Tables and Counters

Please, oh please, someone tell me how to get our 14 month old Annabelle to stop jumping up on counters and tables. We are just kind of lost on what to do. I'll start by saying we are by no means dog behavior experts, so I'm sure what we have been doing hasn't been ideal and have most likely not done the most obvious things.

She just absolutely loves to destroy anything that is paper or cardboard or plastic, lol. And whenever we find her with something we have really only tried to do two things. 1) Tell her in a stern, not yelling, voice “bad girl” and show her the item she was chewing on. 2) Taking the item from her and give her a toy or something. Other than that we are kind of lost as to what else to do. When we catch her doing something and tell her “bad girl,” she sinks all low and goes and hides behind the couch, so I assume she knows she did something wrong. But that only lasts about 15 seconds because after she goes behind the couch she comes back out the other end jumping up and down on her back paws wanting to play. Clearly we are doing something wrong as she doesn’t seem to care in the least when we yell at her, in fact she thinks we want to play, which I don’t understand.

Most everything she gets comes from the table or the counter. In the past couple days alone she has destroyed a comb, 3 ink pens, 2 little lent rollers and 2 packs of double mint. Some of this she isn’t getting on to the table and getting out of my girlfriends purse or my back pack. We try not to leave out anything that she will want to get a hold of, but the variety of things she will chew on is so wide that we would either have to not leave anything out on the counter or table or she can’t leave our sight ever.

She had a big problem of getting in our trashcan and just getting paper out, even if it didn’t have food or anything on it, and just shred it all over the house. We were able to get a trashcan that prevents her from doing that any longer, but we are lost on the counters problem. It’d be easy if she just went up there after food or something and we could just be more mindful, but she goes after everything. Also, maybe she is just being a puppy on top of her inherent mischievousness. She’s such a wonderful dog and I am absolutely in love with her, but this is one of the few problems we have had with her that we haven’t been able to fix, as I am just lost as to how to get her to stop getting on the counters and tables.
Sorry for such a long post, but thanks for reading and I appreciate any help. At this rate my knees are going to be ruined by the time I’m 30 from being down on the floor picking up so many little pieces of plastic and paper. We have some funny pictures where she actually jumped up on to the counter at my parents house and our house, not just her front paws to get something like usual, but we caught her standing on the counter eating green beans. She’s got too much character and is too smart for her own good. Thanks.
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Please, oh please, someone tell me how to get our 14 month old Annabelle to stop jumping up on counters and tables. We are just kind of lost on what to do. I'll start by saying we are by no means dog behavior experts, so I'm sure what we have been doing hasn't been ideal and have most likely not done the most obvious things.

She just absolutely loves to destroy anything that is paper or cardboard or plastic, lol. And whenever we find her with something we have really only tried to do two things. 1) Tell her in a stern, not yelling, voice “bad girl” and show her the item she was chewing on. 2) Taking the item from her and give her a toy or something. Other than that we are kind of lost as to what else to do. When we catch her doing something and tell her “bad girl,” she sinks all low and goes and hides behind the couch, so I assume she knows she did something wrong. But that only lasts about 15 seconds because after she goes behind the couch she comes back out the other end jumping up and down on her back paws wanting to play. Clearly we are doing something wrong as she doesn’t seem to care in the least when we yell at her, in fact she thinks we want to play, which I don’t understand.
Welcome to owning an adolescent sheepdog.

Most everything she gets comes from the table or the counter. In the past couple days alone she has destroyed a comb, 3 ink pens, 2 little lent rollers and 2 packs of double mint. Some of this she isn’t getting on to the table and getting out of my girlfriends purse or my back pack. We try not to leave out anything that she will want to get a hold of, but the variety of things she will chew on is so wide that we would either have to not leave anything out on the counter or table or she can’t leave our sight ever.

Crate train her. Not home, put her in a crate. Bam she can't get to stuff she isn't supposed too. Issue solved.

She had a big problem of getting in our trashcan and just getting paper out, even if it didn’t have food or anything on it, and just shred it all over the house. We were able to get a trashcan that prevents her from doing that any longer, but we are lost on the counters problem. It’d be easy if she just went up there after food or something and we could just be more mindful, but she goes after everything. Also, maybe she is just being a puppy on top of her inherent mischievousness. She’s such a wonderful dog and I am absolutely in love with her, but this is one of the few problems we have had with her that we haven’t been able to fix, as I am just lost as to how to get her to stop getting on the counters and tables.
Sorry for such a long post, but thanks for reading and I appreciate any help. At this rate my knees are going to be ruined by the time I’m 30 from being down on the floor picking up so many little pieces of plastic and paper. We have some funny pictures where she actually jumped up on to the counter at my parents house and our house, not just her front paws to get something like usual, but we caught her standing on the counter eating green beans. She’s got too much character and is too smart for her own good. Thanks.

Again crate train. It will save your stuff and possibly her. Yes sheepies are smart. If you can't watch her put her in a crate.
We already crate her when we aren't home. The stuff I am talking about happens when we are home. Either we are in the bedroom and we think she is just sleeping in the living room or we are in the living room and she runs past us and behind the couch with something she got off the counter and we get it from her right away. That's why I said I am lost on what to do other than not letting her anywhere we aren't. And again maybe it is just part of having an adolescent puppy who doesn't want to listen for anything, but she does listen any other time.
"not letting her anywhere we aren't. And again maybe it is just part of having an adolescent puppy"
exactly, for a bit, she'll come around.


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Remeber these times as hilarious as you will miss them eventually. The first thing that you need to know about an OES is that they are their own dog. They will try to train you, but you will never train them. They will decide what they are and are not willing to do as a totally stubborn individual, but be assured you will not train them!!! They have the same brain size as an adult human and use it exactly in the same manner. They will be a baby, they will be a toddler, they will be a teenager and eventually an adult. As we treat our human children, please keep this in mind. I am not a believer in crate training as this is not my way. I would not lock my teenager in a crate, even if pushed !!! actually what a good idea , lol. They will be the best friend soul mate and child you will ever have ,if you just move away your items until they are older. I have to hide medicines in a top locked cupboard away from my youngest, I have to ensure I do not leave a cake on the table unattended as he would attempt to eat it, I have to move ornaments and brakeables until they reach a certain age and are less clumsy and naughty. I have had 3 OES and they have all grown up to be the best friend/Nanny dogs to my children and soul Mates. Remeber these times and laugh, put your handbag in the wardrobe, move all your items to too high as you would with your children and give your lovely OES a big love from me as I lost mine last Saturday to Cancer. Liz xxx
Good advice Liz and so sorry for your loss.
Thank you Ilene, Vance has just e mailed to say the same!!! I was very lucky to have been owned by Digby for nearly 14 years thank you again xxx please read my posts on Digbys post re the funeral it was lovely and has really helped xxx
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Remeber these times as hilarious as you will miss them eventually. The first thing that you need to know about an OES is that they are their own dog. They will try to train you, but you will never train them. They will decide what they are and are not willing to do as a totally stubborn individual, but be assured you will not train them!!! They have the same brain size as an adult human and use it exactly in the same manner. They will be a baby, they will be a toddler, they will be a teenager and eventually an adult. As we treat our human children, please keep this in mind. I am not a believer in crate training as this is not my way. I would not lock my teenager in a crate, even if pushed !!! actually what a good idea , lol. They will be the best friend soul mate and child you will ever have ,if you just move away your items until they are older. I have to hide medicines in a top locked cupboard away from my youngest, I have to ensure I do not leave a cake on the table unattended as he would attempt to eat it, I have to move ornaments and brakeables until they reach a certain age and are less clumsy and naughty. I have had 3 OES and they have all grown up to be the best friend/Nanny dogs to my children and soul Mates. Remeber these times and laugh, put your handbag in the wardrobe, move all your items to too high as you would with your children and give your lovely OES a big love from me as I lost mine last Saturday to Cancer. Liz xxx



Yeah, that's what I figured. She pretty much does what she wants, when she wants to if we aren't there to correct her. I guess it is just as simple as making sure nothing is there that she might want to take. It is just exhausting because you think you have everything she would want and then she starts getting new stuff. It's never anything of value really, but just a pain to clean up or am worried about her. At least twice she has somehow gotten a hold of my girlfriends razor and completely destroyed it. Luckily she didn't cut her self or anything, but we have definitely become more conscious of where we put everything and I guess just more of that is necessary. Thanks for the advice and I'm so sorry for your loss, I can't imagine the wreck I will be when that day comes with our pup.
Thank you. I am glad you have taken the advice in the good manner it is meant. Again just keep asking yourself would I leave this around near a 3 year old??? Razor? No, grandmas chrystal vase, ? no. Unfortunately all your nice things need to go high, very high or locked away. Good luck and keep laughing. Digby has in his time done it all, eaten a full bag of shopping in the back of the car... dragged my duvet off the bed to get me up and dragged it down the stairs and then all around the garden, he quite enjoyed this fun!!! at the time I did not but in hind sight hilarious memories to treasure. Liz xxx
Sit on the floor. Anything you can see will be their next target.

As wrong as it may seem, we started giving Caitlyn anything cardboard to quell her desire to steal it from places she should be. This really worked and we still give her a box every now and again as a gift. And then she's off like a rocket to shred...

Vance
p.s. they do calm down eventually honest lol xxx
I have a dedicated table and counter surfer. He will be 7yrs old next month. We learned we will never solve the problem. We have to watch what we put in dog reach. If its something we want we "try" to keep it safe. Sometimes we are not smart enough, or will not remember to put it on top of the fridge or just go brain dead and the next thing we know...gone or destroyed.

Each and every time it happens I have to whack myself on the head because I "SHOULD" know better.
Hillarious I love you haaaa haaaaaaaaaa so true haaaaaa Liz xxx
Thanks for all the replies. Yeah, it's definitely not something that is a huge deal or I get very upset about by any means, but just thought I would see if there was any way to prevent it. As I expected though, she is a sheepie and puppy, so I just need to adjust the environment accordingly.

And yeah, sometimes we give her 12-pack soda boxes and she loves destroying those. Or we just let her destroy whatever she got just so she will stop going after anything further. I always saw it as reinforcing bad behavior some, but maybe it's not such a bad thing. If she's going to keep doing it, may as well be the one who decides what she gets to destroy and what she doesn't.

Photos as promised.. She hasn't done this in quite a few months, but cute pictures none the less. In the second one she is at our house and as you can see dishes needed to be done so she made a huge racket when she got up there and scared her self. The first one she got into some green beans sitting on the oven at my parents and we have no idea what she was doing in the second picture, maybe the box of milkbones at the end of the counter.
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That last one is pure GOLD!!! She's so into she feels relaxed enough to lay down! That is awesome!!!

I work where I can get an endless supply of thick cardboard tubes, (picture a 4" diameter paper towel tube that is 1/8" thick!). So I brought home a dozen or so and they keep her busy for hours on end between simply parading around with a new toy to shredding them. Caitlyn loves her some tubies as we call them.

Vance
Haaaa Haaa Haaa I absolutely love these pics,they are fabulous!!!!! I actually spat my drink out when I saw them.They are so funny . Fabulous. P.S. you still have too many items on your tops ( one large woolly monster ) love from Liz and Digby Spirit Dog extraordinair xxxx
I haven't had many issues with chewing yet, unless I leave something on the coffee table during the night (we don't crate here). I try to make sure there's always something interesting to chew on. I'll get them a new toy every few days, they like plastic bottles and old socks a lot so most of their toys are free. I do also buy them a new toy whenever I have to buy food. It seems to keep them focused on chewing on their stuff and not my stuff.
it could be worser :D :D 8O 8)


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