Guess the author!

OK, I've got an idea. Might work, probably won't.

Someone posts a quote from someone famous and everyone tries to guess who it is.
Now in this day and age virtually any quote can be found in under 5 seconds, so this has to be on the honor system... Googling (or any search for the quote) is cheating!

Now here's an interesting thing I want to try. Hints, questions and answers and guesses!
The Original poster can give a hint or hints as her or she sees fit. I'm thinking we can also add in Yes or No questions like in "20 questions". The original poster should answer them.

If you know who it is, feel free to jump in with the answer OR if you think it will be more fun, just brag with an "I know, I know!" and hold on to it. Or not.
Let's see how this goes!

Since we have been talking about art and artists and so forth, that brought to mind a quote from my dusty old memory banks.
Guess the speaker...
Quote:
[...] art establishes the basic human truth which must serve as the touchstone of our judgment.

The artist, however faithful to his personal vision of reality, becomes the last champion of the individual mind and sensibility against an intrusive society and an officious state. The great artist is thus a solitary figure. He has, as Frost said, a lover's quarrel with the world. In pursuing his perceptions of reality, he must often sail against the currents of his time.

Hint: From a speech in October 1963, in honor of the poet Robert Frost. Frost had died in January of that year.
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At first I thought you were talking about taking quotes from OES Forum posts, and then we guess the author!

This one will require more thought.
Just guessing here- either JFK or MLK - can't say for sure
without looking it up. My kingdom for a brain today...

Shellie
Yeah, Shellie, I agree........but I'm not saying which one. I remember the event.....the Robt. Frost honoring at ......oops, I'm not saying.
On this one I have not a clue!
JFK it is! My how times have changed.

Next?
Indeed, it was JFK at Amherst College.

how about this one?


The whole history of the world is summed up in the fact that, when nations are strong, they are not always just, and when they wish to be just, they are no longer strong.
That's a pretty sad truism. :-( No idea of the speaker.
Oh man, am I good or what?! That was even several years
before I was even born.
I remember a few years ago a bunch of us played this in the chat room here.....
(Man I miss those days.)

Shellie
(anyone notice I even forgot how to spell my name in the last post?DUH!)
"The whole history of the world is summed up in the fact that, when nations are strong, they are not always just, and when they wish to be just, they are no longer strong."

I never gave the answer to the above, sorry. It was Winston Churchill.......you know the guy Obama banished from the Oval Office.

Continuing in the political genre, how about:

“Everything government touches turns to crap.”

You'll laugh when you find out who it is.
Can we add 20 questions to this?

Is it a cartoon character?

(Normally in 20 questions, I'd start broadly with something like "Is the speaker male?" then maybe "Still alive??" and so on, but for some reason I am fixated on this coming out of a cartoon's mouth.)
OK, hints:

Male
British
Still alive
......and not a politician, :lol:
Sean Connery?
Oh wait, he's Scottish....
Don't ruin my image of Sean saying "crap" though I'm sure he could say it with style.

This person was appointed Member of the Order of the British Empire (MBE), 12 June 1965....he was one of four that day.
Had to have been one of the Beatles meaning that it's either Paul or Ringo, since they are the only ones still alive.
Heh! I came back online specifically to say that I think the hint of "4" made me know it! I wasn't going to say anything else, but since it's out there already, I was going to guess it was a Beatle... I was thinking it was John Lennon, but forgot she said he was still alive! LOL

I'm not at the top of my game I guess!
It is a Beatle.......it's Ringo.
OK, I've got one...and as a hint, it's totally different than the previous ones...so get ready history buffs!

"So far as I'm concerned, if they are hungry, let them eat grass or their own dung"
Yipes! OK, let's think our way down this one:

A person of responsibility

Grass and dung.......that's puts in pre 20th century....that and using dung instead of c*** or s***

Why grass and not hay...... :lmt: Grazing land.

Question: this country hemisphere or elsewhere.......(I'm thinking Mongolia for example)
Grazing land is correct - getting warmer. And it's North America.

And I'm heading out for some activities - I'll try and check in before supper time!
Don't know the author, but am fairly sure it was regarding Native Americans. I am absolutely terrible with names.
I don't have a name, but I think I have it........helps being married to a Minnesota boy and a history fanatic:

According to dh: (first he doesn't remember the dung part, just "let them eat grass")

The Sioux Indians heard about a big war back East and figured the army was otherwise occupied so rumbled about their near starvation status. The local Indian agent (missing name) said, "Let them eat grass........(and dung?)" The Indians revolted and within 24 hours had killed 800 people.....and the agent (name unknown) was found scalped and grass in his mouth.

President Lincoln sent a disgraced Civil War general (John Pope) to quell the uprising...which he did. (And Villard, Minnesota home to DH's family) is in Pope County. But I digress.....200 Sioux were captured, but President Lincoln pardoned all but 35(?). Those 35 were hung in the largest single mass hanging in.............Monkato, MN.

But I don't have the guy's name..........
Yep - you got it ...and I can be a phonetical pun as they were "Sioux"

And tell hubby I didn't remember the dung part either, but did include it for historical accuracy :wink:

Here's your history lesson synopsis:

Minnesota Indian Uprising "Let Them Eat Grass" August 17 - December 26, 1862

On August 15, 1862, Santee Sioux Chief Little Crow went to the Indian Agency located on the Minnesota River to ask government agent Thomas J. Galbraith to distribute the Indians' government-stockpiled provisions to his hungry people. "We have no food, but here are these stores filled with food", he yelled at Galbraith. "So far as I'm concerned, if they are hungry, let them eat grass or their own dung", reported trading post operator Andrew J. Myrick. The angry Indians left, but a few days later Myrick's corpse was found- with grass stuffed in his mouth.

The Santee Sioux had lived in Minnesota for hundreds of years before 1851, when the U.S. government forced them to give up their 24-million-acre hunting ground and live in a reservation on the Minnesota River. Seven years later the United States swindled them out of half of the reservation land. The provisions and annuities the Santee were promised never seemed to get through the graft-ridden government agency. The Santee finally had enough of the white man and decided that with the United States engaged in the Civil War, the time had come to reclaim their land. Little Crow knew the Santee had little chance of defeating the U.S. Army; however, he told his braves, "Little Crow is not a coward; he will die with you!"

By the end of September the Sioux uprising in Minnesota was mostly over, though other Sioux tribes in neighboring territories had taken to the warpath. The U.S. troops who were rushed to Minnesota contained the uprising, but not before 800 white settlers had been murdered and several million dollars' worth of property had been destroyed. Of 2,000 Indians captured and tried, a military board sentenced 303 to be hanged. President Abraham Lincoln reviewed the list and trimmed it to 38. The United States' largest public mass execution was held December 26, 1862, when the 38 Indians were hanged.

*********************************

It was actually a fitting timing, as I was at our local shelter's big event today - held at "Land of Memories" park, the historical setting of the Sioux uprising along the Minnesota River. There are still annual indian pow wows held here.

Horrible atrocities were done to the indians during this time, not a proud period in American history. :(
Wow, I'm impressed Paul remembered so much! Historical stuff, yeah, but everyday things, nope........never sticks. :roll:
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