22 Month Old Male OES- Neutered: Columbus OH
appeared on Craigslist today. I sent the listing to rescues earlier this morning and also sent the advertiser a list of questions to ask. Just sharing this in case someone is looking. Quote: Old english sheepdog (Columbus) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 2010-12-13, 8:45AM EST Reply to: sale-tezgx-2110101456@craigslist.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 22 month old Old English sheepdog, neutered, housebroken, UTD with shots. He really needs a family with kids to crawl all over him and play with him. We don't have the time for him anymore. Very loving, goofy, easy going guy. He really needs a great family for a forever home. Please call 614-478-2186 for information. Asking $100 rehoming fee. Location: Columbus it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests PostingID: 2110101456 |
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| we have a call in, there was 1 call ahead of us, if it doesn't work out she'll let us know!!! |
Well... there is still room on your couch for one more...    I hope he'll be a match for you.  |
LOL!!!! Room on the couch for sure, maybe not on mom! But we'll make sure there's equal lap time. Thanks for the good thoughts...  |
| 6 girls, how do you find all of these on craigslist? Every couple days i get on and search the big cities near us and come up with ZERO! |
| I'm sure others have better searches but this is what I use... viewtopic.php?f=13&t=31665 |
6Girls wrote: I'm sure others have better searches but this is what I use... viewtopic.php?f=13&t=31665 I don't think that is the link you meant to post....  |
| You scared me, Kathy... I wasn't sure what I had posted!! If you scroll down that thread and you'll find the links. 6Girls wrote: Wonderful! I hope she's still available and will be a match. These are the links I search... anyone can do it.  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbo= ... afe=images http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbo= ... afe=images If you don't search as often, these would be better- http://www.google.com/search?q=old+engl ... US381US381 http://www.google.com/search?q=old+engl ... US381US381 http://pets.oodle.com/all/for-sale/pet_ ... als%287%29 Also search "sheep dog" on Petfinder... OESs sometimes are listed there instead of under Old English Sheepdog (my zip code is in the search, you can put your own)- http://www.petfinder.com/pet-search?ani ... rch=Search Still, you'll find some are missed.  |
Donner's Mom wrote: 6Girls wrote: I'm sure others have better searches but this is what I use... viewtopic.php?f=13&t=31665 I don't think that is the link you meant to post.... I was afraid to look as well...............  |
| I was afraid I'd be asking Ron to please delete something.  |
6Girls wrote: :lol: I was afraid I'd be asking Ron to please delete something. Sorry, you know me the "skimmer" If I don't see something right away I give up  |
| I should have just copied/pasted the info into this thread. |
6Girls wrote: I should have just copied/pasted the info into this thread. Nope, most people are patient enough to look!!! |
| Well thanks for the links. Still haven't heard back about Teddy. We'll let you know. |
| Please do! |
| 6girls, thanks for the post, we are going to get him sunday!!! This takes away the sting from the last one being given away and not being told about it.. i'll post more once we have him home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
YAY!!!  Another happy ending for a sheepie.  Please posts pics soon. I just love seeing them. Congratulations.  I just found one on the Texas craislist if you kow anyone in Texas for a sheepie please let them know. |
weloveoursheepie wrote: 6girls, thanks for the post, we are going to get him sunday!!! This takes away the sting from the last one being given away and not being told about it.. i'll post more once we have him home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait to see pictures and read the stories! |
| Ooooh... good for you. Hoping he'll fit right in with your family and Charlie. Congratulations. |
| Congrats!! Another happy furever story! |
| Home with the new sheepie, he and charlie ar getting to know each other! If any of you introduced a 2nd sheepie to a first, let me know how it's supposed to go? Will post pic's soon.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| looks like i wasn't logged in.. thanks 6girls for posting, ted is home with us now, he is following charlie around everyone, hope charlie adjusts soon!!! Any advice?? |
weloveoursheepie wrote: looks like i wasn't logged in.. thanks 6girls for posting, ted is home with us now, he is following charlie around everyone, hope charlie adjusts soon!!! Any advice?? It make take a few days for him to adjust...he may sleep a lot, drinl a lot and maybe not even eat much! He will adjust... Please ask if you have any specific questions! Thanks again and look forward to the updates! |
| I am NOT a professional trainer... all I can share is what I've done over the years. Others here will hopefully share their knowledge and experience. Much of what you'll need to do really depends on the individual temperaments of the two dogs. If you have problems early on, do not hesitate to bring in a professional trainer. You want to start out on the right track or quickly address any issues the right way for your particular dogs. A pro-trainer can observe the dogs first hand and offer suggestions. Having said this, this is what I do... be it right or wrong. It's just what has worked for me and my dogs... I had Kobuck in a 10 day quarantine because he needed to be walked at the airport. This was the first introduction to the pack... it was all done one-on-one: http://oesusa.com/Page264.html When I felt things were ok, I dropped his leash but stayed close to be sure no one got too rough. Just a side note... Kobuck was too wild with multiple dogs so we had to back off to one-on-one again. I could control the other dog but I couldn't control Kobuck. I discovered that if I stopped the other dog, it took the speed out of Kobuck and he'd slow down. He just ran so darn fast that I was afraid someone would be injured due to the speed. He would also body slam them. This also helped me to direct Kobuck's focus on "toy" or "ball". This took a few weeks time to do. Once I got control of each dog in his play group while they were with him, all four were put together again. The reason I'm sharing this is that if you cannot get control of Ted, you might be able to get control of Charlie if the game gets too fast. Supervise 100% of the time the two are together and do this for at least several months until you know for certain the two are safe together. If you can't supervise, securely separate them. This means with a closed door between them... if you crate Ted, his crate should be behind a closed door. Some dogs can have crate aggression if confined because they don't have the option to flee. And some dogs can be, excuse the term but, bitchy with a new dog even while he/she is in a crate. So always supervise or separate. You likely won't know whether either will be a resource guarder around the other so I would control the toys until you're sure both dogs are ok with the other accessing them freely. If you see any negative behavior with a toy, do not leave any lying around that might might cause conflict. Don't leave any food, rawhide, maybe even Nylabones lying around. You keep control of that at all times. Even a dropped piece of kibble on the floor can start a conflict with the right (or is that wrong?) dogs. If I accidentally drop a piece of kibble on the floor here, it's MINE. A good idea too is to give small treats that can be chewed up without dropping any. When feeding, I would start in separate rooms until you know how they do. Do not allow either dog near the others' food dish... and pick up the food dishes after each meal so there is nothing to fight over. You might also keep a leash on Ted to start with (you must always be supervising). It may allow you to get control of him without having to touch his collar (some dogs do not like that and will bite). Kobuck was a sweetheart but I didn't know how he might react so he dragged a leash. http://oesusa.com/index.1326.jpg http://oesusa.com/index.1208.jpg If he's too much of a pest, Charlie will take exception especially if she doesn't like her space invaded. Start teaching him the "leave it" command and perfect the art of distraction. If he gets to be too much, give Charlie a break. Personally, I intervene so a dog can't be a pest. Kobuck at times was tethered to me or tethered to the door (he was sexually obsessed due to still being intact cryptorchid). He just couldn't help himself so we had to limit his movement. It allowed him to play but it also allowed the others to get away from him. http://oesusa.com/Page2743.jpg http://oesusa.com/Page2738.jpg http://oesusa.com/index.1304.jpg I don't want the other dogs to hate the new dog so I try to set limits from the start. I found here that my dogs usually do better playing with a new dog outdoors to start. The new dog is kept on a leash that's in my control until I'm sure the dogs will play. (But I ONLY try to bring in good natured dogs to start because I have a pack they will have to exist in.) The dogs can run off the excess energy too so they're more calm when in the house. I like a long tug toy (it was a twin sheet tied in knots http://oesusa.com/index.1269.jpg and a rope http://oesusa.com/index.1237.jpg or tug http://oesusa.com/index.1258.jpg ) or ball if the dogs like to interact this way. We had to teach Kobuck that while the game of seize-and-concur-the-toy was fun, it was more fun to interact and play tug with another dog. He now takes toys and puts them in other dogs faces rather than running off with a toy to create a pile of toys in the corner by the chaise lounge. He also had to be taught "toy" or "ball" so he wouldn't mouth the other dogs when playing. It takes time for a dog to learn a new way of play but it can be done. If you're lucky, they'll like to play the same way. One other thing... we tried to end play sessions on a good note and BEFORE the dogs got tired of each other. I want them to want to play together. I have no idea whether this makes sense, it's just what I try to do. Lisa (with Mattie) and I were writing back and forth last night. There is one thing that usually happens with many of us who bring in a new dog. I've done it several times and it's happened with every single dog we've brought in. There's a phase we go through, even with the best of dogs, where we wonder- What the heck possessed me to bring in a new dog!? (Has it happened with you, Kathy??) There are often bumps in the road as the dogs adapt to this big change. A honeymoon period too where the new dog is on better behavior... as he/she settles in, the dog's true nature becomes more apparent. Limits may be pushed, boundaries tested which can lead to scuffles... hopefully not down right fights. This is when we really hope that the previous owner has been truthful!! This certainly isn't everything... hopefully something here will help. Hoping they'll settle in quickly and come to enjoy each others company.  |
| Thanks, Jaci. so far Ted ( the new one) follows us and Charlie everywhere. He seems to be alot more playful than Charlie. Ted came from a home with another dog so he is wanting to play. We dont know Charlie's history, but he is a pretty lazy couch potato. The only real problem so far is when Charlie want attention, Ted runs in and gets in ahead of him, we just don't want our dog to lose alot of wanted attention and resent the other dog.Also they are both boys, so don't know if that makes things different or not. Thanks ,Brandon |
| Oops... I thought Charlie was a girl. Not sure why I thought that... We had conflict early on when we brought Panda in. Oh boy. A crabpot of Schipperke-mix Meesha and two one year olds- Kaytee and Panda and all the joys coming of age can bring with it. Kaytee could be set off by sounds of commotion. Panda thought everything was fun, knew no limits and didn't read the other dog's signals. We had to bring in a professional trainer to help us address the problem. It's how I learned to the importance of observing a dog's body language in order to prevent fights. Easier to prevent a fight than it is to stop on in progress. So what happens here is if I know a dog will get possessive over me or take exception to having their space invaded when I'm petting them, all my attention giving immediately stops. So if I'm sitting down and Meesha comes up for attention (I KNOW this dog does not like her space invaded) and I'm petting her, if another dog starts to come up for attention too, I immediately stand up and walk away from both of them. It may not sound fair but it prevents conflict. With time, Meesha has gotten SO much better... Jim was sitting at the kitchen table the other day and Meesha had her head on one knee, Bumble on the other... they were nose to nose but it took a LONG time for her to get to that point. Get them into a routine and begin daily training. The sits, downs, stays, leave-it especially, etc. Do leave-it one-on-one until they know it very, very well... drop a so-so piece of food on the floor, tell them to leave it and "look at me". If the dog goes for it, cover the food with your shoe protected foot, and say leave it again and look at me. The moment the dog looks you in the face, give the dog a better quality treat than the one on the floor. You can bring your hand up to your face with the treat to encourage eye contact. You pick up the piece on the floor... they never get that one... that one is always MINE. Note however that this approach may NOT be right if the dog is food aggressive or a resource guarder... so use extreme caution until you know the dog. I guess from my view the main thing is not to give them a reason to feel possessive or jealous. |
| So far so good, the boys seem to be getting along very well! They played a bit last night. Took your advice and ended the play while it was still going well. It is fun to see them both sleeping side by side on day two! We'll keep you posted. We are so excited to watch their relationship grow. Hoping soon they will be best buds and we will know we did the right thing. |
| Something funny we did notice, is that whenever the boys are in the bedroom and Ted wants to play, Charlie hops up on the bed, as if to say "we can play, but I want you to know whose the king around here, these are my people." Then he proceeds to play. And he has slept in bed with us, which he NEVER did before Ted's arrival. He would only sleep in the bed when it stormed out or for very short stints then he hopped down. We've not witnessed any aggression or arguments yet. They both run and sit to wait for food together and then eat side by side. I'm cautiously optimistic |
| Just me being a worrywart... Remember that you're in the honeymoon stage... that it takes months for dogs to truly settle in. Quote: And he has slept in bed with us, which he NEVER did before Ted's arrival. He would only sleep in the bed when it stormed out or for very short stints then he hopped down. Just so Charlie isn't claiming you or the bed. You don't want conflicts over who will have access to the bed or yourselves. Bumble has a tendency to try to claim us or an area and tells mainly Panda to stay away... so I just wanted to share that it can happen. You might want to keep a no-bed policy for several months anyway so they don't have anything to squabble about. I guess my concern is that if Ted isn't crated or isn't contained and sleeping in another room every night, what might happen if Ted decides to join his pack in the middle of the night. Will Charlie welcome him? You just don't want to be caught in the middle or pinned under the covers if a fight begins... especially with two big dogs. Again, I don't know your dogs! Quote: We've not witnessed any aggression or arguments yet. They both run and sit to wait for food together and then eat side by side. It's sometimes best to err on the side of caution. There usually isn't a need to feed them side-by-side. Maybe it's side-by-side but 8-10 feet apart? By keeping them apart, you're the one setting the limits so the dogs themselves don't have to. If you've never seen a true dog fight, it can be terrifying and dangerous. I guess all I'm saying is to take things slow so the addition of Ted stays a very good thing. Again... just one opinion and we all have them!! I'm very glad that things are going well. |
6Girls wrote: It's sometimes best to err on the side of caution. There usually isn't a need to feed them side-by-side. Maybe it's side-by-side but 8-10 feet apart? By keeping them apart, you're the one setting the limits so the dogs themselves don't have to. If you've never seen a true dog fight, it can be terrifying and dangerous. I guess all I'm saying is to take things slow so the addition of Ted stays a very good thing. Again... just one opinion and we all have them!! I'm very glad that things are going well. I am with Jaci on this. We fed Oliver and Lucy in seperate rooms for 1.5 years. Just recently we moved their eating into the kitchen, but oposite sides of the kitchen, so probably 20 feet apart. AND I still always monitor them. We've never had any agression problems, and I don't want any! |
| Thanks for the concerns, we will take a look at how we are doing things. We haven't seen dog fights and have probably put our rose colored glasses on too quickly. We will be more careful and try not to move so fast. Thanks for your advice! |
weloveoursheepie wrote: Thanks for the concerns, we will take a look at how we are doing things. We haven't seen dog fights and have probably put our rose colored glasses on too quickly. We will be more careful and try not to move so fast. Thanks for your advice! As Jaci said, I don't know your dogs, so I'm not a good judge. I just err on the side of caution as well. Heaven knows my life is stressful enough, I don't need to add any aggression issues to it! We had absolutely (knock on wood) zero aggession issues when we brought Lucy into our home. So, it can happen. But just as you said above, take it slow, you are still in the honeymoon phase. Oh, and I must of have missed the pictures  ...hint, hint! |
LOL! Mr. Ted is quite a fun pup to try to take pics of. I did get an early Christmas gift of a camera last night so I'm sure there will be lots over the next few weeks! Here is a cute one Brandon shot this afternoon. |
 Look how comfortable he is! That belly just SCREAMS to be petted! LOVE it! |
| OH MY TED SO SO CUTE WELL HIS TUMMY IS SO GLAD THEY ARE GETTING ALONG. LISTEN TO JACI SHE SEEMS TO KNOW. BUT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE A MATCH ..I HAVE 2 BOYS AND THEY ARE GREAT TOGETHER. MORE PICS PLEASE |
| That pose is the definition of comfortable. Mr. Ted has landed!! Good luck to you. |
Just posted a few more of the boys... Here is a cute one of the pair! |
| Beautiful pictures of your two boys! |
| Im glad they are getting along so well. I have 3 dogs (2 labs and a sheepie) they all eat together and I havent had any problems. I did feed Ryleigh (my sheepie) away from the other 2 for about a month after we got her to to see how things went, but now they eat side by side with no issues. They know mom wont feed them if they act up. Hope you have continue success with your boys. |
| Still doing very well. The boys are almost always side by side. Had our niece and nephew out for the past few days and even with the commotion of two rowdy kids they were great and calm and sweet. We are still being very watchful for any signs from either of them and also decided to keep both of them off furniture and beds for at least a few months till we know all has sorted and settled. Now working on making sure they both know who is the boss. Me, of course although Brandon might tell you otherwise Thanks everyone, especially Jaci for your advise and encouragement! No more pics for a few weeks, Charlie got a bad haircut and is too embarrassed to pose LOL. Cheers, Happy New Year!!! |
| I so glad things are continuing to go well! |
weloveoursheepie wrote: LOL! Mr. Ted is quite a fun pup to try to take pics of. I did get an early Christmas gift of a camera last night so I'm sure there will be lots over the next few weeks! Here is a cute one Brandon shot this afternoon. Oh my god, what a funny picture. Reckon Teddy feels right at home. I've always thought that is the most uncomfortable-looking sleeping position - Patch sleeps like that and I'll see a leg sticking through the bedroom from the hall, it is hilarious. CONGRATS on your new addition to the family. |
must be a sheepie thing. Ryleigh sleeps like that too. Makes it easy to trim the hair on the tummy and pads at night.  |
| YEAH!!! hope all is well ! what great photos! |
Here is a sweet shot taken last week. The boys both zonked out on our niece Morgan's lap. No problems sharing  |
| Adorable picture! Looks like the two are getting along nicely! |
| There is nothing like it! And Charlie... I don't know why you were embarrassed by your haircut. You guys are both ADORABLE!! |
| Just wanted to post an update. As I lay in the tiny spot I'm "allowed" on the bed sandwiched between my two sheepie boys this morning—trying to pull some covers over myself without disturbing Charlie and nose Ted's soggy beak off of my pillow—I thought how grateful I am for this forum and all of you who work so hard for the safety and happiness of these sheepies! Our boys are getting along so well... teaching each other so much (good and bad and filling our home with lots of chaos, mud and happiness! Thank you all, and cheers! |
| ^^^Oh, that's wonderful. So grateful to you for rescueing him! |
jcc9797 wrote: ^^^Oh, that's wonderful. So grateful to you for rescueing him! I am with you! Thank you! They are adorable! |
Quote: Our boys are getting along so well... teaching each other so much (good and bad and filling our home with lots of chaos, mud and happiness! They are BEAUTIFUL! I sometimes keep a small fleece blanket within reach so I can at least cover up my arms if I end up a bit short-sheeted due to dogs on the bed. Good commands to teach are "stand" and "over here"! Have you started to race to bed so you're assured of a prime spot and enough covers? |
| Thank you, I think they are pretty cute too Good idea, Jaci, I'll have to make sure to grab a throw tonight! Luckily I go to bed before "dad" so I usually start the evening out with a prime spot at least. Once the house is quiet all of the living things gravitate toward the bedroom, so we usually end up with some combination of the 2 humans, 2 sheepies and 3 cats trying to get the best spot--which seems to be as close to me as possible! We did make sure both boys complied with the "down" command before we allowed them on the bed. By the way, today is Ted's 2nd birthday!  |
| Well a BIG Happy 2nd Birthday to TED!! |
| happy 4 ted such a great rescue story glad the love eeach other and i do get no room in the bed but as long as they are content lol |
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