Urination Issues

I have had my Sheep Dog for about 2-3 months. I love my dog (Lexington) and I am very impressed how quickly the dog has been trainined. Lex has done fantastic with potty-training. However, on occasion I will let him outside to eleviate himself, which he does but then he will come in and 15 minutes or so he will urinate on the floor. It is very clear that he knows this is bad behavior because he will generally crawl under something and he has that certain look that you know he did something wrong. I have noticed that this generally happens when he gets inpatient of during playtime. I am at my wits end as to what to do. There is too much information out there telling you what and how to discipline your dog. Nothing seems to be working and I would like to remedy this problem! Any advise would be most appreciated.
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Joe
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Go outside with him. Put him on a leash and walk him around to go potty for around 20 minutes. If he hasn't peed enough to your liking (lol :oops:), keep walking. When he does pee, reward him. "Such a good boy!!! Good boy!!" and give him a treat (try something like hot dog or liver treats--mouth-watering deluctibles (sp?)).
I feel the issue is much deeper than this. There are times when he gets frustrated that he will acutally look at me and urinate knowing dog well that this is inappropriate behavior. I am so furstrated!
How old? If he's a pup, they don't gain complete control until they are older.......accidents happen. If older, he may have a UTI, urinary infection and just can't help it. Stop at the vet's and get a sterile collection jar and then get a sample (good luck, LOL) and have it diagnosed.

How does he know it's bad? Do you scold him? Show displeasure? Maybe the trick is to clean it up without any emotion, words, etc.....almost as if you had dropped some water.

Reward good behavior, ignore the bad. Clicker training uses that technique. When they do something right, they are rewarded, otherwise, nothing, nada, zilch.

If this is an older dog who you've adopted, there are still issues he has to work out with you. Tell us more about him.
I'm no expert by any means but, from what I've read, you should take your dog out and walk him around for no more than 5 minutes or so to do his business. Any more than that and he'll never learn to go in a reasonable time. If he is only a few months old, sometimes they just don't know that they have to go. When Clyde was that age, often we would go out and he would pee, then we'd come inside and 10 minutes later we'd have an accident, and sometimes even another one shortly therafter. Frustrating but normal for a young puppy! Have any of his other habits changed recently? If he isn't young, I'd definitely start with a trip to the vet to check for the UTI.
Spike is very good about letting me know when he has to go pee (by being a royal pain in the arse, to put it bluntly), but sometimes when playing especially in the evening he'll have to go out every 15 minutes. I'd just start taking him out every 15 minutes if that's the increment of time he takes from peeing outside to peeing on the carpet. It can be annoying but eventually he'll understand that letting you know he has to go outside is the way to go. Spike is 12 weeks old tomorrow and hasn't had an accident inside in weeks because I watch for the signs and monitor his water intake when he's running around the house outside of his area.
He may very well know that it bothers you. If he has done it and gotten a rise out of you, he may do it again because you react strongly to it.
If he clatters around, licking at his bowl and you put food in it. He'll probably do it again. Same thing with this.
Next time it happens, react calmly by walking him outside, no eye contact, no yelling or big reactions. Also, don't let him see you clean it up.
If a dog is scolded for peeing, some just decide it is bad to pee, not understanding it is bad to pee*in the house* and so they won't pee in front of you at all anymore, not even outside. It can make a mess of housetraining.
Excellent advice so far and yes definately go outside with him and lots of praise. Don't just open the door and let him out. A bit more more involved but you'll reap the rewards for years to come.

Urninating is marking their territory in dog life although most don't do it in their own living quarters. You may be giving human like thoughts to your dogs when you think...he should know better...or he seems to know he did something wrong. Lexi may be picking up that you are upset but may not quite understand why.

As bothersome as it may be...start from scratch again...rain or shine have a pair of shoes handy by the door and go outside with him..night and day for the next week or so...lots of praise and use one word consistently. Eventually he'll get it when you use the word as you are opening your door and no longer have to go out with him.

You may want to sop up the urine with newspaper and then place that outside the first time. Lexi will smell it and perhaps get the idea this is what you want me to do. Leave the newspaper in that same place for a while. You may also consider the walk around the block where he will urinate on top of where other dogs have done so in the past week as they leave signals for each other. He'll empty his bladder but as going for a walk 24/7 is not always feasible ...go outside with him at first.

Make sure the area where he previously soiled is cleaned and no smell remains..vinegar solution is good.

Best of luck to you!.
I fuuly understand your fustration. With Luna we had many problems with her , We could walk with her for 15 to 20 minutes and she would no pi. Or you left her outside for an hour and would come in and pi.
The more you walk her at the more she gets used to do it on the walk. She gets to know her routine and will do it then. Like people say dont just open the door and let her out. Luna is 8 months old and still has her accidents BUT the way I look at it she has come a long way. Praise her a lot when she does it outside. Treats work well for any behaviour.
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House breaking The Rules

Housebreaking Rule Number One: This is The Most Important Rule – If you don't catch your puppy doing it - then don't punish him for it!

Housebreaking Rule Number Two: Praise your puppy when things go right. Don't let this be a situation where your only action is saying "No" when they are caught in the midst of using the wrong area. If they do it right – let them know!


These are 2 rules to ALWAYS keep in mind. Your dog is cowering due to your body language and fear of the actions that follow due to your body language. Dogs do not have a good memory. When they urinate and you get mad at them, they are not thinking about the fact they urinated on the floor. All they are learning is their owner is very unpredictable and scary. Use only positive training.
Get blood work done and a Urinalysis done to rule out any medical problems.
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