Old English Puppy
Any information you give would be a great help for me and the future OES. |
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| A good, high quality food for large breed dogs would be what you should look into. There are members on the board who use the RAW diet as well with good results. I use Taste of the Wild for my dogs. The biggest items you should consider are; The size of an OES. A small puppy can grow into a large dog that will require some space and LOTS of training. The coat care. OES don't shed, but they do mat easily if you don't give their coat adequate brushing. The are a 'velcro dog'. If you would prefer to have an independent dog, and OES may not be for you. They will want to be with you ALL the time, this can be a lot for some people to cope with. They are lovely dogs, very loyal, and very sweet. If you think you are prepared to handle the bigger obstacles of the breed then you won't be disappointed with their affection level! |
| I know mostly what to expect as I'm always doing research and I'll get a book on OES's this weekend. I have more time on my hands now with a change of job. where i take my 2yr old dog to walk theres alot of water, how are OES's around water? do they need a specific shampoo when being cleaned? i will take him to a dog groomer but as we all know dogs get messy, i currently use wipes on the fur a couple of times a week and bath only when he really needs it (dont want to take natural oils away). How are OES's around other breeds? I've met a few and they've always been lovely around my collie cross. I can imagine it now my collie cross and the OES herding my nephews |
| Some of these questions really would apply to each individual dog rather than as a breed in general. I have one dog that loves water and another that doesn't. He has had no negative experience with water, he just doesn't care for it. There are different shampoos that you can use. There is a whitening shampoo that you can use for the whites of the dog. It also depends on what shampoo your dog can tolerate. There are some OES on this board with skin allergies. I would hazard to say that the breed ideal would be for an affectionate, friendly dog. However, not all dogs, whether through neglect, negative experience, or poor breeding may not tolerate other dogs well. Just be careful with your nephews! Herding a child should not occur! This is how accidents can happen, like knocking over the boy accidentally or nipping. You don't want the boys to be afraid of the dogs or the dogs getting injured in the process either. |
| Thank you so much for your help I now know where to come if i have anymore questions. |
Most of them really like water. Mine REALLY does, it's like an irresistable magnet.  As far as the coat - it can vary. It is supposed to be a thick, fairly harsh, course coat. You do see some w/ a silky shiny coat - in poorly bred dogs. BYB types, mostly. For little cleanups a wet wipe will work, mostly it won't. Usually 2 options. Use water and wash it, or let it dry and brush it out. With this breed the length of coat is totally an option. Some are shaved almost naked, some are long and a big shapeless hairy blob - and anywhere in between. The hair grows and grows, so any style that fits your lifestyle is possible. There are many, many posts here on grooming and bathing, as well as haircuts. Many wonderful pictures too. An OES should be a friendly, confident dog. If there is a squabble, I have found it is most often started by the other dog, not the OES. And I believe mostly it is because the other dog is not used to the OES look - they are big and hairy, the profile looks more like a bear than a dog, the eyes may be covered by hair (unable to "read" the dog), and the lack of tail also makes it hard for other dogs to correctly read the OES's body language. Most dogs do great, once they meet and are reassured this is a real dog.  |
| Well docking is illegal here in the uk. Your OES picture looks cute and ideal fur length. I've got plenty of time to do lots of research before i get one because it wont be until after my holiday. my dog is very good with other dogs as i took him to kennel club puppy school and i will do the same again, I think my dog will be a good example for him too. I love dogs that are active, big and cuddley and unlike cats they give u so much love. |
| My girls are in love with the water. At 2 years old they just learned how to swim, and we can hardly keep them out of the water now. Up until this point, they've been obsessed with the hose and their kiddie pool. However, unless they swim in a pool, they get a full bath afterwards. "wipes" just don't do anything to penetrate the thick coat, and when they swim in our stream or our trainers man-made pond, they come out pretty smelly and dirty. Right now their coats are short, so swimming and clean up afterward is easier. They just hop in the shower with me. Once they get their full coats growing in, I'll restrict their swimming as they will mat up pretty quickly, and washing up requires a trip to the dog-wash or groomers. A note here; check out the price for a Sheepdog grooming in your area. Many of us learn to do it ourselves partly because of the extreme cost. I have OES sisters, and each one at the groomers is $125. I have them done professionally twice a year, and when they mats get beyond my ability to work out. But otherwise, I try and do my own grooming to save money. |
| We got our first oes, Mady, this past January, so things are still very fresh and new for us. I had not seen this board prior to getting her, but the many conversations with Amber, the breeder who gave us our lovely pup, gave me alot of information, plus I had done considerable reading. There were issues that I thought that I was prepared for, but which still managed to surprise me a bit. One, believe it or not, and despite all that Amber told me and all that I read, is about matting. I swear to God a mat can appear instantaneously. Luckily, (well, not luckily, just through persistence) we have been able to stay on top of it, but Mady is only 7.5 months, so I think that it will get more challenging. Also luckily, we discovered that the Maniacal Groomer lives just across the river, so I feel good knowing that we can ask him for guidance.  But even still, you do have to make time for grooming. It isn't something that you can just let go for a few weeks if you are busy. And don't forget the ears! We didn't groom her ears and the groomer had to shave them, they were so matted at the bottom. I felt terrible about that. Just didn't think that the ears would get mats...Another surprise was the whole 'velcro' dog thing. My husband requires no personal space at all, so he just loves it. I am pretty cuddly too, but, geez, sometimes a lady needs to be in the bathroom without a small bear in there with her! It took a bit of getting used to. I can't wash floors, vacuum, clean my house, cook supper, read a book, nothing without Mady attached to me. Having said that, I wouldn't change it for the world, but it did take some getting used to. Then there is the whole Mady is a rock star issue. We have yet to see another oes in Ottawa (that will change soon, playdates pending), so I don't know if this is just what happens with a sheepie, but we can't walk a block without someone wanting to fuss over her. She is a star in the neighbourhood and because it is quite an urban neighbourhood there is never a shortage of people. This is wonderful, but sometimes we are actually trying to get to the market to shop and Mady's adorableness prevents this. Lastly, and this great wall of text will end, I highly suggest making time in your life when you get your puppy for training. If you invest the time at the beginning, it will pay off beautifully. Between grooming, exercise, training, and the velcro factor, you will be attached to your dog at the hip (unless you are at the dog park, of course). It has been life changing for us (did I mention that I lost 25 pounds since getting Mady!!!!) and even though we have only had her for six months, I can't remember what life was like without her. I am excited for you! Oh, one last thing, and you only have to read these forums to get a sense of it, but the clown factor is strong in this breed, so be ready to giggle alot. Damn, this all makes me want to get another puppy.... |
| I am the same I dont see alot of OES's here but when i do my heart melts and i cant help but go over and fuss them. I have a dog and from day one he attached himself to my feet. I've also had two dogs at the same time before and it was wonderful watching them play together and looking out for each other like brothers (even though they was different breeds). I love the love that dogs give back and as I always had dogs all my life i like to think i know what to expect. Sammy was abit different from my previous dogs. He was stubborn (like what I'm reading about OES's) and I had to take him to a puppy training class but it was a brilliant thing for us both. Also I really like that people here are so helpful and I'm really glad I found this website to assist me. Grooming isn't a problem and neither is walking. I really cant wait to get one but I'm just trying to make sure I'm ready to make my home a nice, happy and prepared home for him. |
| In addition to my last message I'm so excited someone has got back to me to comfirm that they will have some puppies ready in october |
Yay!! I am looking forward to October and some puppy pictures! Speaking of puppies, off we go to the dog park.  |
| how do i put photos up? I have Ollie already. the lady that emailed me way back never got in touch with me after they was born so i looked else where. and he is beautiful. I got him yesterday and hes settled in very nicely and my other dog is playing mother haha. |
| Congratulations on your new puppy! If you visit this address, you'll find information on how to upload pictures. viewtopic.php?t=1119 |
 we love oes dogs. Our first dog was an oes cross and she was the most obedient dog you could wish for. our second was a pure oes but sadly she died aged 6. We now have Summer and she is adorable. Very obedient (when it suits her) very well groomed (not!) a diva (dont see oes round here) a velcro dog (handy in cold weather). She is slightly smaller than most oes, much to hubbys disgust! But as he never picks up after her or grooms her it shouldnt matter to him. Most oes seem to have sensitive tums though, well all our 3 have. They do like to herd small children we have to keep grand kids away from Summer. But I know on this forum foilks have introduced oes to babies so that is probably our fault. |
| Here's my Ollie, I took this the day I got him, he's 10 weeks old here and after laying in the rain this morning he's certainly not that white now haha. He's got his second lot of jabs today yay!!  |
| So cute! Love his eye patch! Sheepdog puppies look just like little stuffed animals...then they turn quickly into hairy beasts so enjoy him!!! Time goes fast and they grow like a weed. Good luck with your new pup! |
| Very snuggly looking puppy! Enjoy the puppy time, it really does zoom by in a flash. |
| Ollie is adorable. Love the eye patch! Yes the puppy moments are special and are gone before you know it! Enjoy- |
| i've seen that look before, beware, ollie has the devil in him. |
Ha ha, I agree! Those little cute balls of fur can surely be the devil in disguise  |
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