Kids at petsmart today! Oh my God!

What in the world?! Brad and I were looking at the parrot in the cage at petsmart - an african grey. He was on the right hand of the cage - sitting on his perch and looking at everyone pass by. This little kids comes up to the cage - gets our attention... then says "You shouldn't hit the cage!" We didn't even have to ask why before he punched the side and the poor bird almost fell off it's perch. "That's what happens!"

I told him - "Don't do that!" In the quietest tone I could muster (which was pretty quiet - I give myself a lot of credit). He looked a little shocked before he ran off. I was surprised I didn't have an angry mother running up to me afterwords yelling at me for telling her kid not to do that. He was probably 7 years old.

Then another kid is left alone - he was probably 5! I watched him stand alone near the fish tanks with a kitten probably 6 weeks old tops. The kitten keeps trying to get away from him - smacks the kitten each time - then stuffs him in a little hole underneith the display! I watched this boy stay there without his parents for 10 min before I walked off before I told him (screamed) to be nice to his poor kitten. I came back again and he was still alone.

Not to mention the other 4 children I saw running around without their parents. It was like dump-your-kid-off day at petsmart!

I swear... some parents today need to have their kids taken away or at least fined for leaving their children unattended where they could get seriously hurt! I can't believe the things I saw!
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Heh...I work at Target in the clothes area and see this all the time. Kids running around doing whatever they want, running up and down the aisles, swinging from racks, knocking folded clothes off tables, dragging clothes and other things around, just plain making huge messes, etc.. And if you try to tell the kids to stop running etc, the parents get mad at you, even though they're the ones not watching their own children. I see way too many parents who let their kids wander and it truly is a disgrace. These same people are always the same ones to cry when something bad happens to little Johnny or Susie because they wandered off alone and weren't being watched. It's not the employees' responsibility to watch their children. One night when I was working about a year ago, a little girl around 3-4 or so came over into the boys area and started tossing folded shirts off the table. I didn't see her parents around but figured they were nearby. Nope. A few minutes later we had the code for a missing child and of course I knew it was her they were looking for. So a co-worker took her up to the front. Turns out she had walked away from her Grandmother who was ALL the way over on the other side of the store. Now honestly, would you let your kid go anywhere with Granny after that? :P
Flare wrote:
These same people are always the same ones to cry when something bad happens to little Johnny or Susie because they wandered off alone and weren't being watched.


You are totally right! How many times do you see those cases with a kids gets snatched up and sexually abused - where the parent on the show was like "I only took my eyes off him for a minute!" Then you hear about where she REALLY was or what she was doing rather than watching after her kid.

I know that parents can't always keep ahold of them - and they are going to run ahead sometimes and mess something up. Heck - even if they are carrying the kids I've seen them destroy a few stands. But at least they are with them, you know?

The kids at petsmart are absolutely horrible though. Sure they were picking on a bird that couldn't bite them - and a kitten that couldn't fight back. But what happens when they think they can do that to just anything? What happens when it's a big dog that they don't know? Or a parrot who isn't as secure in the cage as they thought?

They need to have more child laws I think - if their parents leave them somewhere for extended amounts of time when they are five it should be illegal.

I feel sorry for the kids, the people around them and the animals as well. It just isn't right.
It is rather pathetic. Anyone who has worked retail before can testify to these poor parenting practices. I second the non-babysitting motion. Why do some people think a shop clerk is responsible for monitoring their child? It's ridiculous! I've seen children do all sorts of things unsupervised in stores- from destroying merchandise to getting themselves into dangerous situations. Retails workers are not there to protect people from their own stupidity! All you have to do is listen to one mother screaming in fear for her child who has wandered off to remember why never to let this happen to you!!!

Gasp, gurgle, snort... bad memories. This is one of the reasons I'm not in retail anymore. That, the increasing rudeness of the general public, and shoplifting. Ok- off the soapbox now!

Karen :)
But it's not just in retail. Some parents seem to forget their jobs whenever they go to a place where there are other adults.

I've seen people just ignore their kids and their kids' atrocious behaviors in my home, in stores, at a friend's family outing, in campgrounds....

They seem to have the attitude: "Well, as long as nobody complains to me, I'll let others assume the burden of my children for a while."

We have had kids in our house that were absolutely bouncing off the walls, from 4 different couples. We just never invited them back, in order to protect our home. Why ruin the "friendship" between the adults? The kids will age, we hope, and then the adults can return.
I totally agree. But what really peeves me off is in restaurants I have children 17 and 12. They were little once and when we would go to restaurants I would always ask to be seated in an area where other children were or away from others that looked like they "may want to be alone". There is nothing worse than a 3 year old looking over the booth and dropping food down your back.


Caullet & Abby
Sugartown, LA
Oh, don't get me started!!! I work in an elementary school. You wouldn't believe some of the parents we deal with on a daily basis. Some are great - they take care of their kids and have an interest in their education. Others should never had kids in the first place. These poor kids come to school dirty and hungry and some do not have the proper clothes for cold weather. However, the parents seems to have the money for cell phones, manicures, nice clothes, etc. Then there are what we call the "helicopter Moms" who hover over their kids and intervene when the little darlings get in trouble. They will tell the staff here that their child would never steal, hit another child, swear, cheat on a test, etc. They do this right in front of the child who smirks at you from behind Mom's back. What are they teaching their kids??? It's ok to do whatever you want, your parent will come to the rescue and get you out of trouble..... When this happens, I'm thinking, "Ok, lady..... someday you'll be telling this to a judge." Sorry for the rant, but I had to chime in and blow off some steam!
I hate to start with "back when I was a kid" cause it always sounds bad...
But.... is it just me or do we seem to have many more irresponsible
parents than we had years ago? I mean granted there were always some
in the crowd, but it seems to me like the percentage has risen dramaticly.
Is it because of the fear that the parent will be viewed as "abusive" for
disciplining a child or do the parents really not realize what their poor
parenting will do the thier child as an adult? Aside from destructive
behavior I see so many kids now that have no respect for anyone or
anything, have no consideration for others and have zero manners.
These cell phone occupied, ghetto nail getting, clothing hog, can't be
bothered to raise my own child parents need to GET A CLUE! We have
all seen it - and what kills me is that they don't even realize that they
should be embarassed and ashamed. Now, before anyone gets
offended, I don't begin to mean that all are like that, and I wouldn't even
say most. But there certainly seem to be Many!
I have had more rants this week than I ever recall! What is up with that?

Shellie
APATHY!

1) Lack of interest or concern, esp. in matters of general importance or appeal: Indifference. 2) Lack of emotion or feeling; impassiveness...

I too have been witness to this movment in parenting, if you can call it parenting. You might be able to excuse it if was that only the too young to be parents were the only ones guilty of this behavior, but it unfortunately knows no age limits. The rudeness of some children is sometimes so sad, but what is sadder, is that often these children should still be sweet little innocent tykes and not know the meaness that they inflict on others or innocent animals. You have to wonder what they have seen, witnessed to become such little monsters.

I was once walking Tyler and these little girls wanted to pet him. So I let them, but I had to get going, as this pet fest had gone on for a good amount of time. When I went to leave the older of the two girls put up a big fuss (9 Y/O or there abouts). I made my excuses again and she said if you leave, I'll kill your dog. I looked into her face and saw that she was pretty serious. Fortunately, I could get into my car and leave, but it was disturbing all the same....
This is a hot topic, as well it should be. My disclaimer is that what follows is my opinion only.

The way I see the problem is that most of these children were born only as a direct result of sex and not because the parents actually wanted a child. When they find out they're pregnant, they're thrilled because they will "have a baby to love." Well, folks, babies grow up to be children who STILL need you long after they're out of the cute baby stage. These parents have no clue as to how much money, effort, love and perseverance it takes to actually raise a child properly, and they don't want to learn. They still want their own life and their own stuff, and if the children fit in, great. If not, oh well. Who ultimately suffers? The children. And it's a downward spiral problem, because children learn at the feet of their parents. How they are raised is how they learn to raise their kids, and so on, and so on.

I could go on and on (and on and on and on), but I would just be ranting. For hours.

Chris
TylersMom wrote:
When I went to leave the older of the two girls put up a big fuss (9 Y/O or there abouts). I made my excuses again and she said if you leave, I'll kill your dog. I looked into her face and saw that she was pretty serious. Fortunately, I could get into my car and leave, but it was disturbing all the same....


Wow... creepy little brat. Can we say future murderer?

I've had kids spit on me, hit me and all sorts of other rude behaviors. My sister's brat even punched me in the stomach (she doesn't disipline them) because I told him to stay in a room with his mother's house keys. They were about to leave and I didn't want him dropping anything. Of course - I was very quiet and calm with him - I wasn't even angry! Then he punched me... hard. 8O More out of a reflex I bopped him upside the head just because it was close and I wasn't expecting him to do that. I didn't hit him hard - but around the head area is very personal. As much as I couldn't believe I smacked him I couldn't believe he hit me. He was still a little creep though. I think he was probably 6 and I was 12.

He never hit me again though - and neither have I - and for some reason I am his favorite out of my imidiate family. :? Oh well, he is getting better anyway.
Another example- Mike and I were on our honeymoon in Florida, and went on a water ride at Universal. We sat down and were enjoying ourselves. A father and his two children- probably 9 and 7 maybe, were also on our "raft". The children were explaining how much they really enjoyed the ride, and how great it is. Wonderful! So happy to see them enjoying themselves- this is what it's all about, right? Thenn, out of nowhere the little boy looks at us and says" You two are really stupid!" what?! He goes on to insult uas again- while dad SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO HIM!!! does nothing! I coudln't beleive it! If that had been me as a child(which I never would have done anyways!), I would have been instantly reprimanded, made an apology to the stranger, and probably, we would have left the park for a time as punishment. And this guy did bupkis- not so much as a "we don't say things like that!" Grr!!! Schmuck!
Iriskmj wrote:
Another example- Mike and I were on our honeymoon in Florida, and went on a water ride at Universal. We sat down and were enjoying ourselves. A father and his two children- probably 9 and 7 maybe, were also on our "raft". The children were explaining how much they really enjoyed the ride, and how great it is. Wonderful! So happy to see them enjoying themselves- this is what it's all about, right? Thenn, out of nowhere the little boy looks at us and says" You two are really stupid!" what?! He goes on to insult uas again- while dad SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO HIM!!! does nothing! I coudln't beleive it! If that had been me as a child(which I never would have done anyways!), I would have been instantly reprimanded, made an apology to the stranger, and probably, we would have left the park for a time as punishment. And this guy did bupkis- not so much as a "we don't say things like that!" Grr!!! Schmuck!


Yikes..my family and I; parents, my boyfriend, sister and sister's fiancee, as well as a friend of mine from MS all went to Orlando last May for vacation. We went to Magic Kingdom, MGM Studios and both Universal Parks. I don't remember any problems with the kids themselves, but the parents. Those people are awfully rude and pushy with those strollers. They practically run you over! And while eating at a place in Magic Kingdom, some guy nearly started a fight with my dad over a table! My dad got a table while the rest of us were getting our food and this guy comes over, moves over our stuff, starts eating, and refuses to move. He finally leaves but it was just ridiculous. He was by himself, he had no reason to hog up an entire table for himself. :P

Tyler'sMom: I can't believe a 9 year old would say something like that, but then it's not really a surprise since I agree with the statement that many parents are too young to be parents and don't raise their children properly or discipline them. Thus their children grow up to be disrespectful little brats that do as they please. As far as irresponsible parents, here's another example of that. The other night I went to the movies with my parents to see Sin City. Now a movie as violent as that, based on a comic book or not, is definetly NOT intended for children. I hate how just because it's based on a comic or is animation some people think it's for kids. A lot of anime is for older people, the same with comics/manga. Yet before it started we saw about 3 or 4 little kids (Ranging from ages 11-12 and under) sneaking in with an empty bucket of popcorn. My dad noticed it and told me. He was an usher when he was a teenager and remembers that trick. Bringing in the empty bucket of popcorn means they're sneaking in after seeing another movie. So he went and told somebody out in the lobby and a few minutes later an usher came and escorted them out of the theater. And before anything *too violent* happened in the movie. I was proud of my dad, I would do the same. I never approve when I see young children brought into movies full of violence/explicit sexual content, etc. There is enough of this on tv already, we don't need them seeing it in theaters if we can help it. The parents of those kids should have been there with them so they didn't have the chance to sneak into a movie like that.
I hate when little kids are allowed to do whatever they please, especially with animals. I have a sister with quite a few animals, a two-year-old son and baby girl :). If her son isn't acting appropriately to the animals (being too rough, etc.) she says, "Gabe! Be gentle!" and demonstrates to him that he should be nice by stroking the animal and whispering, "gentle". Gabe is GREAT with animals. He's simply a wonderful little kid. He isn't allowed to get away with anything. One thing I think that is important when disciplining a small kid is getting down to their level and explaining what they did wrong and why they're being punished.
"I will kill your dog"....isn't that how serial and mass murderers begin?
Most serial killers are diagnosed as being socipaths and one of the precursors for that diagnosis is hurting animals as a child.
Maxmm wrote:
Most serial killers are diagnosed as being socipaths and one of the precursors for that diagnosis is hurting animals as a child.


It's true! 8O It's very creepy - but true.

I hope you took a good look at her - she might be one of them someday. Then when you watch the news in a few years and see her picture you can say "Hey! That's the little brat from the park!"
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