can you give amoxicillon to sheepdogs?

My dog Patches is 7 years old & we have taken her to the vet. All of a sudden she came down with ear infections. We took her to the vet k& they gave her shots plus other meds,but it didn't help.Now its like her whole body is vlike that.She has a very strong oder & always scratching.She scratches so much she is pulling her hair off.What can I do.My husband has amoxicillon that he wants to give her,but not sure. Can anyone tell me what it might be & what I might do.
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I'd say find a different Vet. I wouldn't give a prescription for a human to a dog, ever.

Vance
You really can't randomly give antibiotics. Each one has specific bacteria(s) they work against.
Vets often guess a bit, using the broad spectrum ABX, but they still have certain ones for a certain type (ears, gastric, urinary - for examples) that tend to have specific "bugs". That makes it more of an educated guess, than a blind guess.
Best is to culture the area, then treat with the drug that is KNOWN to work against it.
Throwing random drugs at it can harm more than help.
Also, dosing for them is based on weight - mg/kg. That requires knowledge of the drug to get the dosing correct.
Sounds to me like it's a yeast infection, not bacterial, so antibiotics wouldn't help and in fact could make it a lot worse. The vet needs to culture for bacteria/fungii to know what meds to use, and I would recommend either way starting on pro biotics, lots of them. (like 4 or 5 capsules a day at first til this settles down)
Please don't randomly give an antibiotic without a veterinarian's approval. You can leave a problem smoldering and make an antibiotic less effective for the dog later on. There are different groups of antibiotics that treat specific kinds of bacteria... if you chose the wrong one, it won't help her. But beyond that, are there actually any sores or is it just her ears and itchy, smelly skin?

You may need to shave her shorter and bathe her frequently with an appropriate shampoo that will sooth her skin and address any skin issues. Topical first when at all possible, appropriate antibiotics only when absolutely needed.

Has your dog been tested for low thyroid? I'd think that's the first place to start along with getting her on a food that is less likely to encourage yeast (no wheat, sweet potatoes, etc.). The internal approach is always very slow and can take months to balance the system so you'll need to be patient. As Stacey mentions, a probiotic is good too.

If you have access to a board certified veterinary dermatologist, that's really the best place to start since the problem did not resolve. You don't want to just mask symptoms but actually fix the problem if at all possible. They can cut through a lot of the guessing games that often take place initially and get your dog to feeling better.

Best wishes to you both.
Ear problems can be the result of yeast, bacteria or fungal problems....or something caught in the ear such as a grass awn, or ear mite infestation. It is not uncommon to have several different problems living together in the ear: living on the ear wax, bloody exudate, dirt and moisture all within the ear.

Ear infections can be a secondary problem to allergies or other diseases like hypothyroidism or seborrhea.

Infections that have become long term, chronic. In this case the ear canal grows extra lumps resulting in cauliflower ear canal where the infection can hide deep within and under the nodules.

We assume if the vet has looked in the ear, we can rule out something stuck in there like a grass awn....foxtail or something.

The vet must take several samples, one to immediately examine under a microscope for mites. The second would be a sterile sample that is sent to a laboratory to culture to determine exactly what is growing in there. This is time consuming and can be expensive!! Most vets may opt first to do a deep cleaning where the dog is anthestized, ear cleaned and antibiotics applied. Problem is this doesn't always get everything, leaving the really tough bacteria behind.

Cleaning the ear will help for now, until the vet gets serious about treatment.....or you find a vet willing to go the distance to solve this problem.

I like to use pHisohex (which I get from the vet) and warm (not hot) water and a syringe. Very gently syringe this into the ear, rub below the ear (where the ear canal, ear drum is located). Use the solution several times and then rinse about 20 times with plain warm water. Yes, it takes a lot of rinsing. Wipe out the ear with cotton balls (never Qtips), wipe off ear flap with towel and then stand back, the dog will shake out the rest. If you have meds to put in there, wait an hour and redry again with cotton balls to make sure the ear is dry. Also example the outer part of the ear, the flap. Too much shaking will result in a hematoma ear, problem blood vessels and a swelling.

If at any time you get blood or the dog is in real pain, stop. Let the vet do this.

Your vet has done the general treatment which will work in most cases. But since you have gooey outside the ear now and body is involved, you've got major problems. The infection is well established. You will be dealing with the whole body now. I see many baths with medicated shampoo, careful drying. I suspect you'll also be changing dog food as there may well be an allergy to something in the food.

I do support the probiotics in the food, but it will be just one prong to this multi stage attempt to save your dog's hearing and even his life.
I should add this... low thyroid may have already been ruled out but IF by chance she's hypothyroid and that isn't addressed, the skin problems likely won't resolve even with treatment. Thyroid screening requires just a blood test and treatment is often a tiny pill that is relatively inexpensive. Treatment is lifelong.

Gotta run to get my dog otherwise I'd look up a link to share on low thyroid symptoms. :| Maybe someone here will share a good info link?
Don't have a link but several symtoms:
Weight gain though food intake the same.
Less active.
May seem to be always cold, heading for his bed to roll up or seeking sunlight.
Coat becomes thinner, wear spots develop, hair brittle. Hair loss my be symmetrical especially on the hind area.
Seborrhea (greasy coat) or pyoderma (think acne...puss producing areas).
Skin may develop black heads and excessive pigmentation.....OK, you have to dig down through the coat. Skin becomes........leathery around the head (getting into extreme now).
Eyelids may sag a bit making the dog look a bit.......sad.

Thyroid controls so much in the dog's body, a low case will affect how it reponds to infection, skin condition, to it's environment, etc.

Most of us catch this when the dog begins to get chunky with no cause, gets lazy or the hair changes. It's a good idea to have the dogs tested every few years in young dogs and yearly with older dogs. Right now I'm w/o a hypo-dog but one is tittering on being too low.

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/07/19/yes-you-can-get-a-oneyear-heads-up-that-your-dog-is-hypothyroid.aspx
http://www.vetinfo.com/symptoms-hypothyroidism-dogs.html
http://www.ehow.com/about_5374015_signs-symptoms-hypothyroidism-dogs.html


Finally I want to mention Canine Atopy......allergic skin disease. This can be season "hayfever" or can be year round due to environmental conditions including food, dust mites, molds, dust, etc. All the itchies and scratchies end up damaging the skin which leads to skin infection, etc. Dog is miserable. I don't think that's where your dog's problem lies.....but it something to think about. Treatment is the same as with humans, testing, desensitizing, allergy shots, etc. Never had a dog with severe allergies, but neighbor had a chow chow who could not be on grass lawns.
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