How often to groom?

I live in Michigan and our summers are super humid, and our winters can be down right bitter so if I decided on getting an OES, I will more than likely keep the coat this length http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgulbran/2138892799/ in the late spring to mid fall months and then all other month this cut... with a little shorter on the head so I can see features like a nose and eyes! lol http://brevardandbrevard.com/images/Seb ... aption.jpg.
How often would you expect me to be visiting the groomer? 3-4 week for shorter cut and 68 for the longer maybe?







disclaimer....
I don't know these pups, just using the images as examples.
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We live in Ottawa, similar climate to yours. We keep our dog Mady in a long coat. She is 15 months old and is at the dog park every day so gets dirty. One thing I notice, though, is that if we brush her often, the dirt comes out with the brushing, so we only give her a bath every few months. We might do the odd foot and bum wash in between, in the tub. To keep her coat from getting matted up, it takes a good 3 hours a week of brushing right now, because she is wrestling with other dogs in the wet snow. Of course, all of this would be easier if she were in a shorter coat, but so far we are able to keep up!

I noticed your other post. I am a first time dog owner and was new to sheepdogs too. We have had our Mady for just over a year now. Getting her was the best decision ever-and I mean ever, in my entire life, getting her changed my life entirely, and I thought I had a good life BEFORE Mady! But it has also been tiring. I went from basically sitting on my butt eating chips and watching television to walking every day. Every single day. Rain or shine or blizzard. That was an adjustment for me but having that sweet fuzzy face along with me on walks helped. I honestly would not trade her for a million dollars and love her more than I ever thought possible. Someone in another thread about kids and dogs suggested getting the kids to walk every day for the same amount of time that they say they would walk a dog and see if they can do that for a few weeks. I should have done that before getting Mady, I would have been in better shape for her! :wink:

I made a forum post (see link below, I hope this works) on what our members would do or not do if they got a puppy again. I know that you are looking to get an older dog, but alot of this will still apply.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=32392

I think that you are wise to do research before you jump in. Good luck whichever kind of dog you decide to get-I think that dog will get alot of love!!
Just for the record (because you're of course welcome to cut your dog however you like), you don't have to make any major coat modifications for our weather if you don't want to. I live about an hour from you and I've got two OES in full coat plus a fully corded Komondor. When it's hot, we go out in the evenings and they come in and out through the dog door for water and air conditioning as they need it. In cold weather, they love being outside and the extra coat keeps them from getting wet to the bone from rolling around in the snow. The better the coat, the better that seems to be the case so make sure you get a pup from a reputable breeder. A dog with a good coat also looks way better clipped down. Much puffier. :) I only shave when I just get way too lazy to keep up with the coat (which seems to be quite a bit now with my non-show dog)! I liked this short haircut for Owen. He's barely an inch long but mega-plushy:

Image

If you're clipping to this length, you could stretch it out to probably a couple of months in between shaves. You'll get a feel for how long is too long because you'll start to get little mats at a certain length. At that point, you know it's time to start a week earlier.

If you'd like to meet some OES, you're welcome to visit mine if you ever come down towards Detroit. I've got one from a backyard breeder and one from a reputable breeder so I always think it's a good experience for potential puppy owners to see the difference in them and why a reputable breeder is the better choice.

Jill
Mady wrote:
We live in Ottawa, similar climate to yours. We keep our dog Mady in a long coat. She is 15 months old and is at the dog park every day so gets dirty. One thing I notice, though, is that if we brush her often, the dirt comes out with the brushing, so we only give her a bath every few months. We might do the odd foot and bum wash in between, in the tub. To keep her coat from getting matted up, it takes a good 3 hours a week of brushing right now, because she is wrestling with other dogs in the wet snow. Of course, all of this would be easier if she were in a shorter coat, but so far we are able to keep up!

I noticed your other post. I am a first time dog owner and was new to sheepdogs too. We have had our Mady for just over a year now. Getting her was the best decision ever-and I mean ever, in my entire life, getting her changed my life entirely, and I thought I had a good life BEFORE Mady! But it has also been tiring. I went from basically sitting on my butt eating chips and watching television to walking every day. Every single day. Rain or shine or blizzard. That was an adjustment for me but having that sweet fuzzy face along with me on walks helped. I honestly would not trade her for a million dollars and love her more than I ever thought possible. Someone in another thread about kids and dogs suggested getting the kids to walk every day for the same amount of time that they say they would walk a dog and see if they can do that for a few weeks. I should have done that before getting Mady, I would have been in better shape for her! :wink:

I made a forum post (see link below, I hope this works) on what our members would do or not do if they got a puppy again. I know that you are looking to get an older dog, but alot of this will still apply.

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=32392

I think that you are wise to do research before you jump in. Good luck whichever kind of dog you decide to get-I think that dog will get alot of love!!


I will definitely check that thread out thanks :D
ButtersStotch wrote:
Just for the record (because you're of course welcome to cut your dog however you like), you don't have to make any major coat modifications for our weather if you don't want to. I live about an hour from you and I've got two OES in full coat plus a fully corded Komondor. When it's hot, we go out in the evenings and they come in and out through the dog door for water and air conditioning as they need it. In cold weather, they love being outside and the extra coat keeps them from getting wet to the bone from rolling around in the snow. The better the coat, the better that seems to be the case so make sure you get a pup from a reputable breeder. A dog with a good coat also looks way better clipped down. Much puffier. :) I only shave when I just get way too lazy to keep up with the coat (which seems to be quite a bit now with my non-show dog)! I liked this short haircut for Owen. He's barely an inch long but mega-plushy:

Image

If you're clipping to this length, you could stretch it out to probably a couple of months in between shaves. You'll get a feel for how long is too long because you'll start to get little mats at a certain length. At that point, you know it's time to start a week earlier.

If you'd like to meet some OES, you're welcome to visit mine if you ever come down towards Detroit. I've got one from a backyard breeder and one from a reputable breeder so I always think it's a good experience for potential puppy owners to see the difference in them and why a reputable breeder is the better choice.

Jill

Sorry it took so long to get back, my computer is crappy and crashes all the time It's easier just leaving it off lol... Just got a new one this evening!!!! :cheer: :yay:

Anyways, I like Owen cut, that's probably as long as I would let it get. Even for my self I'm a wash and wear gal, so I like easy to manage hair that doesn't take too long. I was playing around with the idea of just shaving the dog my self, but the more I thought about it, taking a trip up to PetsMart for a bath, hair cut, and either bows or a kerchief would be a great excuse for some socializing. I do plan on trimming nails on my own though, I have been doing Johndy's for years now and last year we got the PetiPaws nail-filer.... Although Johndy has opaque nails, I can see the quick threw them... do OES have opaque or black nails? If they are black then a pedicure will go with the bath and what not! lol

I will definitely keep you in mind Jill,

PS. I think Komondor's and Pulis are THE coolest looking dogs on this earth!
don't rule out doing things yourself. There are a lot of do it yourself dog wash places out there. After reading the posts here about trimming and shaving it is really not that hard to get a handle on. I take Bella to a do it yourself place once every 4-5 weeks sometimes just to wash her whites when they are dirty. We have been there so often that they know Bella by site (not my name....I am just Bella's mom) and it is a lot less expensive to do the grooming myself. I would look around at your options before ruling out grooming on your own. It is really some great bonding time. I do lots of tummy and butt rubs while I dry her off. Helps keep relaxed.
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