Cesar Milan's puppy book
 . The course of treatment for this type of cancer is 25 chemotherapy sessions. Our Oncology Vet told us it would probably give her 6 months - 1 year if we were lucky. After many, many hours of tears, we have decided not to put her through the chemo. We are spoiling her every minute and dread the day when her health fails again. We will then have to take that "horrible step." We had been planning on getting a new puppy for her since last St. Pat's Day we had to send our marvelous 13 yr.old Maltese, Mac, over the rainbow bridge due to an inoperable tumor. Now for some brighter news.... We are preparing to bring home our adorable OES male puppy in mid-May. We are aware of the many hours of training, playing and grooming this breed and our very excited to welcome this lil guy into our family. (I will retiring from teaching next June and hope to train him as a pet therapist to read with children.) Here is my question.... Are you aware of Cesar Milan's book, How to Raise the Perfect Dog = from Puppyhood and Beyond? If so, what are your thoughts about it? I recently purchased it from Amazon.com along with one of his videos. I am excited to be a member of this OES group and I'm sure you'll all be hearing much more from me as soon as we get our "babe". P.S. Do you know if there is a way to change your user name? Happy Spring to all! |
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| I'm not a huge fan of Cesar Milan; and my friends and I will argue about it to no end. I bought and read the following Puppy books when I was preparing to bring my two OES girls home: THE ART OF RAISING A PUPPY by the Monks of New Skete. Now I've heard a lot of people disagree with some of their training methods, and I'll admit I didn't use many them (if any, of them; I cannot recall). What I liked about this book was how it broke down what is happening with pups at different ages, and what you can expect from them. That was REALLY insightful and helpful in my opinion. A friend that was a breeder recommended YOUR OUTTA CONTROL PUPPY by Teoti Anderson. It had lots of great training suggestions for basic puppy behavior. Sort of a "buy it and read it BEFORE you have an out of control puppy" type of book. I also bought PUPPY PRIMER, 2ND EDITION by Brenda Scidmore & Patricia McConnell. I recall liking this one a great deal as well. And as silly as it sounds, I used PUPPIES FOR DUMMYS alot more than I ever imagined I would. Any weird behavior, and I was thumbing through the index, looking up whatever it was and reading the passage that appied to my question. I've since handed my copy off to a friend that got a puppuy, and he still thanks me for it. If you have trouble finding anything, try the dog-specific website www.dogwise.com And congratulations and good luck with your new pup! |
| I agree, read several books. You'll learn patience, how to be a leader, attitude .......and with sheepdogs, you'd better have a good sense of humor. Mostly you'll learn these aren't little people and can't be raise the way you would a child.......they are dogs and react differently. I've used several of Cesar's methods and been very pleased, but haven't had the need to use the more extreme methods....the ones that people complain about. I'm sorry to hear about your 'doodle.  It is an awful disease. We treated the first dog to come down with it, and as soon as the chemo quit, the lymph nodes were right back up again. He lasted about 6 months after. The second dog we did as you are doing, just love. Her sister kept her going probably longer than would have been expected, but when she "ran down" we gently sent her over. I'm paranoid about feeling lymph nodes for fear I'll detect something swollen. |
SheepieBoss wrote: Mostly you'll learn these aren't little people and can't be raise the way you would a child.......they are dogs and react differently. I couldn't agree more! Reading these books, then getting the pups and continuing to read books showed me that the biggest mistake was to treat your puppy like a child in a dog costume. These are beings with brains that work very differently from our own, and differently from how you'd expect them to. I think the biggest surprise was when a book explained that "no" wasn't a command, and wasn't really something dogs comprehend. They respond to the tone of voice, but don't really process what "no" means. There's no comprehension of a negative, or a lack of a command for dogs; instead, you have to give them a command that counters the activity you don't want them to do. Dog going for the trash can? Don't say "no"; teach them to "leave it" and then you have a command that counters the activity. Is your dog taking your shoes? Instead of "no"; use the command "trade", where you teach your dog to give you what they have, and in return you give them a more appropriate chew toy. Or you can teach them "drop it"; also a useful command for when you play fetch! A lot of our commands are multi-purpose; "leave it" might be the most useful thing we ever trained my girls to comprehend. Seriously; you're very smart to be looking into these books NOW, before your puppy is home. So many of us start reading when the poop has hit the fan, and by then we're already frustrated. You'll be ready for what your puppy throws at you... or at least most of what your puppy will do. Expect to be surprised, no matter how prepared you feel! |
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 Thank you - Thank you -Thank you. I knew this was the place to come for great advice! I am going to stop at my local bookstore after work today and search for the recommended books! Anxious to do more reading! We are also going to enroll our pup in Obedience Classes and want to do Agility with him as well. We have a marvelous Dog Training Center here in the North Hills of Pgh PA. Molly (our Goldendoodle) loved it there and we learned so much from not only the Instructors but the fellow dog owners too! Happy Spring!!!!P.S. Family and I are trying to decide on a name... Right now, it's between Kirby and Cosmo. I love the name Kirby so am hoping "Kirby" wins :0) |
| Just remember a praise & reward method of obedience training brings on positive results a lot faster that a jerk & NO method. Also, reserve jumping until growth plates have settled un. These dogs take awhile to grow/mature. No sense tyring to rush training in these areas only to ruin joints. |
| Hi Marilyn - Thanks for your advice. When do you suggest agility training should begin with an OES? I did intend to do some research before enrolling him. I haven't had a chance to review all of the wonderful info on this forum! Thanks again, Jackie |
Jackie Grecco wrote: Hi Marilyn - Thanks for your advice. When do you suggest agility training should begin with an OES? I did intend to do some research before enrolling him. I haven't had a chance to review all of the wonderful info on this forum! Thanks again, Jackie My understanding is that bone growth is mostly done, and it is safe for OES to do jumps at 12 months. I remember waiting to do Agility with my girls as well. Some places will offer Agility without jumps for young dogs, and dogs with hip issues. I know the Agility we did end up going with was very laid back; not competition oriented but more "fun for all" type stuff. I know now that had I asked it, I could have just run my girls around the jumps, and no one would have minded. |
| I like a lot of the basic philosophy of Cesar. It helped us tame our crazy dogs, and I use the "being a calm assertive leader" stuff all the time. We also insist on waiting for calm submissive energy before starting anything. Changed walk time from a nightmare to an almost joy in a day or two total. We also read Puppies for Dummies. We borrowed it from my MIL, and her puppy had basically shredded it...the irony was not lost on me. I think a great idea is to read as much as you can, and take what you like best from all of them. |
| i love it. take the best ideas from sources available. nice advice by everyone. |
| Also you might want to check out the library for books before purchasing books. Good ones you can buy and others that may only have one good chapter - read make notes and send back *grinning that you didn't buy the book*. I found some good ones that after reading I wanted to keep a copy at home and others (especially the one that had OES in her top 10 worst dogs to own) happy to send back to the library. Each person will find they bond with a different teaching method or style of writing so the library is easy on the pocket book. Have fun. |
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