Rubaroc for a dog run?
We had friends over last fall and they suggested using Rubaroc. I am sure some of you have seen it on childrens playgrounds. For those of you who haven't here is a description from the website. Rubaroc is an impact absorbing, high tech polymer resin mixed with rubber to create a resilient, non-skid surface that is virtually indestructible. Professionally installed over your new or existing surface, Rubaroc expands and contracts to accommodate temperature changes and ground movement. There is simply no other surface like it. Available in many different colours, Rubaroc is the perfect solution for wet deck applications. Here is a link to see photos. http://www.rubaroc.com/index.php Now when I called the company, the lady on the phone said it would be great to use in a dog run. Apparently it will absorb the water so when they pee it will go right through. And it is suppossed to be "virtually indestructable" So to prevent another costly mistake just because someone says it will be a great solution for the run, I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this? Any help/advice/solution would be greatly appreciated! |
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| Rubadeck or Rubacourt? Also the golf course path material...that might be too hard. Interesting. Wonder if the nails will tear the material? Do they have experience with a kennel situation? If this is their first time, maybe they'll split the cost?? to use yours as a study...? OK, it's early and I'm still dreaming........ |
| It would be the Rubaroc....at least that is what I understood. I talked to them back in November. I asked about the nails going through and she said they wouldn't. The slogan for this product is "Bounces like rubber, wears like rock" I was told to call back in the spring as the temp must be warmer for them to install it. I just want to make sure that they are not just saying what I want to hear to make a sale. And what a great idea to try to get a deal on it to promote using it in a kennel...IF it is their first time. I think I am going to call them again now. |
| I believe the material is the same that is used on running tracks. I know that the runners wear spikes on their shoes, and the track hold ups well. It does get tore up after years of use and Canadian weather - beating down hot sun and freezing cold temps. The track near my home has been there for over 16 years and now is just starting to show a few bald spots. It would be great for a dog run if it is the same product! peg |
| How much did they quote you for a dog run? This looks like a great idea! |
| For my size, they quoted me around $1000, but they need to come to give me an exact estimate. Ok, so I called the company again and talked to a different lady. I explained what I wanted it for, and told her my concerns (nails, etc) She did tell me that the product has been used in horse barns, but she never thought of a dog run. She said it is a very durable product, and the dogs nails would not be a problem whatsoever. Anyways, she took my info and someone will be calling me back with more information. I also told her that they could potentially make a fortune if this does turn out to be a great product for a dog run/kennels. Already I know it is a better price than concrete, and this has many benefits compared to concrete. Because it is rubbery it would be easy on the dogs joints. Because it is absorbs liquids there would be no pee puddles or rain puddles to mess the feet up. I'll let everyone know as soon as I receive the call back. Is there any more questions you guys can think of that I should ask when they call? |
| Looks interesting! I never have seen it in this form - only as the loose chunks around here in playgrounds, etc. What do they put as a base under it?? The cost doesn't seem bad - less than I was anticipating. I just got a 15 ton load of gravel at $315 for our driveway.... |
| I'm wondering about the smell if the urine is absorbed? |
| Ok....I am forgetting about it...fast!! The rep just called, and while this is an absolutely perfect solution for a dog run, the cost is way too pricey! Apparently the lady who quoted me last fall was misquoting alot of people......here is the actual price.....get ready.....$12/square foot plus for me on top of that I have to pay 13% HST. So now that Rubaroc is out of the question, does anyone else have any solutions or tips on how they do their runs? |
| I am not sure if this idea would work for you, but have you considered stone dust. I have an outdoor arena made with stone dust. When the material is installed you MUST dig down to the subsoil layer or you will run into the problems you ran into. The subsoil can be compacted unlike topsoil where all your plants grow. The subsoil is compacted and then layers of stone are places on top of that in gradation of size. The final size I have is stone dust which is the size people use on their paver walkways. you may not need to go that small of a stone size. The final product provides cushing for riding enough for a 1200 lbs horse. I am sure that you would not need that much depth since we are talking dogs. Another product to consider if the top layer of stone dust is too pricey is rubber. This is NOT the rubber for playgrounds and from the home stores. In our area you can actually buy it directly from Waste Management and get a wholesale price. This has been added to many outdoor arenas as well for the extra cushening effect and great drainage. if you need a number I can pm you with it but there area companies which do the recycling of rubber tires for this extact purpose. hope this helps and you might want to google search designs for outdoor arenas to see how they are built. They are designed for great drainage, wear and tear and to lessen the impact and wear on the animals joints. Dressage Arenas specifically |
| amber, gail's right on the money about this. evidently, you're 1st attempt at stone run was not down to subsoil.there must have still been topsoil at 6" depth. you shouldn't have mud or soil coming up through it. i'm not sure what you mean by landscape material? stone runs properly built will drain the water and pee and you can top them with fine stone that won't track or bother dog's feet. |
As long as if ingested does not harm say for instance puppers that everything goes into the mouth.  Being rubber based?My outside day run which is 10' by 20' I have that built up, great in wet weather as keeps the feet dry,, on the base, what they call larger "1/4" Grey Screening Stones" as the thick base and on top of that a Crushed rock surface which is layed down thick also and pressed on the top to form a firm but draining surface and to stop puppies ingesting the larger screening draining stones underneath. Means even when wet or there peeing it all drains away naturally and has lasted well. I had friends with "concrete", "Ashpalt", or even bricked runs and the "Liquid" still pools on it so I went the natural way with two layers of the different "Stones" and I cant be more happier. Even up at our Farm I had a run area put outside in the same surface of the double layer as we have "Delightfull" red mountain soil which in the wet can be havoc on an OES's whites. Works lovely in winters wet, summer for an area for pooches to potty without worrying about snakes and when they wee, all drains away and does not pool on a surface for them to wander through again, so no urine stains as gone as soon as they pee. That's the surface of the home run  And from this photo you can see also fence line is lined with wood to make like a deep pit area to fill the surface with good layers of both the bigger stones and firmer more crushed finishing surface. That way also non wash away from the surface you have laid if raining or you want to hose and clean out the run area. We did this surface in two layers several years ago and still doing well have not had a need to top it up yet .  |
I had the entire back yard at the other house dug down, sod removed, 3 inches of limestone (great for drainage and preventing odor) and 3 inches of round pebbles, 1/4". It worked great, never had to add any. My current yard is a mud pit near the gate so I'm going to do something similar there after all the snow melts  I may also have rock put down in the back corner of the yard where the rhubarb and burrs grow  Willy finds burrs no matter how well I "think" I've cleared them out. |
| That must be the link - I have rhubarb with cockleburrs too!! And yes, of course Chewie finds them as well....  |
| rubaroc is excellant for dog runs, alot of kennels use the surfacing. u can find it starting at $9 a foot with this dealer of there's. www.orisurfacing.com |
| What about patio stone? That is what I used at my old place. I progressed with it to, so over a few pay cheques I would just go get a few stones. Sometimes I would get more. That way it isn't a big amount at once. Plus if you decide to move them you can unlike concrete. You can even resell them if the time comes you want to move. I bought the simple basic ones. Nothing fancy. Main reason I went with the stone, Langley like to much on the rock.  You can just spray it down. Loved it wish I took them with me when I left. But I sold the house so fast. Oh and I wasn't that great at laying them but it worked! You can see them in this video at this point that is my sewer under that tarp and waiting for the guy to come empty it. |
Rubaroc for dog runs is an excellent choice. It maybe a little pricey to install but it's a long term investment. No replacing of stone, better health for your best friend. And durable. Rubber has been used in arenas for horses for years. www.urbanimpact.net is also an installer of Rubaroc who installed it around my pool. |
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