|Daisy is also a barker. The only thing that works for her is when my husband tells her he's going to call the FBI. We've tried everything else to no avail. I have heard of sheepies being disbarked but that seems cruel.|
|My OES rescue Mollie is the queen of the Barkers I've tried everything including a barking collar which does nothing! She continually barks at the dog behind us. When I say continually barks I mean: NONSTOP! Her bark echos throughout the neighborhood.
When I take her on walks and other dogs are barking at her, you don't hear a peep out of her. She barks only in her yard. Other than her barking outside, she is a very good girl.
Anybody have any suggestions, or did a similar thing happened to them? I heard that show dogs are sometimes de-barked. Does anyone know if that is true?
Karen, Mollie and Beau
|Samantha hardly barks at all. In fact, we had her for almost 1 week until we realized that she barked at all!|
|had a rescue afghan years ago, was a retired show dog, with vocal chords cut so she couldnt bark, sounded so pitiful when she tried too|
|Benny is quite the barker too. I think that he barks mostly because he is spoiled and jealous if he isn't getting everyone's attention. I was totally against barker collars.... but my parents bought Benny one as a "presesent". I hate to admit but, it has worked wonderfully.
It is one of the ones that emits a high pitched sound the first time he barks; then if he barks again it emits a low dose shock and if he continues to bark the dose of the shock continues to increase (up to 6 times) and then it will reset itself.
Benny has only gotten shocked once. He is a quick learner! If he has his barker collar he even seems calmer. For as much as I was against them, I don't think that I would be able to live without it now.
Thanks for the info on the collar Jill. I'm going to try it. I'm tired of yelling and pounding things across the devopement to shut these guys up.
|I've often heard that keeping a spray bottle of water on hand and giving them a couple good squirts square in the face accompanied with the command "NO BARKING!" will soon condition them to obey the command alone. However, I have never had an oes with a barking problem, and so I have never tried this. I doubt the dog would like it, but personally I think I would have fun reliving the water-gun games of my youth. If you try this, please let me know how it works.|
|I knew someone who had several of her OES debarked. They could still make sound but it was pitiful. I would explore other avenues first. Karen, there is a place in Birmingham that may be able to help you. They offer classes but I think they do one on one with dogs that have special problems. If you're interested PM me and I'll give you the info.
|My obedience trainer told me to to grab max's muzzle when he barked and close his mouth and say no bark. It seems to have worked. the only time Max really barks is if someone is walking by my house or knocks on the door.|
|Ditto Shelly, that helps a lot because it's the way wolves teach the young pups to behave. That's a signal that they are doing something wrong.
Remember sheepies are very vocal and that they use their barking and grunting to communicate, so maybe your dog IS trying to tell you something. From what I read from your original post, seems that your pup's been training you very well to respond to barking, since she's getting attention every time se barks. Try ignoring her until she is quiet (I know, it's hard) and then praise her for being quiet.
Another route that worked with us was the opposite. Teaching Lennon to bark on command will easily open the route for the "shhhh" command, wich works for us to a certain extent.
|A spritz from a water bottle was recommended in obedience class. Took only one squirt and now all I have to do is reach for the spray bottle. Works on our 14 month old for everything from barking to counter surfing to squabbling with our older OES, Lucy.|
|the spray bottle was the first thing we tried but with her thick sheepie coat it was like she was thinking "oh..was that a gentle breeze that just hit me?" I'm going to try the grabbing her muzzle and saying no bark...Thanks shelley I'm willing to try anything!! I'll let you all know how it works!! ~Twyla|
|Remember sheepies are very vocal and that they use their barking and grunting to communicate,.[/quote]
I had to giggle when I read this.Sasha is the biggest grunter EVER!!!! It's like she is actually trying to talk.
|I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the water bottle thing didn't work for us. The problem? - Charlie LOVES water - however he can get it!
You can try the bark collar but we had a problem when we had 2 dogs - I guess my lab didn't like that the collar was on our other dog and "tweeking" him, so he ate it off of him - twice!
The best thing I found was to simply be firm and show the dog when it is more appropriate to bark. They usually respond well, But again, that's their way of communicating - it's just nature.
|Clyde only barks at night when he wakes up and gets bored-- usually around 4:30 or so. We've also been trying the muzzle grab thing and teling him no bark. It seems to be helping. It definitely stops him at the time it's the initial first bark I'd love to nip in the bud.|
|Please try the spray bottle of water before the collar. I use the water for both barking and jumping and it works wonders. The jumping was harder than the barking but now I keep a spray bottle handy and very seldom have to use it. It's much kinder and gentler than the collars.|
|I find the muzzle thing doesn't work, since the dog is usually outside or out of reach and starts barking. Spray bottle worked well if I was trying to get them to be quiet in the kennel, with a gruff sounding QUIET command...try to sound as dog like as possible. I've also tried the command NO BARK.
What works well for many things, I use a shaker can, a pop can with approx 15 pennies in it. If they are doing something wrong shake the can, and say quiet, no...etc. Works well for me.
|I would not put an electric collar on a puppy.
However, I do think you should nip it in the bud now, before it's too late. If it becomes habit, you'll never break it. A friend of mine seems to have the best solution I've seen, and it worked very well for her. When she got her oes at 16 weeks it had already developed a barking habit, so my friend would firmly hold the pups muzzle (not clamping it, but putting a hand on each side, holding the loose skin, no pressure on the nose) and telling the puppy "Be quiet!" in a stern tone of voice. Not yelling, because that will encourage the pup to make more noise. It only took a week of doing this, and the dog is quiet, but she won't bark to alert to strangers either, which is not necessarily a good thing. You have to be consistent, do it everytime.
I wish I had known how well this works when Dancer was a puppy, because she is yappy now. She barks her head off when someone comes to the door or even walks by.
|So far so good with trying the no bark command I think Sasha is starting to catch on. I just have to stay on top of it as of course first reaction is to just say "HEY!!!!!" thank you for all the wonderful ideas!!|
|I had a relative who used the spray bottle with her cat. It didn't solve the cat's problem, but she said her house was much cleaner from having to wipe up all the over spray! LOL|
|I have been trying the NO BARK command. At first I would grab the sides of her mouth firmly but not enough to hurt her (so she would look at me)and say no bark. Now I only have to use the command. We have seen some improvement, a little work and I think she'll be much better.|
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