Sybil - exc std run - NQ
http://youtu.be/8s_Y5ZScrNw I swear Lisa had taped at least one of her jumpers runs, and I think I recall watching it on her camera, but I could be dreaming. She's much more fun to run in jumpers <g> and can apparently hit the weave entrances there, go figure  This isn't the one where she molested the judge, but it's entertaining in its own right. Kristine |
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 You both are having fun! That girl can concentrate! Of course we'd love to see her molest the judge |
SheepieBoss wrote: :banana: You both are having fun! That girl can concentrate! I know! Are you as shocked as I am???  KB  |
| Sybil was having an "off" day.....she forgot she is suppose to be a pain in the pa-toot. Not really, she thinks......it's just sometimes she thinks incorrectly......"the judge needs to see how pretty I am.....I'm going to show her" or "I don't like the lay out, I'm leaving." |
SheepieBoss wrote: Sybil was having an "off" day.....she forgot she is suppose to be a pain in the pa-toot. Not really, she thinks......it's just sometimes she thinks incorrectly......"the judge needs to see how pretty I am.....I'm going to show her" or "I don't like the lay out, I'm leaving." Well, we did have that discussion in front of the weaves which was blessedly blocked by the A-frame. She entered after the second or third or whatever pole and really got into it, and was thoroughly PUT OUT when I called her back to start again. Obviously I was WRONG. I'm wrong a lot, according to her She's coming along nicely though, and she's been running pretty solidly in jumpers. I rarely "correct" her sister as I'm just focusing on building her confidence. I give them a lot of grief and call them PITAs or blondielocks respectively, but the truth of the matter is that they both HATE, HATE, HATE to be wrong. Very soft and fundamentally biddable at their core, which makes them much harder to run than their mother who never gave a damn and just ran like the devil was on her heels and took whatever was in front of her. I might as well have stayed home half the time, for all she noticed I was out there Sybil's getting to the point where I can demand a bit more of her, but I only started trialing Mace last fall, so it's kid gloves for now. It's always a process, no matter what the dog. And they're all different.Kristine |
Wow  What a beautiful girl....and an athlete!!! |
Millielover wrote: Wow What a beautiful girl....and an athlete!!!Aw, thank you  I'll let you in on a "secret" though - you can't tell so easily with all that hair, but she's, eh, not so beautiful. I mean, she has a better head than her sister (Macy), but her sister has the reach and drive (referring to the mechanics of what makes a dog move the way she does) and the superior length of neck. Sybil's shoulder is actually kind of steep, and she has the shorter neck that generally goes with it. It should technically make the spread jumps (triples, doubles) harder for her than her sister, but what she lacks in forward momentum she makes up for with springs in her knees or something. She's hilarious to watch. And, yes, personally, I do think she is beautiful in her own way, just not in an ideal way. It's Macy that's built like an athlete. And if you saw them in play, you'd see the difference. She can be in a flat out run, and because of her build she effortlessly covers ground, and do a 360 in the air and never miss a beat. I LOVE watching her move when she's on her own time. Poetry in motion. Now to convince her to use the body she was given. Sybil...is surprisingly athletic given her build. They're both balanced (the angulation in the front and rear is equal) and that really is key. She can get away with more because of it, but the lack of angulation still a shortcoming for her. No dog is perfect. Just don't tell HER that  Kristine |
| ^^^^^^^^^ Huh?  I am really blonde when it comes to conformation. I don't know if I will ever be able to see or understand that stuff. Hell agility is visual (that helps me) and I still don't get it.  If I ever get into conformation - none of you guys will have the patience to mentor me.  Now out of that ADD detour and onto the run.... WOWZA - you guys looked great.  She is wonderful. I will just take your word on the tales you tell as there was no evidence on tape that she is anything but agreeable. I wonder what was going on behind that A-frame with those poles. Thanks for explaining and explaining why you do and don't correct them. BTW your front crosses on the course are so smooth with both girls.    Do you wonder what kind of agility dog we would have got if we had bred Harry with Sybil?  With only their worst flaws in just one puppy? |
SheepieMommy wrote: ^^^^^^^^^Do you wonder what kind of agility dog we would have got if we had bred Harry with Sybil? With only their worst flaws in just one puppy? Why do you think I looked under his hood so to speak in St Louis to see if it was still a possibility?!!  Next time you have a nice boy dog you can't stand to not snip-snip, for god's sake have him collected first and keep it on ice, just in case! In fairness, you had no way of knowing. Of course, there would be no homes except yours and mine who could stand to live with the resulting puppies, and with my luck there would have been 13 of them Kristine |
| Great job! Cindy |
Mad Dog wrote: SheepieMommy wrote: Of course, there would be no homes except yours and mine who could stand to live with the resulting puppies, and with my luck there would have been 13 of them Kristine Not true. One of those puppies would fit right in here at Chateau Loony Sheepie! I keep telling Judi that Tiggy and Harry are soul mates in madness. I can't decide whether putting them together in the same space would be fantastic or just very, very dangerous for everyone's legs. |
| WOW!!!! That was beautiful!! I mean, Wow!!! She makes everything look easy... I am just amazed at how she can instantaneously take the subtle ques you give and put it into motion during a fast paced high energy run like this. There are so many different things to do, so many distractions! And YOU were running as fast as the dog! Now that's teamwork! Wonderful way to start the day.  I sheepishly clicked on the video and I immediately went into high energy mode! |
Thanks for posting the video, Jill. I don't understand the first thing about this sport, but I do see the hard work and amazing results  ! I could watch her jump and run all day. |
| Camera angle was tougher on this run, Mace's run was easier to see the course. I love the hidden weaves...... Sybil was so happy, love to watch her run  And that was a missed jump between the 2 yellow tunnels, wasn't it? The one w/ the front cross and then behind the dogwalk for the 2nd tunnel? Nice run though - almost had it!! How did they do w/ FAST and T2B added into the weekend? I have a trial over Labor Day, and has all 4 offered. I finally decided just to do STD, JWW and FAST. We haven't trialed much and I wasn't sure. Also, this is our 1st chance since Nationals last fall at FAST, so I decided to concentrate and get the Q if possible. We've only had 2 opportunities to enter, and Q'd on both. I'd like to finish that Novice title that's been dangling out there.... |
| Yes, she missed the depressed angle jump between the two tunnels. I didn't anticipate how far out of the tunnel she'd come before she'd start the turn and then, too, I spectated at the tunnel. Had I hauled butt out of there even 1/4 of a second earlier, and then held the cross till I knew I had her committed to the jump, she probably would have taken it. Though she might have mowed me down in the process I already covered my reason for not "fixing" it in my reply to Judi. On Saturday they started out with Exc FAST in one ring, Open Fast in the other, followed by novice FAST. Then they ran Exc std in the Exc Fast ring, followed by Open and then Novice std; and Novice, then Open, then excellent jumpers in the other as I recall in the other. The jumpers ring predictably finished earlier and that's where we ran T2B both days. They didn't offer FAST on Sunday. I think they may have on Friday, but I wasn't there. Personally I think it would have been nice to run T2B first when the dogs were fresher as it is more of a "steeplechase" type design. Fun courses. Mind you, timing wise it worked out nicely as is, so I'm really not sure what they'll do in the future. I have to say I do like the class and take back my previous complaint that they should have instituted something more strategy oriented. There are NO COURSE changes. All level dogs run on the same course. This makes your course builders VERY happy Kristine |
Very cool  I've always wondered how you guys know where to go, which thing to do next |
Willowsprite wrote: Very cool I've always wondered how you guys know where to go, which thing to do next Well, some times you don't. As in, you forget where the heck you're going. But what happens is this: they build the course, and you get to walk it for about 8 minutes before you run, sans dog (as a group - so if you're in a big class you sometimes don't run it till 1-2 hours after you walked it, and at the upper levels you sometimes have a hard time seeing the course for handlers, though the club/judge will generally split the walk thrus so you have a fair shot at seeing what you're supposed to be doing. All they determine is the course. How you get from 1 to 2 to...is up to you and that's where strategy and knowing your dog comes in. It would be rare to see a course handled 100% the same way by any two handlers, even if variations may be small in some cases. It's all about running clean and fast, there are no style points, so whatever works for you and your dog, within the constraints of the basic rules of the venue/class. In AKC they are required to both (a) post the courses somewhere conspicuous (but not before day of trial at the earlies) and also supply copies for obsessives to obsess over. Me, I just show the course map to Sybil and rely on her to remember:  Well, actually, that's a lie. Chances are she could remember it, but equally good she wouldn't care and would just make up her own course. So it comes down to handler memorization. You have to remember the order of the obstacles/the path you're running and where you want to switch sides/put in a cross - sometimes it's advantageous to handle with the dog on your left, some times on your right. To get from one side to the other you have handy handling moves known as crosses, the most common being the front cross (where you change sides in front of your dog), the rear cross (where you change sides while running behind your dog) and the blind cross, where you switch sides in front of the dog without actually turning to face the dog at any point, rather you cross the path in front of the dog and drop your shoulder back on the new side to pick them up there. Some times if your timing is off, or the OES has already decided on another course that wasn't designated by the judge, your dog may plow you down. I have a video example of this, but not to the point where I can post it. Fortunately this is rare, but it does add to the adrenaline rush Kristine |
| So there is a set order to the jumps, tables, weave poles, tunnels etc? You mentioned people vary, is that a fault? They set up the ring, determine the order it should be run in, give you a tour, and then you just hope like hell that you remember it? Are they labeled/numbered or anything? |
Willowsprite wrote: So there is a set order to the jumps, tables, weave poles, tunnels etc? You mentioned people vary, is that a fault? They set up the ring, determine the order it should be run in, give you a tour, and then you just hope like hell that you remember it? Are they labeled/numbered or anything? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! Well, basically, yes. And no. There are different types of classes. (and they usually vary among different organizations) In straight forward classes the course is numbered. In some strategy classes, (gamblers, FAST (AKC), and others ) the handler gets to make up part of the course, within certain guidelines, but for simplicity's sake let's stick with the most common type of course, and, there, yes, you just memorize the course that the judge has designed and the way you learn it is by following the numbered cones. It's really not as hard as it sounds. People don't vary the order in which they run the obstacles (unless it's one of those classes where handler has some freedom to make up parts of the course) but they do vary how they handle the course = the way they run their dogs in order to get the job done. If you compare Sybil and Macy's std runs, since they ran the same course, you can see there are subtle and not so subtle differences in how I ran each of them. Where I chose to put in a cross and what type of cross and so on. That is at the handler's discretion. But if judge says (by numbered cones) that the order of the course is tire-aframe-weaves-chute-teeter and so on, that's the way you run it. Kristine |
| Ok thanks |
| I just like watching agility videos~~ |
| I really enjoy watching your videos! I sooooo want to do this! |
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