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took bloo first agility class yesterday. The woman sid do you want to put bloo in the car while you watch!
mom said he doesnt like being in the car
We have never left him in the car, if we go some where that doesnt allow dogs we leave him in the house with the cats safe and sound..

She said.. well if you want to do agility he has to learn to be in the car! WHY?!
Ive done both training classes and never should you leave a dog in the car never mind a puppy!
She told us a lecture about teaching him to be alone in the car..
`put him in, then walk around the corner if he barks ignore him, then return` aha sorry but no way am i leaving bloo in the car on any circumstances...

sorry about the rant but it really annoyed me.. :headbang:
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I leave Georgi in the car but only if I have to go into tesco as dogs are not allowed in also when we go to shows she waits until I unpack the car & if the show is outside & crap weather I leave her there but not for too long also with the windows down but never in the street. So he needs to learn to stay in the car but not for too long. It has nothing to do with agility class so I would worry about it but he does need to learn to stay on his own but how long is up to you
I wouldn't leave a puppy LOOSE in a car (an agility instructor did this once, you never do it more than once <g> and came back to no seat belts... :lol: :lol: :lol: ), no, but in a crate in the car, yes, I left my almost 12 wk old Luna there for the first part of Sybil's class the other night and when I came back out to get her she was peacefully laying down, not dozing, but relaxed. I also expect my dogs to peacefully watch other dogs, including housemates, when they're running agility and so on, quietly and with no fuss. Start this young and it's easier, but he's still a baby in his own right, no time like the present. It's a training issue is all.

Is he crate trained? Can you bring a crate and leave him in that if the crate doesn't fit in the car? Because instructor is correct, if he cannot safely be left somewhere agility training and trialing, both, are going to be a real challenge.

Teaching him that he can be on his own even if not in his own house and the world will not end is actually a good confidence booster and agility is all about (building) confidence and trust.

Kristine
moms only got a little mitsubishi czc colt convertable so crates cant fit :( Bloo can hardly fit on the front seat.

Hes fine left in the house, but no way in the car. At training we had to get him in and out safely, we were talking outside the door and he was going crazy banging his head all over the place. He isnt crate trained as when he was a puppy we used to put him in the back room at night.he used to sleep under the table. We have 2 crates but he uses them as toy dens, the minute you shut it he goes mad (some crazy fit)
First we cant fit crate in car. Even not in dads he has a pegeot 207 coupe so no hatch back.. he sits on the back seats. Cant risk chewed up leather seats, hes already eaten moms plastic car door! :O
I dont really understand why he should need to be left in the car but she seened to think he should :(
I just want to do agility for fun at the moment not competing and if he ever does compete mom will be with me (I cant drive)
he can be left somewhere, he will bark and freak out but wil collapse in half hour..i just dont see the need really :/
It does seem fairly common (weather permitting) to have dogs crated in cars at many dog events. However, we have never, and will never leave Mady alone in the car. Sorry we just wont do it. At her herding trial this summer, we did bring the fold up crate, and she spent some of the time in the crate in a barn with other crated dogs.
We use a fold up crate & they are very good. But he needs to be left on his own not for too long as you will have issue later in his life. When you start going to work or Uni so better train him while he is young
he is left in the house alone.. the longest hes been alone for in the house is.id say...2 hours, he soon settlles down he has never been destructive.
I dont feel crates are necessary in house,but we would have it in the car but its too small :( Bit stuck really lol :P :lmt:
Baba wrote:
However, we have never, and will never leave Mady alone in the car. Sorry we just wont do it.


Interesting. What are you afraid will happen?

There are times of the year where it's just not responsible to leave a dog in a crate (heat) and neighborhoods where I wouldn't risk bringing a dog, period. But beyond that mine sleep well in the car, thank god, or long trips would be a nightmare and my older girls who enjoy going for car rides wouldn't get to go to the grocery store with me and so on.

Or maybe it's not the rides they look forward to as much as what's on the coming week's menu? ;-)

The puppies' great-grandmother did teach me the value of putting the groceries in a crate if I wasn't going to put her there :lol:

Kristine
BlooBoo wrote:
he is left in the house alone.. the longest hes been alone for in the house is.id say...2 hours, he soon settlles down he has never been destructive.
I dont feel crates are necessary in house,but we would have it in the car but its too small :( Bit stuck really lol :P :lmt:


Yeah, that's a tough one.

My puppies right now are protesting their crates, but I ignore them and they take a nap. It helped prepare them for riding in a crate in the car. Heading to class the other night I was half tempted to leave Luna loose and let Sybil keep an eye on her, but fortunately my brain returned at the last moment :twitch: :twitch: :twitch: I don't know how people manage to drive with a youngster loose in the vehicle. I don't trust the youngsters one bit. I suppose they use seatbelts and such. Nothing but a crate would work with Luna and I'd probably arrive to find her if not entwined in the steering wheel, then hanging from her teeth from the interior ceiling of the vehicle ;-)

Kristine
I guess it pobably isn't so much she wants him to learn to be in a car as she wants him to learn to be in a confined space & not freak out. hy don't you try taking a fold up crate withoyoiu to class & when they suggest that it is time for him to go into the car for a spell, put him in the crate whether it be outside or in the building or whatever. My dogs love their crates or kennels. It's "their" place to relax. As for the car, they don't even care if they get out when we go on errands. All they care about it that they got to go along for the ride. I guess raising a dog without a crate would be the same to me as raising a baby without a playpen!
Charm goes with me on most short errands. It is part of our daily routine and she is very comfortable. I do admit that I do not like to leave her in the locked truck, even for the briefest time. I don't worry that she will destroy anything but that a crazy nut will try to take her. It must sound irrational to some, but I'm very serious about it.
Samantha,

Good for you! I have never left my dogs in a car. Its really a personal decision
of the owner as to whether to leave a dog in a car.
Obviously not in extreme weather.

That said, it was a blast going through the drive thru at Wendys with him
years ago. Every staff member was waiting at the drive thru window to see what kind of dog
had such a bark---he was in full Sheepie coat, and they were very
surprised! :wag:
Having Caitlyn crate trained paid off in spades last October when I met up with Marilyn in Columbus, OH where she was showing Annie. When it was time for Aniie to hit the ring, we left Caityln in Annie's crate and she was a dream. I can't imagine the fit she would had thrown if not for us crate training. After that one day, I know that is one less thing I'll be worrying about when we start showing regularly.

Do what you can to crate train Bloo even if it's only for short times. Any amount of time should help him understand how things work.

I looked up a car like your mum's Mitsu... That IS a small car. Any chance you've got a mate who drives something bigger who you could get interested in you agility work?

Vance
Maybe I lost something here but WHY did the instructor want the dog left in the car for an agility lesson :lmt: I know you said it was the first class but did they specify the first class would be humans only? I have no problem with dogs learning to stay in a car ( assuming weather permitting) but why would an instructor ask you bring your dog and then tell you to leave him in the car during the lesson?

Sam, I am with you....I decide when and why my dog stays in the car without me....and if I paid for agility lessons, that is what I want my dog to have...if I wanted my dog to learn how to stay in the car, I can teach that myself! My alert would be up at this class...make sure you like what they are telling you to do or go somewhere else....
Ashley wrote:
... Sam, I am with you....I decide when and why my dog stays in the car without me....and if I paid for agility lessons, that is what I want my dog to have...if I wanted my dog to learn how to stay in the car, I can teach that myself! My alert would be up at this class...make sure you like what they are telling you to do or go somewhere else....


Reading what you think is dead on Ashley. Who better to know when to crate or car a dog. Sam knows Bloo better than anyone. Sure, we all know the breed, but only Sam knows Bloo. Unless the first class was a human only, I say let Bloo stand by Sam. He needs to know how to behave in that crowd as much as how to sit quietly in a crate. Yeah he needs crate time but he also needs to work within that atmoshpere too.

Vance
Mad Dog wrote:
Baba wrote:
However, we have never, and will never leave Mady alone in the car. Sorry we just wont do it.


Interesting. What are you afraid will happen?

There are times of the year where it's just not responsible to leave a dog in a crate (heat) and neighborhoods where I wouldn't risk bringing a dog, period. But beyond that mine sleep well in the car, thank god, or long trips would be a nightmare and my older girls who enjoy going for car rides wouldn't get to go to the grocery store with me and so on.

Or maybe it's not the rides they look forward to as much as what's on the coming week's menu? ;-)

The puppies' great-grandmother did teach me the value of putting the groceries in a crate if I wasn't going to put her there :lol:

Kristine


Well basically, except when Mady is home alone, she is pretty much never out of our sight. We're actually having our oldest nephew dog sit her this weekend, which makes it only the 3rd time ever she has been left with someone else (and he did dogsit Morgan and Virginia this summer during Mady's herding trial). Mady is terrific in the car though, and she'll love her weekend with her cousin. It's just us 8)
It is a tiny car vance thats the trouble.

The lady said bring him along we will assess his obidience level give you some tips then you can go w them do some agility bring him along.
Here in england the winds are incredibley strong and it keeps raining really hard. Bloo would only get freaked out about the noise of the weather never mind anything else.
She said put bloo in car whilst you watch beacuse outsider dogs arent allowed to go into the agility part as some dogs are aggressive.. moms reply umm no hes a dog just like them, you said on the phone he could come, hes not crate trained, its quite hard with a small car like mine. well, i personally dont like the idea just because incase someone came and stole him,,its not the safest area.
She said to do agility you have to sometimes leave the dog in the car.. i thought why??
Does anyone know why she told me this???? i dont see the reason to be fair :(

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Sam knows Bloo better than anyone. Sure, we all know the breed, but only Sam knows Bloo.

Bloo is just a naughty toddler, thinks hes the best, wants everything is spoilt etc.. just like the normal naughty puppy only bigger..much bigger lol ! :)
Thanks for the opinions.
It is all persons prefernce about leaving dogs in cars, i just wondered why she said you cant do agility properly if the dog isnt car trained??? Thats was all, but thanks anyways xx
sam xx :ghug:
I think it is very important that a dog be able to sit quietly in a car without a person being with them.

I had an emergency situation shortly after Oscar came into our lives and before Dudley arrived. We had a major windstorm that took out a power line just down from my house. The power line caught fire and there was nothing the fire department could do until Con Ed de-energized the line. Since they had so many incidents I was told that could take several hours. The fire was slowly creeping down the line towards the house. The fire department suggested that because I had a number of animals it would be a good idea to get them out of the house while I had time to gather all of them (2 rabbits, 4 cats, 1 dog). They suggested I put them in my car and then move my car further down the street, which I did. Oscar sat quietly in the car for almost 2 hours, along with the cats and rabbits in their carriers. I stayed up by the house to keep an eye on the fire situation. Oscar never made a fuss, my car was totally intact and everything ended fine. A good reason to make sure your dog is car trained!

Kathie
Oh, wow...good dog! :bow: :bow: :bow:

Kristine
My fear of leaving Mady started when a woman I work for had her van full of her competitive flyball dogs stolen. They had been in a restaurant for lunch, dogs in the van. I could care less about my car, but my dog? Having said that, I can appreciate that there might be emergency situations so I will have to figure out a way to practice that.
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