The Vet seemed pretty unconcerned. Said it looked irritated, but nothing to worry about.
I don't really like trating symptoms without knowing the cause. The vet said it is probably incontinence.
Robin never had this problem before. What could have caused this? I wish she could tell me. Robin is 6.
|I'd get a new vet. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but to put your dog on Proin, without confidence in the diagnosis seems like a strong reaction to me.|
Tonks is on Proin 50. She's been incontinent to varying degrees since we got her. At 2 and a half, she was suddenly peeing herself at a significantly increased frequency. My vet did an ultra sound, to make sure there wasn't something inside causing it; like a deformation that could be surgically repaired. We also did several tests for infection. Ultimately, Tonks went on Proin 50 once a day, and when it didn't do the job 100%, twice a day. Its a strong dose, but seems to do the trick.
If your dog looks irritated down there, I'd ask that more tests be done. Proin treats incontinence, but I don't know that incontinence would cause that sort of irritation. Maybe if your dog has been leaking, and it hasn't been cleaned, it could be like a diaper rash? I always washed Tonks up after an accident, so I never saw any sort of irritation.
|I'd be more concerned about cystitis (bladder infection), foreign object, or something more tangible than "just incontinence" (diabetes, kidney disease, pyometra in unspay, tumors--I'm not trying to scare you, just point out such a quick dismissal isn't the sign of a good vet). I'd want a better vet exam. The fact it started after two stressful experiences makes me wonder. |
It may very well be incontinence, but I know my vet immediately does a UTI test with direct take from the bladder.......old Glacier just rolls over, "here we go again". If it's not a UTI, then maybe an infection further down the urethra. Then xray to rule out obstruction.
Glacier is on Proin and doing great, we just regularly test for UTI as she is symptomless.
Thanks for reminding me, MO is getting a bit too brown down there too. Time for trim and good cleaning.
But, then robin started going around the house leaking everwhere. She actually was so uncomforatable she could not sit still.
What you described sounds like she was uncomfortable... pain, maybe even itching. The skin in that area wasn't red or irritated? When you cleaned her up, did you get brown "stuff" on the cloth? I don't believe the distress you described is a symptom of incontinence.
Then again, I don't have any experience with true incontinence. A bladder defect, yes, but not incontinence. I don't know if you can stop the meds to see if the symptoms return or if that might mess things up. My main concern would be whether whatever was causing her discomfort simply took care of itself or if she's truly incontinent.
I clip the hair short around the wee/vulva using a #10 clipper blade. If she's more "tucked", the skin folds around the vulva can be an ideal place for both bacteria and yeast... bacteria and yeast both can be itchy. Keeping the hair short helps to keep them cleaner/drier. You might try wiping her down after she pees. A mild baby wipe might help if there's any irritation. A medicated wipe from the vet might help if it's yeast/bacteria.
|Tonks' incontinence came with NO discomfort. She didn't even realize she was urinating until she was wet, and then she'd look embarrassed. I'd seek a better exam with a different vet.|
|Thanks for the responses. I am a little neurotic when it comes to my "baby", so I did not want to overreact. I also thought the diagnosis was alittle hasty. |
And, now I also know what you call that area...LOL!! A vulva!
|also; a heads up. Proin can have a side effect of making your dog a little "energetic". Tonks was already at Spastic level. The Proin has really made her quite the energized challenge. We do LOTS of training and activities to try and keep up with her!|
|Wee... vulva... I think the terms are interchangeable. |
I didn't know what the heck it was called either until my vet told me.
|Hello my friend iluvsheepdawgs! Gald to see you back on the forum!|
I think what you saw was the remainder of a UTI...By that I mean, having a UTI, she was licking and that caused the browning I think you are talking about. Also, the peeing around the house and being uncomfortable is also a sign of UTI. BUT, I think her urine tested negative after this event?
I go with what everyone else said. If you are sure the UTI is gone, and that can only be done by bringing in a urine to be tested, and she is still peeing around the house and not sitting due to discomfort, I would certainly insist on more testing.
Not familair with Proin50? Is that a prescription drug or a supplement?
Your friends at the Bowie house!
|Incontinence is thought to be a hormone imbalance: testosterone in males and good old estrogen in bitches. (Yes, boys can be incontinent, far rarer though) |
What is Proin?
Proin is an aid in the management of urinary incontinence in dogs. Proin requires a prescription from your veterinarian.
• Is a supplement for urinary incontinence in dogs
• Ensures sustained phenylpropanolamine levels in the blood stream and may help reduce the conditions often associated with high levels of phenylpropanolamine such as: decreased appetite, changes in heart rate, increased blood pressure, hyperexcitability
How it works:
Proin contains the active ingredient phenylpropanolamine, an adrenergic agent that works by tightening the bladder sphincter muscle, which helps to control urine leakage.
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