I have a stupid question

This is probably a really stupid question, but I'm going to ask it anyway :oops: :oops:

When looking on petfinder I notice that there are alot of Oes Pyr mixes. Why is that? Or are they just guessing because they really don't know.

Just curious. I really can't imagine that mix.

Lisa and Frankie
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It's not a stupid question at all. I'm wondering why too. :lmt: Could be just not knowing the dog's pedigree and just pulling a guess out of the air.

Could be that people that like big shaggy dogs REALLY like big shaggy dogs? :-) Maybe they own multiple breeds and possibly have an accidental breeding or two? Another thought is that an OES-Pyr mix may make a good drovers dog with improved guard-dog instincts so farmers may intentionally mix the two.

The mix of the two breeds can create a handsome dog but it is still a mix. Not sure if it's considered a "designer dog" as most people in that business breed for a smaller dog rather than larger.

Very good question! Any other thoughts out there?
I don't know the answer, but I know that when we were looking for a rescue we also considered puppies. I wasn't really up for spending a lot of money, and would have loved a local pup, and have had an OES mix before and he was SPECTACULAR, so we looked at listings, and there were more than one litter of OES/Great Pyr pups at the time that were within driving distance. So I do think it's become a common cross, but I don't know why.

We came close to getting one, but then Rudy came through and we never looked back....and as for saving money it was nice having the adoption fee instead of a purchase price, but we sent extra (we knew about another sheepie, Baxter, who was near death at the time and wanted to do something to help, even a little)...and paid for a crate, a flight, gas, vet bills, hotel rooms for the drive to Minneapolis, food, etc. A grand total of nearly THREE PUREBRED PUPPIES worth! But I digress...as Rudy is, truly, priceless.

Maybe some other wise person will know the answer.
Lover and owner of both breeds, I have no clue. Each has their own unique personality type, Pyrs are aloof, OES aren't ! :D ( it is funny watching the Pyr try to baffle the sheepdogs....smart girl) Pyrs bark a warning......OK, continually bark a warning but the voices can be tolerable. OES' voice is often........ 8O Pyrs don't play much (they do play and can be quite funny), OES never stop...or so it seems. One sheds, the other doesn't. Both require a boat load of grooming.

All I can think is the love of white heads has lead to an interest is a giant white sheepdog. Nope, no thankyou. Of course, if one showed up at the front gate, it would be brought in, but I would not willingly cross them. Big dogs are not in favor and I suspect many of these giants are being PTS.
Maggie McGee IV wrote:
Another thought is that an OES-Pyr mix may make a good drovers dog with improved guard-dog instincts so farmers may intentionally mix the two.


GOD NO!!!!!!! :twitch: :twitch: :twitch: :twitch: :twitch: :twitch:

Two distinct jobs. A well bred, well raised Pyr is a very useful guardian than can't be improved by mixing with an OES and, with apologies to the breed I love, if you're a farmer, a REAL farmer, you want a real herding dog, with real honest to goodness proven breeding for working ability and, sorry, our breed just ain't it :lol: :lol: :lol:

If someone is mixing these intentionally they need their head checked. I'm hoping it's just shelters that can't ID dogs very well and that it's become an en vogue mix for the them. I also noticed a stretch when there were a lot of OES/BC puppies advertised on petfinder, but I think that too was probably more an ID issue than anything else. Certainly the BC is in no way improved up on as a working dog by being mixed with OES and an OES is in no way improved upon as a pet by mixing with a BC. Unless you feel an absolute need for big, hairy paw prints on your ceiling I guess ;-)

Kristine
[quoteCertainly the BC is in no way improved up on as a working dog by being mixed with OES and an OES is in no way improved upon as a pet by mixing with a BC. Unless you feel an absolute need for big, hairy paw prints on your ceiling I guess

][/quote] :lol: :lol: :lol:

Or a herder who singles out a ewe and then starts playing with it.
SheepieBoss wrote:
[quoteCertainly the BC is in no way improved up on as a working dog by being mixed with OES and an OES is in no way improved upon as a pet by mixing with a BC. Unless you feel an absolute need for big, hairy paw prints on your ceiling I guess

]
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Or a herder who singles out a ewe and then starts playing with it.[/quote]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good one!!

KB 8)
I didn't mean to imply that it was a good idea to mix the two breeds but people that do have done so for stranger reasons. :wink:
I know of at least 3 "breeders" in the NC/GA area that are purposely crossing the two breeds.
(well, I don't know them but, have heard of them)
You will see ALOT of them in the Atlanta area :cry:
That is where our Donner came from...
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I wonder how many are just incorrectly identified.
Probably a lot of them are misidentified BUT, since a mix breed (a lot of times from shelters) do not come with a history all you can do is guess!
You know... I remember seeing there is a person in Wisconsin (?) purposefully breeding OES and Pyrenees crosses. I think mom is the OES and dad is the Pyrenees. I think her webpage mentioned how they are just the cutest fluffiest dogs ever.
I must admit the pictures of the OES/Great Pyr pups we were sent (back when we were scouring the continent for a rescue) were so unbelievably cute. It was like the cutest part of both breeds came out in the pups. Part of me wishes we'd gotten Rudy AND one of them.

I know many people feel strongly about purebred dogs, and four out of five of our sheepies have been, but we've always been very open to a mixed breed sheepie, too. It's invariably been more about who is available when we're ready. There are lots of purebred breeders around, so finding a pup from someone you like (or think you like) wasn't hard. Ooops litters don't happen in a predictable pattern so it was just hit or miss.

Now that we're hooked on rescue dogs I imagine we'll have some wonderful sheepie crosses in our future. Or purebreds. We're easy.
I Know aren't they adorable. There is a girl on petfinder named cricket. AWWWWW
I really want her.

I'm getting together this weekend with the lady that runs our Pyr rescue I'll have to mention it too her. She's strictly a Pyr person everyother dog is no good in her eyes. But I'll still ask her. She has 3 Pyr pups coming in to rescue this weekend, I must be strong. I can not foster due to Frankies health issues.. Right?

Lisa and Frankie
babysheepie wrote:
I Know aren't they adorable. There is a girl on petfinder named cricket. AWWWWW
I really want her.

I'm getting together this weekend with the lady that runs our Pyr rescue I'll have to mention it too her. She's strictly a Pyr person everyother dog is no good in her eyes. But I'll still ask her. She has 3 Pyr pups coming in to rescue this weekend, I must be strong. I can not foster due to Frankies health issues.. Right?

Lisa and Frankie


Where is Cricket located?
http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/16957015

Mountain Home AR

Her profile was updated on July 31st, It says she now has tested heartworm positive, and Ehrlicia positive.

She is just adorable.

Lisa and Frankie
Well, the good news for her is that she is already with a rescue group!
I did see her the other day, she is sure a cutie!
Looks like she is very well taken care of now :clappurple:

Poor thing, at least the heartworms are treatable.
Ehrlicia will have lasting effects though :(
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