Puppy?

Pooh Bear had crossed the Rainbow Bridge over 1 month already. We are still missing him terribly. Seriously considering a new dog. I need some input from everyone. I feel strange (but wanting) another sheepdog....almost feel guilty for replacing him with another. Did anyone feel the same with their new ones? Do I try a different breed? After having a non-shedding sheepdog, I would like a non-shedder again. What is the standard fee for getting a puppy? Pooh Bear was a gift, so I'm not sure how much the average cost is. We have a breeder not too far from us (around 50 miles) that was supposed to have a litter on the 31st of July. Her puppies are $800.00. Is this about what they go for?
We feel so lost without our Pooh. I can't believe the emptiness without him around. We brought home his ashes. Shed alot of tears again. Still am writing this.
Miss my Bear! :cry:
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After my Taylor passed I knew I wanted another dog but wasn't sure about the timing of it. Dexter seemed depressed and so after 3 weeks I started looking. I had naver had a sheepdog before but had always had rescue dogs. After doing my research I knew they were for me. If costs are a concern you might consider a rescue. Not to say that they might not have health issues which could cost $$$ in the long run but so far I have been very lucky with all 3 of my rescues. Bella is a dream and may have some mild joint issues which we manage with cosaiquin as a preventitive. Make sure all the tests have been done on the parents since saving a few bucks up front without testing of the parents to me is just like my Bella....a treasure but big ????? when it comes to her parents and their health. Bella's adoption fee was only 200$ which I thought was very reasonable. I may end up having vet fees I didn't anticipate but we all run that risk no matter where the pup comes from.
My fastest record for getting another was under 24 hours! I consider the absolute need to have a new dog a testimony to the deceased dog. He/she was such an integral part of my life I could not go on. You are not "dissing" Pooh Bear's memory, quite the contrary, you are acknowledging your love and the hole left in your life. You know a new pup won't be Pooh Bear, but some new worm that will crawl into your heart. Pooh will always be with you, it is just our ability to expand our heart and love that we can take on another......and another....and another.

Your decision about the breed. After 42 years with OES, it would seem strange not to have a grey bear about....except Jack is more a Holstein than a bear.
Pooh Bear will never be replaced in your heart. His part of your heart is his forever, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't make room for another.

We started looking for a puppy a few weeks after Quincy passed away. We thought we would wait, but we just couldn't as the house was just too empty. Quincy died April 2. Oscar was born May 1. We brought him home July 10.

We love OES, with all of their crazy quirks and grooming requirements. OES are our breed. Unless something extraordinary occurs, we will always have sheepdogs. If that's what you love, then get another sheepdog.

Rescue is a great idea, if you don't want to deal with the puppy stage again. You also know how large the dog is going to be, as well as a general idea of temperament.

Hugs to you on your recent loss, and hope you find another pup that helps you heal.

:ghug:

Laurie and Oscar
I agree that once you've loved a dog, especially an oes, you need to fill the hole in your heart again. After we lost Apache, we found a puppy that was from a brand new liter, we had to wait of course but it was one of the happiest day of my life when we traveled to MI to get Farley. He never replaced Apache but we knew he wouldn't. After we lost Farley it took me three years to get Butchy because Tripper was very happy being the only kid. We had a chance to get Butchy and since we're older it was now or never. Tripper accepted him, we made sure of that first, but he definitely is boss. Now Tripper is not doing well and it's a matter of time with him but at least we have Butchy to get thru another loss.
I know the OES is the breed for me. I always wanted one since I've been little and my son and wife surprised me with Pooh 12 years ago. I've noticed a 7 year old rescue that I've been tempted since he seems so mellow like Pooh. Trouble is living in Wisconsin, I don't seem to have too many options of where to get one too close. I had emailed one breeder yesterday who had puppies and she was willing to meet us 1/2 way of the over 700 miles. Have to think that one over. Pooh was my husband's car riding buddy, never went anywhere without him. He just put his butt on the seat like an human and they were off! My husband is lost without him, too. I miss the little bit of cuddling Pooh would do with me when I went to bed. He would just climb up by me, snuggle with his head on my chest and be there for a few minutes and went back off the bed. I miss that.
Late in the evening the day we put Bentley down, Jen asked me if I wanted another dog. I immediately said yes as I knew there may be issues with Zoey being alone. She then asked me if I wanted another sheepie and again, I immediately said yes. Her response was simple. she was glad I said that as she didn't think she could own another breed. She said sheepies 'do' something to you. Like you've been spoiled and no other dog will do. I think she's right. We miss Bentley far more then we expected, but little Caitlyn will melt your heart just as fast. We never regret getting another sheepie and we're glad we didn't wait; both for us and for Zoey.

Vance
I agree that sheepies 'do' something to you. They can be stubborn, but there is nothing like them. It may be that their faces always have that puppy look to them. You don't see the 'aging' grey hairs like in other breeds. Pooh Bear was lucky to keep a dark version and not turn greyish like a lot of OES's, so he just seemed like a big old puppy and I do mean big. He was very tall and when we put him down, he slimmed down to 114 lbs. He was always so good with babies especially since he wasn't raised with them. He would just give the baby grandkids a kiss and off he went! Now just to find one!
Keep looking! Good folks like you get what they need.

Vance
Your feelings are are perfectly normal. When I lost Ben to cancer on Nov. 29th last year he was just 2 months shy of his 5th birthday. I missed him so much and still do, and was so sad I was seriously thinking how could I go thru the pain of losing another dog. But I also know how much I love this breed and couldn't imagine my life without another sheepdog to share my love with.

It was just a little over a month, at the beginning of the year, that I decided that I should start finding breeders that might have puppies available for spring or early summer. My grief and sadness was still so fresh but I knew I had to move forward and start my search. At the top of my list was Teddy's breeder Karen. I called her on the evening of Jan. 12th and spoke with her husband. He said she was in bed early because she was up all the night before helping with the birth of her puppies and to call back the next day. Well there was my sign! They were born on 1-11-11, which is not only a cool birthdate but also my dad's birthdate.

Here is a copy of an email I sent out to my friends on Jan. 18th about dreams I had which reflects my feelings at that time;

Hi Everyone,

I thought you would like to hear about the weird dream I had about a week ago and then again last night. It's weird it happened almost the same way both times. The dream started with a call from the vet about Ben. They asked when I could come and pick him up and I said he was supposed to be shipped to which they responded "but he's standing here and waiting" and I asked do you have the right dog? They said yes, he's alive and well and ready to go home. I said how can that be, I held him when he died. They said they tried something new that they were doing and he is alive and well and cancer free. I don't remember picking him up but the next thing I remember was having him with me out in the yard and I remember Dick and Linda walking over to see him and then that's all I remember from the dreams.

I didn't think much about it until I had it again last night. I just thought I had the dream the first time because I'm so sad and miss Ben so much and want him back with me. But now that I think about it, I had that dream the first time a few days before I called about a puppy. Then I had it again last night which is about a week from the first time I had the dream and I've had these feelings for the past week. I am excited to pick out a puppy but I'm still having some mixed feelings. I'm looking forward to the puppy but I'm still not over losing Ben and feel somewhat guilty and kind of like a traitor to him. I know it's silly and I shouldn't feel this way, but I do. I do believe things happen for a reason, but I still feel like I was robbed because he was taken from me so young.

So now I'm thinking the first time I had the dream was a sign for calling about a puppy and it was meant to be the right time and having it again last night was a sign from Ben that it's okay to be happy and his spirit will be in the new puppy. That's how I, interpret it anyway. Well, that's my thoughts for the day.


Your Pooh Bear will always be in your heart and the guilt feeling is normal. He would want you to be happy and give your love to another deserving sheepie. I wish you luck on your search for your new sheepie baby!

:ghug: :ghug:

Cindy
I cannot even put into words the loss I felt when Patch died unexpectedly - she succumbed to bloat in the middle of the night on January 24, 2011. To say I was devastated is putting it lightly. I literally wailed every night for 2 months when I got home, the grief was terrible - my home turned into an empty shell. On May 5, 2011, Olive walked into my life - she is 180 degrees from my bull-in-the-china-shop, Patch, but I would never want to "replace" my dog. Olive is dainty, doesn't flood the floor when taking a drink, chews every morsel of food, and is just being herself. I, inadvertantly, compare her to Patch now and then, but I love her with all my heart. And, to continue Patch's good works, Olive will be certifying as a therapy dog in October. I firmly believe it is a compliment to Pooh and to Patch that we get another dog - they brought such love into our lives that we want another.

Good luck with you search, the right one will come into your life.
When we lost our first, BRANDON, I couldn't be in the house alone. I'd wait on the step for my hubby to come home from work. Then I found out he was hanging out at work extra late to be sure he wasn't in the house alone. BRANDON's death, at the age of six, was unexpected and really hard to take.

I lasted three days before I was looking for breeders online. On the fifth day I phoned a lady who had a litter that was already five weeks old. We decided on two, drove out a week later to meet her, put down a deposit, and drove back two weeks later to pick up Portage and ThePas. They were not a replacement, but they did help ease the pain a little, and their names were chosen to honor BRANDON. (All three are references to towns in our province). By the way, each of these `little drives` out to get them were six hours each way. The heart wants what the heart wants.

When Theeps passed away we knew Portage was devastated, and we started looking for another a few weeks later. We put a deposit on Hudson (still keeping the naming rules) and he arrived about five weeks later.

When Portage passed away we still had Hudson, who was less than a year old. Hudson seemed to really enjoy being an only, and we thought about keeping it to one dog, but I met a rescue dog that a family member had adopted over Christmas and decided we needed another. I would have brought him home that minute, but it took nearly a month to find a rescue that had a sheepie and that would ship long distance. Shortly after that, Rudy arrived. We kept his name from the rescue (but officially changed it to Ruddock, after a small area in Northern Manitoba that is uninhabited except for a few caribou.)

BRANDON was the sheepie who started it all. He was actually a cross and no one knew who his daddy was...the gate got left open. We call him the best forty bucks we ever spent.

We love sheepies, and we owe all that to BRANDON. We would eagerly have opened our homes to another cross sheepie, but there weren`t any around that we could find, and we have been really happy with all the ones we`ve been lucky enough to be owned by.

You will know in your heart when you want another and what kind. I do think sheepies are special, but if that is not the route you go that is fine too. Just make sure that you are doing what you want to do, and not what you feel you should do. Nothing you choose will be disrespectful to your previous dog`s memory. It is a testament to how wonderful Pooh Bear was that you might want another of the same breed.
We've gotten bassets and oes basically when we lost one or the other. After we lost Tiny, first basset, I found a liter in our area and we got Dudley Kismet Longfellow, basset, after Button the mutt died we found Apache, he came from a family that had oes and had papers but no great lines. Dudley died when he was about 11 years old and Apache would not tolerate other dogs after that, we now know if was a fear thing like Rudy but did not know that at the time so he was an only. After we lost him we did the unforgiveable and found Tripper at a pet store, my husband saw no other dogs but the one with Kennel Cough etc so home he came. Later found out he probably was a puppy mill baby but he was home. A few wks later we got Farley the 2nd oes, lost him at just over seven and like I said previously we weren't going to get another one because Tripper is quite bossy but old age hanging over my head I saw Butchy advertised in the paper and we went. He has no papers etc but he's healthy and he's loved a great deal.
The thing that spurred me on to get Butchy was an oes was featured on the noon news as available in Green Bay, her name was Snowflake and we contacted them but being 60 miles away someone beat us to her. Sad thing is she was there for several days but I never went on the site. I new the puppies were advertised in the local paper and they had one male left and I grabbed at the chance to have him.

No regrets with any of them.
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