Anyone know anything about Goldendoodles???

Hi everyone

I have been thinking about a goldendoodle puppy, buy I don't know anything
about their personalities. Look foward to hearing from you.
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They are pretty popular around here, but I would never get one or recommend one.

I teach obedience classes, and we get a fair number through our classes - usually at least one in every class. I know none of the humans would get one again.
They seem to all grow really tall (taller than either the poodle or golden tetriever parents) and are way too much dog for the average person. Mostly it's families who believe all the hype about how great they are. They feel VERY wronged and end up with a dog that is hard to control and crazy out-of-control. Most are at their wits end by the time we see them in class. And they have lots of issues, mostly as the dogs are so overwhelming and hard to live with d/t high activity levels.
And about half of them shed anyway, so that supposed benefit is non-existant. :plead:

I feel so bad for them. :(
If you are a total dog person who gives them a job every day, have no other hobbies or a job, a distance runner who wants a dog to run your training runs with, or devote half your day to mental games for the dog - it's the dog for you. :?

One exception: Right now I have a nice little dog in class who is a little one - likely bred a golden to a miniature or toy poodle - who is liveable. Of course, he does belong to a self-employed, at home guy who gives the dog lots of attention and works him. :wink:
Listen to Dawn. Most people buy into the hype of how they are non-shedding & hypo-allergenic. They sell around here for $1500.00 & are described as "designer dogs" (to make them more appealing). Designer dogs are nothing more than mutts. 2 dogs that people have thrown together. If you really feel this is the type of dog you want, do yourself & your local shelter a favor & look there 1st. They usually have a large number of them & they can be adopted for a small fee in comparison to paying a large sum of money for what is definitley a mixed breed dog.
They are a designer dog. Which means they take 2 pure bred parents from different breeds cross them to get a mutt with a fancy name. People that do this are only looking to fatten their wallets, bybers. If you really want one go to the pound, they are about $1,450.00 cheaper and the pound includes a free spay or neuter,shots and a wellness check.
I know two Goldendoodles, one male, one female, and both are lovely. They are both sweet dogs, with more of the lab personality. Neither one sheds. Neither was difficult to train. Neither are particularly active.

The male is my SIL 's , and the female is my neighbor's dog, so they came from different backgrounds. Maybe both just got really lucky. :D

Because they are so popular, I think some folks are just throwing together any retriever and any poodle to make a buck, which can lead to a poor result. Like getting any other dog, you really have to do your research on the breeder. I also would have trouble paying the same amount I would pay for a purebred dog, but that's just me.

Laurie and Oscar
So Laurie - are they LABradoodles then?
I did have one of those in class a couple years ago, and she was nice. A bit neurotic, but liveable. She was afraid to be touched by strangers, they had her from a puppy and had done all the "right" socialization things. :?

And I do ask people here where they get them from, hoping I can pinpoint a certain breeder to avoid. But they all seem to come from different places, and many from surrounding states as well.
in big letter NO!! I TAKE CARE OF ONE FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS 3 TIMES A WEEK ,, TRUST ME THEY ARE STUBBORN , HARD TO TRAIN .. NEVER RELAX .. BUG MY BOYS 24/7 THEY ARE ALL AROUND THE SAME AGE.. BUT I GET PAID WELL LOL .. I DO LOVE HIM IT MIGHT NOT SOUND IT.. :cow:
I go to an offleash dog park pretty much daily. I have yet to meet a golden doodle who was not obnoxious and hyper and neurotic. I love mutts and most of Mady's best buddies are mutts, but something happens when these two breeds get mixed. Of course, this is just based on my exposure at dog parks. It is the strangest thing. I love golden retrievers, and I love Standard poodles but in my experience mixing the two does not result in a great dog-certainly not worth the price. And yet I have met other combinations of mutts who are delightful and have the best of their genetic mix.

So I am unsure as to whether it is because golden doodles are bred by people who don't even try to breed for temperament or who don't socialize their pups or if they are purchased by people who just don't do their research and are not great dog owners no matter what breed they got. I would like to meet a nice one, though, because I find that I am developing some prejudices. I have yet to meet a golden doodle I liked, and have yet to meet a Jack Russell who wasn't vicious. I will keep trying, though, because I don't like judging based on breed, it makes me sad!
I have met a handful of Goldendoodles and Labradoodles; some good, some bad. But all are REALLY high energy, and that's saying something when its coming from Tonks' and Luna's mom!!! My girls are constant time eaters; training, exercising, grooming. But the 'Doodles seem to run circles around my girls, and their owners always comment on just how much energy they always have. I've also yet to meet an owner that says they got what they were promised; the worst being a woman who was assured she was getting a "tea=cup" doodle, and her dog outweighed and was taller than my heaviest OES girl. The best being someone that was promised a hypo-allergenic dog, and then had to give it up when they were allergic to it. I think they are super cute, but I'm always glad I don't have one-- they make sheepdogs look easy!!!!! :wink:
My cousin bought a goldendoodle --I really tried to talk her out of it!

He is hyper--hard to train--and very stubborn. He ended up a much larger dog than she was told he would be. He does shed--badly. He is timid and does not like my boys at all. He seems afraid of them and they haven't tried really hard to befriend him.

She loves him dearly but has said several times that she would not do it again.
I go to the same vet as one of the more prominent and better established Labradoodle breeders in the US. He OFA's, CERF's and does the same health tests as recommended by AKC breed clubs. His dogs have lovely temperaments and have a coat more similar to a Poodle than a Lab. They sort of resemble an OES with a curly puppy cut growing out, but have different colors, different sizes and the temperament isn't as happy-go-lucky as the typical OES.

Most importantly, he uses Australian MultiGen Labradoodles from the foundation stock recognized in Australia where the breed was established. Yes -- it is a breed there and was created in the same way that today's established AKC breeds were created. About 20 years ago, some people wanted to create an intelligent, non-shedding service dog. They put together Labs and Poodles (and a couple of other breeds) to create what is known as the Labradoodle. They established foundation stock, used it for multiple generations and now there is a definitive breed type which is derived from its intended function as a service dog.

I've seen many of his dogs around here and they are fantastic. I know of three people who use them as service dogs and are delighted.

Unfortunately, in the US (and probably elsewhere in the world), people are confused and think that a simple breeding of a Lab to a Poodle is a Labradoodle. If you are serious about getting one and want greater assurance it will have the breed type of an actual Labradoodle (non-shedding, curly hair, smart, more Lab-like temperament), go to a breeder who breeds from Australian MultiGenerational stock.

Don't pay the big bucks for a puppy from a simple Lab-Poodle breeding. You won't have any idea what you're getting and could very well and up with a dog that carries the more undesirable traits of the Poodle (hyper) and Lab (shedding). The people that talk about seeing rangy, unruly, shedding goldendoodles or similarly named designer dogs are most likely talking about simple crosses like this. It's not the same thing but it's easy to see why people are confused.

On the other hand, a puppy from an established Labradoodle breeder using Australian multigen stock will cost at least as much as an OES puppy from an OESCA breeder, and justifiably so given the cost of health testing, quality foundation stock, etc.

Google the term "Australian Labradoodle Association of America" and you will find more information about the Labradoodle breed and a list of breeders worldwide.

I think they're pretty but I'd still rather have an OES. There's nothing like them!
Golden Doodles and Labradoodles were originally bred as service dogs for handicap people with allergies...Unfortunately, low level breeders saw a financial opportunity and jumped in with their "designer" dogs....I have a few golden doodles in my neighborhood and they are very large and high strung and require lots and lots of attention and time..Someone at work got one from a so called "breeder" down south and she paid top dollar only to find her poor baby has hip dysplacia at age two :x ...so, my advice is BEWARE....Desogner dogs as they call them today were called mixed breeds when I was young and they are mixed breeds....nothing wrong with a mixed breed but don't put alot of faith into Breeders selling mixed breed dogs for a tremendous amount of money calling them designer dogs...If you want a mixed breed, go to a rescue or shelter and give one of those babies a nice home...They deserve it....
I think that the poster was talking about goldendoodles, not labradoodles. I have had great experiences with labradoodles, very different than my experiences with the Golden variety of oodle.
Both are, in fact, Goldendoodles, not Labradoodles. Based upon the other comments on this forum, the ones I know are exceptional! :D Seriously, they both have wonderful temperaments. Neither one is hyper, and both are very comfortable in social situations, with people and other dogs. I have been to many, many large gatherings with both dogs, and they basically greet everyone and then go lay down. Matter of fact, Jordan likes to fall asleep sprawled in the middle of the party. :D

Oscar, though better trained, is waaaaaaaaay more anxious than either Goldendoodle. And he's better trained because I put in lots and lots of time doing it.

Not sure where either dog came from. I'm pretty sure Sammie came from here in Illinois, and I want to say that Jordan came from Michigan, but I'm not sure. I do know that both dogs are the result of a Golden Retreiver being bred to a Standard Poodle, as opposed to one or both of the parents being a Goldendoodle.

I really like the info provided by the Guest about the Australian stock. If I were looking into this breed, I would be looking at this closely, as it seems to be the best way to avoid paying top dollar for some random cross.

Laurie and Oscar
The guy in aussie that tryed to create a new breed stopped after years of tryin. He was not able to acheive the kind of service dog he wanted. Also his stock were not just poodle and lab, He put quite a few other breeds into the mix. There is no such thing as aussie stock it is just anouther byb ploy to make money. There was never a labradoodle breed so there is no standard, you just dont know what you'll get. Your better off getting a mutt from the pound, they will apreciate it more anyway.
If you google guy that created labradoodles, you will find articals that say how much he regrets creating this fad. I would provide thembut im on my tablet atm. Copy and paste is a luxury lol.
Guys (and original poster),
My sister has a female goldendoodle (Addy) that is an absolute DREAM of a dog.
She was super easy to train, great off-leash, listens & responds to commands perfectly.
She is very mellow and gets along with any person or any dog.

People LOVE her. Even non-dog people. They say she is the perfect dog.
Everybody that knows Brick and Addy is always comparing Brick to her and asks me why can't Brick be like Addy. It's kinda annoying, actually. Brick is a terrier. They are more lively than either a poodle or a golden retriever, and therefore a goldendoodle.

I wish you all could meet her and see first hand how great she is.

I always take credit for her, though. I was the one who picked her out from her litter. The breeder his located near CNY, so I went up and picked Addy out and brought her home. She stayed with me for a week before my sister could get in from Boston to take her home.

She is the sweetest dog.
The article about the man who is credited with creating Labradoodles says he regrets using the term "Labradoodle" in his effort because of the reasons cited earlier -- the combination of the two breed names led people to believe a simple cross between a Lab and a Poodle was a Labradoodle and then BYB's and puppy millers started the designer dog craze. He wishes he would have given it unique name like "allergy free service dog" so people focused less on what breeds went into the dog and more on what the dog's function actually is.

I didn't see anything on the web about him regretting using selective breeding to create the foundation stock for the allergy free service dog.

As far as the OP question goes, a goldendoodle would be a designer dog (ie mutt) and not a true Labradoodle. There is an extremely good chance you would not be getting the desirable characteristics of either breed.
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As far as the OP question goes, a goldendoodle would be a designer dog (ie mutt) and not a true Labradoodle. There is an extremely good chance you would not be getting the desirable characteristics of either breed.


Actually, a goldendoodle never would be a labradoodle.

A goldendoodle is a mix between a Golden Retriever and a Poodle.
A labradoodle is a mix between a Labrador Retriever and a Poodle.

Two totally separate mixed breed combinations.
Thank you for all your reply's. I have only had Old English sheepies and the Golden Doodle was just a thought. I love my sheepies. That's why I asked, I trust this forum there is a ton of knowledge wihin all of our members. When I am ready to add to my herd, I will stick with my tried and true sheepies.

Jo Anne
juliet1920 wrote:
Thank you for all your reply's. I have only had Old English sheepies and the Golden Doodle was just a thought. I love my sheepies. That's why I asked, I trust this forum there is a ton of knowledge wihin all of our members. When I am ready to add to my herd, I will stick with my tried and true sheepies.

Jo Anne


Very smart move :wink:
Glad I found this post!!! I have a goldendoodle, Sam. Many of you have met him and would probably agree that he is a handful!!! (Remember his head in the cooler at Sheepiefest?) :roll:

A lot of what was said earlier is true with Sam. He's a 2 year old puppy. We train him every day but he is stubborn!!! He actually learns quickly but refuses to do anything unless it's on his terms. It's only marginally better as he gets older...

We love him to pieces though and I wouldn't trade him for anything! It was only until we got Nola that we realized the difference between a truly well behaved dog and...well...Sam...
Hi-

well, I know that "designer dogs" are a hot topic, but there is a reason why people mix dogs. having said that.... we once had a goldendoodle. we wanted a non-shedding low allergy dog, but weren't poodle lovers at the time. a goldendoodle seemed the perfect answer for us.

we got Java. My hubby drove 12 hours to pick him up. He was incrediblly smart, fun, and loving. However, MUCH MUCH too energetic for our family. My hubby would go running like 3 miles with him, and he wasn't tired. We would bike and have him run next to us. When we had a fenced yard he did pretty well. Once we moved and got the electric fence, he would just run through it, even with good training. He chewed the outside of one of our windows, chewed through the hoses on our A/C (and this was shortly after closing on our newly built $400K house) and then my son ended up in the hospital for close to 4 months. We found Java a GREAT home with a semi-retired 50 year old lady- who is SUPER active- hiking, biking, DAILY. she still says she has never met another dog with so much energy and he is close to 5 years old now.

so, GREAT dogs. loving, fun, smart. But unless you have tons of time to keep energy run off, and don't dare miss a day :-) - then I wouldn't suggest them. perhaps a VERY carefully bred one if you are SET on getting one. I'd look to doodles in Fl- there is a really good breeder there- does temperment testing, picks for families, etc...

I thought having hands on knowledge, and not just knowing someone with one would be helpful.

and as far as my two cents.... labradoodles are even more high maintenance. sigh

good luck :-)

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I believe that as in any breed..it is the breeder and the bloodlines. Moe is a sheepadoodle...his mom was a oes dad standard poodle and the woman we got him from bred her two dogs and only had two litters. He is more sheepie than poodle..people alws think he is oes.He is the best dog.We have six lab and gldendoodles in the family and they are all wonderful dogs.The only thing I would say is the oldendoodles are definately more high energy.I would like to get a purebred oes but I am want to rescue one that needs a home rather than get a puppy.My husband doesnt totally agree with this as he believes one 100lb son in the family is enough nd another one wouldnt fit on the bed.
idagin wrote:
My husband doesnt totally agree with this as he believes one 100lb son in the family is enough nd another one wouldnt fit on the bed.


That made me giggle! :lol:
idagin wrote:
I believe that as in any breed..it is the breeder and the bloodlines.


You hit the nail on the head.
It doesn't matter if the dog is a purebred or a mix. Bad parents will net bad kids.
I love that someone has a sheepadoodle (don't shoot me people)

that is HOW I found out about OES. I was looking for poodle mixes, because
I love poodles, wanted a big dog, but didn't want a standard poodle.

I found a breeder who did sheepadoodles, and saw a pic of OES - and asked
about the hair. That is how I found out about them, and that they don't shed.

She also told me an OES can live without a walk once in awhile, but poodles
may go nutty. So, that started me on my OES search.

I know most people are die hard pure bred people here. I'm really not in
one ring or the other. I see the reasons for people to like both.

And of course, the above statement stands... it is the breed and the bloodlines
I always wanted an oes ..but my husband said no..too big and hairy..He found Moe and said thats the dog i want..now he says he is the smartest dog..has all the sheepie traits..velcro dog..but also is the only dog in the park that brings back the ball EVERY time..people mistake him for a sheepie..also herds the neighbors chickens out of the yard..so i now can mulch my gardens..he wasnt supposed to be so big..he is 95 lbs..thats one of the reasons we got him he was supposed to top out at 60 lbs.I want to now rescue a sheepdog as a buddy for Moe ..but I never see any in pa..delaware..does anyone know of any midatlantic sheepdog rescue organizations??
ps.Moe loves playing with Murphy and Marley the two sheepies that come to our dogpark
Don't do it!!! I have a one yr old and to say she is a handful is an understatement. I went from a nice sweet CALM rottweiler to a huge, INSANE goldendoodle. I walk her a few miles a day and she is still never tired and I have to have her groomed 2xs month. This is on top of the $300/ month I pay for dog walkers because too much energy to leave alone while I work. I regret getting her almost daily. I hope she calms down eventually and will love her forever but would NEVER recommend breed. She has a trainer and he said it is one of his least favorite breeds. I wish I would have done more research.
I still don't think it's the "breed". It's the individual pup. Just like human siblings, they're all different.

When you go to get a pup, ANY pup, you really need to run the pups thru a battery of tests (I found a set called Puppy Try-outs; I think something like them are posted on the main page of this site) to determine their temperments.
After running the pups thru the test (which ranks them), you can then make an educated decision about which pup will best fit your home & lifestyle.
I too saw how cute the goldendoodles are and got sucked into all the hype. I had to have one, despite my husband telling me no, not a good idea. Well I talked him into it. We went to a breeder near Lancaster pa. My son picked the one he wanted for our family, even though he didn't want the dog to begin with, he's more of a cat person. I regretted getting this dog for the first 8 months. He was too hyper , always nipping and jumping we would literally be running away from him. My husband and my son both wanted to give him back. I am soooooooo happy we didn't because after the first 8 months passed something changed in him. He started understanding when we said no to him and started becoming less hyper too. Now he is he best thing that ever happened to our family. He is so lovable and sweet and intelligent and loves us even more! All he wants to do is please us. He wants to be involved with everything were oing weather it's outside doing yard work, playing or inside goofing around or just lounging back and watching TV he is right there with us! He sits by our side he comforts us if he senses something is wrong. I am telling you the goldendoodle is the perfect dog. Just give him a good 10 months to understand your family routine and you will NOT be disappointed. Our 11 month old male goldendoodle is 80 pounds. He is very tall. He looks like a small pony. He turns heads everywhere he goes. People always want to know what type of dog he is. Goldendoodles are grrrrrrrreat!!!!!!!!!
What the last poster posted can pretty much be said about all young dogs......terrors until the human and dog connect. I'm glad she is happy with her dog. Of course we all feel our dogs are the best.
I know we've discussed this topic before but since "doodles" are what made me find out more about OES, I have done a lot of research. There are all types of doodles these days - mostly from BYB looking to "share love" and make money. But - there are legitimate breeders who test and monitor their litters of Labradoodles. Not so much on the other doodles. So it ultimately is the breeding stock and the breeder that matters.

I flinch at the term "mutt" because when one researches almost any breed, it started out as a "blend" of other types of dogs until the breedings perfected the new "breed" and a standard was produced (and often revised). Having said that, the problem with most Labradoodles or Goldendoodles is people do not research the poodle side of things very well. They do not understand the energy of young poodles or their intelligence - so much like a border collie, they get undermined by owners who don't know how much they need.

The other issue is the most important one - the breeder. Wally Conren was the original breeder of the Labradoodle. Here is the article about his regrets:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/la ... 5860829155

But also note his intention to start a new breed which he did as any good breeder does - there was much more to his plan than just putting two types of dogs together. Unfortunately there are only a handful of US breeders continuing that work. Too many more breeders have muddied those waters. sigh.
If knowledgeable breeders were to ban together and using the medical info available now, they could develop a stable breed in time. Yes, new breeds were developed when a group or individual attempted to create a new dog for a specific purpose. The breeding program was contained. But the cat is out of the bag, so to speak; every Tom, Dick and Harriet can create their own doddle without regard to physical being...just monetary being.

Which brings to mind these favorites:


Possible dog crosses:
Collie + Lhasa Apso - Collapso, a dog that folds up for easy transport
Pointer + Setter - Pointsetter, a traditional Christmas pet
Great Pyrenees + Dachshund - Pyradachs, a puzzling breed
Pekingese + Lhasa Apso - Peekasso, an abstract dog
Newfoundland + Basset Hound - Newfound Asset Hound, a dog for financial advisors
Terrier + Bulldog -Terribull, a dog that makes awful mistakes
Bloodhound + Labrador - Blabador, a dog that barks incessantly
Malamute + Pointer -Moot Point, owned by.... oh, well, it doesn't matter anyway
Collie + Malamute - Commute, a dog that travels to work
Deerhound + Terrier - Derriere, a dog that's true to the end
Bull Terrier + Shitzu - Oh, never mind....
Retriever + Irish Setter - Resetter, a dog that can set your vcr for you


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New Names For Dogs Part 2 Or Doggy Deux
What dog loves to take bubble baths ?
A shampoodle
What dogs are best for sending telegrams ?
Wire haired terriers
What do you call a happy Lassie ?
A jolly collie
What do you call a nutty dog in Australia ?
A dingo-ling
What kind of dog sniffs out new flowers ?
A bud hound
Good One Susan!!

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We first purchased a goldendoodle for the sake of my brothers harsh allergies, seeing how they are to be heard of as non-shedding dogs. But, that is definitely not the case. Other than that, my goldendoodle is the best dog i have ever had. He'll be turning 6 this summer, and is in great health. Snicker has not been hard to train, whatsoever. Though in his early puppy years, he was a serious chewer (what pup isn't?). He has such a genuine personality and never disobeys. I've had the experience with quite a bit of different dogs and the Goldendoodle would be first on my list of recommendations. He is both a great family dog and enjoys one-on-one time. Snick is great with small children as well as being one of the most gentle beings i have came across. LOVE MY DOODLE!
Wow,, really surprised by all the negative responses about goldendoodles. I have a male goldendoodle, and while he's playful, he is NOT hyper or out of control, and he doesn't shed. He loves to curl up on the couch with us, and watch TV. Sometimes, he's a little hyper when another animal is on the tube, or when someone rings the doorbell. But other than that, he likes to snooze all day.
I have a two and a half year old English Goldendoodle and He is sweet as can be and was really easy to train. I don't know why these other folks have hyper ones, but we trained Our boy at K-9 basics who trains Police dogs and they were constantly saying how much they love training Goldendoodles because they are so smart and easy to train. Our boy loves to be petted, is great with the kids, and is definitely not hyper.... We absolutely love that he doesn't shed as well. A friend of ours also has a goldendoodle that is a super dog as well. I would DEFINITELY get another Goldendoodle...they are Awesome companions! Of course if you don't train your dog, similar to not raising your kids well...it doesn't matter the dog type, they'll be out of control...
what mix is an english goldendoodle?
I have a Goldendoodle F1B and I purchased this dog for the reason that he is non-allgergenic. He has a beautiful coat and I can verify 100% that he does not shed. I have a husband and son that have severe allergies and our dog would not still be with us if he shed. The F1 doodles have little shedding but the F1B's do not. (google F1B for details).

The Goldendoodle is a mix breed of two very intelligent dogs, the Golden Retriever and Poodle. My dog is smart and very trainable. He is 8 months old and I will admit he can be a challenge at times but that's because he is a puppy, not because of his breed. Goldendoodles are known to be (counter snatchers) they will take anything that is left within their reach. He is active, playful and curious because he is a puppy, not because he is a a Goldendoodle.

The Goldendoodle is a "Designer Dog" and yes, they can be expensive. I paid $900 for mine and he was worth every penny. Some Goldendoodle's sell between $500 to $2,500. Do your homework....Breeders.com can help you find a Goldendoddle within your state and within your price range.

I just wanted to clear up the mis-conception of this particular breed. I will never purchase a different breed than a Goldendoodle. I have never heard anyone that owns a Goldendoodle complain about this breed. Puppies are not easy....they take time, commitment and patience.
Most of my fellow groomers intensely dislike working with Goldendoodles, between having some lines matting terribly and the difficulty handling the dogs in the salon. Some groomers will not work on one without an additional handling fee (to cover help from an assistant). They also dread hearing "don't make him look like a poodle," b/c the owners are often dissappointed no matter what b/c some golden doodles grow up to look far more like the poodle parent. We actually had two abandoned at our salon last year (leave the dog for "the works" & not pick them up :( )
I have a 7 month old F1 Goldendoodle puppy. Huge mistake! He is difficult to train, impossible to tire out. He is smart and gets bored easily. A bored 75 pound dog is extremely destructive. He can't be left alone unless he is in his pen or crated. He is never off leash. He chases cats and kills chickens. I hate having a dog that cannot enjoy some freedom on the ranch. I grew up with an OES. As an adult I have always owned working border collies and welsh corgis. I got the doodle because I wanted a dog that didn't need to have a job. I have a love/hate relationship with this dog. I would rehome him but I'm afraid he will have a sad ending. It's my responsibility to own him for life. I will never get another. I'm a very experienced dog owner that unfortunately got sucked in the doodle hype.
So here's what we can take away from this entire thread in five words...

Mixed breed = crap shoot

If you're into potentially high stakes gambling where there are lives involved, get one.

Vance
I still don't believe that just because it's a mixed breed dog, that it's automatically going to be bad.
Bad breeding is bad breeding, whether we're talking Goldendoodles or OESs.
What makes it more pronounced in these mixed breed designer dogs is 1) there are no standards for them, so people breed whatever they have handy, and 2)people can make big money breeding them, so they breed whatever they have handy. Either way, it's the breeding, not the breed.

And I've said it before and I'll say it again, my sister's goldendoodle is AWESOME!! Great temperment, very tractable, good looking dog, too. She would not hesitate to get another from her breeder.
Mark, I for one didn't say it was a bad thing. I said its like gambling... When lives are involved. Anyone who has gambled, from a simple $1 scratch-off ticket to a high stakes poker game knows that you can win. But there are odds and known risks; that is if you do your due diligence and use your brain. This is why we've always recommend folks go for a pure bred dog from a breeder who knows what they're doing and has a history to prove it.

As you said, it's all about the breeding. If you find someone passionate about the breed you want, (and not in it for the cash), then run with it; regardless of the breed, mixed or pure. But if you find you end up with an uncontrollable ball of spastic energy, you took the risk and now have a life that you've bet on and lost.

Vance
I have a Golden Doodle.He is 5 1/2 months old and we absolutely love him. He makes us laugh. Very hyper, but what puppy isn't. He is so good. In the 3 months we've had him he has learned to come when called, sit, give us paws, lay down. Now we are teaching him to get down and not jump on everyone that comes over......he gets so excited when someone comes over. He is very smart and can teach him anything with a treat. He rings the chime on the back door when he wants to go out..and when I want him in his crate I just say get in the crate you get a treat and he goes right in. He is quite the little digger I do have large trenches in the yard and bad weather does not deter him with going outside......loves the rain and the snow..pretty funny. I just feel that you need to be very very firm and consistent with them because they are highly intelligent and are alpha type dogs that need to be controlled. GOOD LUCK to anyone that decides to get a golden doodle......we are glad we decided to take the leap and purchased him from a great breeder in our township where we live. I kept him gated in the main area of the kitchen for about 2 months....he now is never gated and can roam the whole house......knock on wood the worst thing he does is pull the tissues out of all the trash cans and shows me he has it but by the time i go to take it out of his mouth he swallows it...LOL. I've had other dogs and usually they have chewed someones shoes before they were 1year old usually friends that came over to swim and left their flip flops..lol and had to go home with one and half of one. So far, I really can't complain except the way he jumps on everyone when they come thru the door......this we are working on.
I met my first Goldendoodle at the vets last Friday. He was 3 years old and his coat was cut back. He was a beautiful boy and very sweet.

Regarding the dogs jumping on people. If you are expecting guest to come over, once they arrive, before they come in the door, put the dog in another room. Once the people are settled let the dog out with everyone and it is usually easier to control them, the dog I mean not the guest. I also found, with the oes, if someone arrived and came right in. if you/guest put you hand on the dog's head, they can jump. I tell the dog "four on the floor" and surprisingly, it has worked. I'm sure you'll get a lot more good advise from this forum. Good luck with your pup.
violet wrote:
I tell the dog "four on the floor" and surprisingly, it has worked.


I thought I was the only one who did that! I started that with Benson when she was still a puppy. It has worked extremely well.
juliet1920 wrote:
Hi everyone

I have been thinking about a goldendoodle puppy, buy I don't know anything
about their personalities. Look foward to hearing from you.


Wow, I can't believe all the negative responses to goldendoodles. We bought ours 8 years ago, and he is the sweetest, most gentle and faithful loving dog one could ask for. Not to mention GORGEOUS. Wherever we go, he's a star. And he's really good with people. While there are certain moments when he's hyper (sees animals on TV, the doorbell rings, we walk in the door), he is mostly what we describe as a fluffy white bathmat. He can sleep for hours at a time. He doesn't shed, nor does he have pet odors. My friends and family are amazed at what a 'clean' dog he is. When we take him to the vet, they always say he is the best behaved dog - just lays there while he's being picked and prodded. He was easy to train (house broken in 2 days & whenever we take walks, if I accidentally drop his leash, he automatically stops. We let him outside in our un-fenced backyard to do his business, and afterwards, he always comes trotting back to the door. I will say he does NOT like to be alone. Whenever we have to go somewhere that doesn't allow dogs, he grows so forlorn that it's hard to leave him. So if you're someone who isn't home a lot, don't buy a goldendoodle. They are people dogs, and need a lot of companionship. Fortunately for our pup, there are always at least 2 or 3 of us in the house, so he's a happy doodle, indeed. Anyway, that's my 2 cents on goldendoodles or at least my goldendoodle. I absolutely adore him! Too bad I can't insert a picture of what he's doing right - lounging. ;-)
Hi, I think we must be lucky, I'm in the UK and have a 11mth boy 70 lb goldendoodle, having had a briard for 14 yrs the goldendoodle seems quite small. He goes for walks in the morning about 1 1/2 miles, eats then sleeps until 3 pm. Often comes into my office at work and lazes around. Great with other dogs and people and isn't moulting. He is calm and placid so no complaints there, the only issue we have is he does smell when wet!.
Oh, my! Where do I begin.. we just got our
Goldendoodle - - she is more than a handful! She bites (bleeding & brusing) and barks, growls, etc. She almost acts psychotic at times - - it's really stressful & I'm beginning to regret paying $2,000 for her - - plus the crate, puppy gate, food, toys, etc. Lots of money. I want to relay my experience to others because I wish I saw this thread before commiting to this breed. Prepare for a hyper dog. My friend has one, she is hyper as well. They shed more than they let on.. breeders way of selling. Also, do not go with Almond Blossom Doodles! They do not communicate with you throughout the process. Dont be foolded by their website! They also charge more than average..

If I were to do this all over, I would not get such a small puppy, not a Goldendoodle.
AnInnocentEvil wrote:
They are a designer dog. Which means they take 2 pure bred parents from different breeds cross them to get a mutt with a fancy name. People that do this are only looking to fatten their wallets, bybers. If you really want one go to the pound, they are about $1,450.00 cheaper and the pound includes a free spay or neuter,shots and a wellness check.


Mutt? Every breed of dog was a mutt when it first appeared by crossing two different inbred dogs(originally wolves) for certain qualities.
Seriously? YES a MUTT. In my home town I see new mutts every
single day with"designer" names. This is truly disgusting. The other
day I saw a sign for a Corlaski. A corgi/alaskan malamute. In most
cases these are puppy millers or byb's throwing two dogs together
for shock and/or cute name factor and charging outrageous prices
without ever having to do any of the real work or reputable breeding.
I will give you that we have created our breeds. Some, like golden
doodles may have value beyond our akc recognized breeds,
but I don't think that's the majority of the time. Unless the breeder is
doing things differently, doing the testing etc, you are just as likely to get
a gem of a dog with the characteristics you are looking for in a mutt- or
shelter dog. Often the designer breeders are turning out litters full of
hyper dogs, aggression issues, health problems and so on.
So yes, mutts. Doesn't mean you will love yours less, but caveat emptor!

Shellie
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