. I put rugs down on the floors but he doesn't use them, lol, Bella does :). I'm watching him like a hawk to make sure he doesn't do something silly and he's bored so we're trying to do some puzzle games to keep his brain engaged. He is sooooo stoic.....you have to really pay attention to notice him showing any pain, even the vet at the Neurological Center was a little frustrated at how little he showed pain or discomfort during the exam. My poor good boy....I just want him to feel better.
Wishing Simon the best outcome. :crossed: :crossed:
Sending positive thoughts Simon's way. Best of luck
Simon's been on rest for 4 weeks now. He was on 20mg prednisone twice a day....it made him crazy, pacing, panting, growling and snapping at Bella, so we're tapering off, with vet approval. He hasn't gotten that much of a great result with it, anyway. He's on Tramadol, mostly for the sedative affect to help me keep him quiet.

He shows some improvement, not a lot. Less wobbly, a bit easier getting up from a down but still shows weakness. I talked to yet another vet today who is a canine rehab guy in the same office as my other vet and he recommended either acupuncture, cold laser therapy or both, probably starting with acupuncture and referred me to a vet who does it, but we can't get in to her until Dec 4. I sent in the DM swab, haven't gotten results back yet but at this point all the vets seem to think this is not his issue and I tend to agree. Good news is since he's been on thyroid meds he's gone from 97 to 83 lbs!!! Yay! 80 lbs is a good weight for him.

Anyway, there seem to be so many directions to go in....Do I continue with conservative rest and maybe the acupuncture or cold laser? Or cough up the $$ for the imaging? We can't really start on any exercise rehab until the neurologist clears him for it, but I found a great guy near me who has a pool, underwater treadmill among other things. Simon doesn't appear to be in any pain but he could be fooling me, he's so incredibly stoic. I'm trying to be very patient, especially, Lisa, after you said it took Kelsy 8 weeks and it's only been three so far.

Funny thing is.....I'm having almost the exact same issue! So Simon and I are a matched set, lol! My problem is drop foot and they haven't found the cause yet, despite xrays, mri, muscle conduction test, etc. So I'm trying to avoid surgery for both of us!

Anyway, it seems a bit overwhelming knowing the best way to proceed...so for now it's still strict rest, (and he's getting really impatient with that!) and probably the acupuncture, wish we could start that sooner. Any other thoughts?
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