Stop piddling!!!! AAAAHH!

Eevee pees a little whenever she gets excited or nervous. We do everything we can to keep her from getting to the point where she does it, but we're still having accidents anyway. Some examples of when she piddles:
If she plays too rough with Bailey she piddles, when she goes to the vet she piddles, she used to piddle at obedience class (that was because she was nervous, now she does it if she gets too excited), she piddles if I get between her and Bailey's dinner, and she piddles if I tug on her collar to get her to go out when she's being stubborn, and she piddles in the middle of the night for some reason that we aren't sure of, but we think she plays with Bailey while we're sleeping.
We're going to stop feeding them at the same time, even though we were getting really close to getting them to eat at the same time without bothering each other, and I stopped pulling her out the door, but she's catching on to all my tricks for getting her out (she won't go out for treats anymore). I think she just doesn't want to go out because it's hot, since she started avoiding it when it started getting hot. But she still has to go out. I can call her all I want, she just sits there and stares at me and as soon as I reach for her she piddles.

So how do we end the nervous/excited piddles? And how do I get her to go out?
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When we got Butchy he was 3 mos old, hadn't had a collar on and hated it. After he ate if we didn't get him out immediately he'd walk into the l.r. and pee. I finally got smart and as he was eating I snap his leash on so I wouldn't have to fight him by grabbing the collar, he wasn't impressed but with constantly doing that he learned to go out as soon as he was done eating.

He's almost 3 now and it is an automatic. Maybe leashing her at meal time would help.
If I leash her at meal time she piddles because she tries to run to Bailey's bowl and can't. We tried that already. We have good days and bad days with meals, sometimes she leaves Bailey alone, other days she will throw a fit. Today was a good day.
It's called submissive urination...and it's not something she can control. Most dogs outgrow it. Building confidence helps. But they also do it when excited (the muscle control just isn't there in the urinary sphincter). Mostly it is a thing they outgrow though...thankfully!
It occurs in males and females, but in my experience it occurs more often in females.
got sheep wrote:
It's called submissive urination...and it's not something she can control. Most dogs outgrow it. Building confidence helps. But they also do it when excited (the muscle control just isn't there in the urinary sphincter). Mostly it is a thing they outgrow though...thankfully!
It occurs in males and females, but in my experience it occurs more often in females.


I didn't think she could control it, that's why I didn't get mad at her for it (and I keep telling Jacob not to be mad about it). Any ideas how to build her confidence?
snazzierella wrote:
got sheep wrote:
It's called submissive urination...and it's not something she can control. Most dogs outgrow it. Building confidence helps. But they also do it when excited (the muscle control just isn't there in the urinary sphincter). Mostly it is a thing they outgrow though...thankfully!
It occurs in males and females, but in my experience it occurs more often in females.


I didn't think she could control it, that's why I didn't get mad at her for it (and I keep telling Jacob not to be mad about it). Any ideas how to build her confidence?


Keep taking her to classes - as she will get out around a lot of stimuli, and partly she will just adjust (what is now exciting or overstimuli will become more "normal").
Have people NOT approach her directly - from the side and with less eye contact, also in a calm manner. Start with a side approach, minimal eye contact, maybe a quick pat or stroke and have them walk away. Watch her body language - you will soon know what works. :D I often use a side approach in class, actually side stepping toward them, gaze averted. It really works!
Also you can use your class stuff - a sit stay with a pat will likely work well 1st. She's doing a skill, and has a focus, so less likely to trigger the little pee.
Try and avoid the super drama people who greet with "OMG, she so CUTE!!" and swoop down at her.... :roll:
If it's appropriate, instruct them on the calm and less direct technique. 8)
My Lenny does this but only when someone comes through the front door. We get in from shopping or even if we have been gone 1 min he piddles everywhere. He has done it since he first came to us as a tiny puppy. He is 18 months now and he still hasnt grown out of it.
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