When to stop kenneling at night....

Our 4.5 month old sheepdog all of a sudden started throwing nightly wimper/bark fests to rival his first night when we put him in his kennel at night. We tried tough love the first couple nights but due to work and crazy schedules this week we've let him out last two nights just to get some sleep. He's very good and just goes and sleeps on his dog bed, but are we setting ourselves up for problems in the future? I.e. Will he get more destructive as he continues to mature thru puppy-hood or if he's good at night now will he typically stay that way? Any advice would be so appreciated. This is our first puppy and we couldn't love him more. Just want to make sure we're doing the best for him. Thanks!
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That is roughly the age where our Mady stopped sleeping in her crate at night, although she happily goes in there during the day. We have never had any issues, but we make sure to keep the bathroom door closed in case she steals the toilet paper! She ends up mostly just sleeping beside our bed.
Is there any reason why he cant be inside of a night time in a crate near you or even a room with a dog bed close by?

Oes thrive on being around the family.

Working and not home through the day he is looking to be at least close by at night. If you can do that then I am sure you will get some sleep as he will be contented with you all at a night time close by and him not outside away from everyone. :wink:
I think the right answer is "when they can prove they can be good". If they begin to be naughty, or potty indoors, then they really weren't ready for the privilege.
Our 5 month old no longer sleeps in the crate at night. She proved herself worthy of being out of the crate about a month or so ago. We do not let her have free range though. We have her confined to our bedroom where she has a dog bed or our bed :oops: to sleep in!

She was also a very easy puppy to potty train, so that is never our concern since she was trained very early on in life and never had an accident in her crate. My concern would be all of the other trouble she could find herself in, which is why I confine her to our bedroom at night. Although, so far she really isn't much of a trouble maker either. An occassion run with a roll of paper towel is the worse thing she has done here inside..... now, outside... she can get into trouble since she is a digger and dirt eater. :evil:

We do crate her if we are not home as well. This is very rare since we both work from home, but, if we need to leave somewhere then she has to go in her crate.
Our Mady suddenly, without warning, decided that no, she would no longer tolerate being separated from her people at night, in a very similiar manner to your puppy. Her crate is on the first floor. Since that night, she sleeps upstairs without us, she has free range, and most of the night she is sleeping next to the bed, at some point in the morning, she moves to our shower room since it's the coolest surface with tiled floor. She never goes downstairs while we're upstairs. We've never had any problems with her being destructive or anything else.

Mady is perfectly fine going into her crate when she's home alone, however, she must always be right with us when we're home.
Thanks SO much to everyone for their responses! Stanley is used to someone always being around during the day (my husband works from home) and even though his kennel is literally right by our bed I think he just likes to feel free! So far he only goes between his dog bed and the bathroom floor and then he comes over to give me a sloppy kiss in the morning to let me know it's time for a potty break. I had to laugh NJ Sheepie as it seems he's very good in the house, but my husband called me yesterday to tell me that "my" dog dug a huge whole right near the water drain off from our roof in the back yard (lots of rich sediment and perfect for mud pies!). I asked him if he filled it in and he told me he would have but Stanley ate ALL of the dirt he dug out!!! He did get a big mud beard smile from him though right before he sprinted in the house. (Hoping Dad would forget he was in trouble by being cute!) Anyway thanks again for all the responses!! :D
Lord Stanley wrote:
Thanks SO much to everyone for their responses! Stanley is used to someone always being around during the day (my husband works from home) and even though his kennel is literally right by our bed I think he just likes to feel free! So far he only goes between his dog bed and the bathroom floor and then he comes over to give me a sloppy kiss in the morning to let me know it's time for a potty break. I had to laugh NJ Sheepie as it seems he's very good in the house, but my husband called me yesterday to tell me that "my" dog dug a huge whole right near the water drain off from our roof in the back yard (lots of rich sediment and perfect for mud pies!). I asked him if he filled it in and he told me he would have but Stanley ate ALL of the dirt he dug out!!! He did get a big mud beard smile from him though right before he sprinted in the house. (Hoping Dad would forget he was in trouble by being cute!) Anyway thanks again for all the responses!! :D


Would love to see pictures of that!!!
Sorry when you said Kenneling I thought you meant outside of a night time. :oops:

Had a huge laugh at stanleys excavation antic, hey he wants to visit china :P :lol: :lol:

If you can trust nothing will be chewed on then yes time to allow him out of the crate and on a dog bed over night. :wink:
Our male Bowie slept in his crate in our bedroom until he was about 6 months...then he started whining to come out to get water. We let him out and he got his water and then slept on his bed right next to ours without problem...Although we did leave the crate set up with the door open as he ocassionally goes in it to this day - he is four now!

Our girl, Bella, LOVES her crate...She sleeps in in, also in ouir bedroom, and she is almost three. She runs to it at night...rufles up her pillow and blanket in the crate and sleeps like a baby! I think she looks at the crate as her "comfortt" place...But again, everyone is with us in our bedroom...

As long as your pup can hold it through the night, and sleeps without problem, I see no problem in not staying in the crate overnihgt...although in a storm, or the 4th of July, you might find he seeks the crate out for comfort!
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