mY zIGGY BIT ME!!

Hi everyone
i am so......not even sure how to feel!
We were having our night time together play/before bed sort of thing when i decided it was time for bed so I told ziggy to go to bed like I usually do, and he has been so good about it before! and he just refused, so I started to pet and rub his back and lead him in to his room, and he bit me in my arm. I felt so afraid, but didnt want to show it, and then mad, but didnt know what to do and now I am so confused! My arm is all scratched and swollen(no stitches needed) but what do I do? We have kids in the house, and all of this was going on with out the kids, they are already asleep! So can I trust him now? should I be concerned/ I know some go with the believe that if a dog bites once,get rid of it! But I just dont know what to do now
suggestions Please
Thanks
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How old is Ziggy?
Is this a puppy thing or an attitude thing?
Wel,, attitude maybe either way!

This can probably be worked through but,
need to see where the probem stemmed.

If you have kids around him, please never leave them
unsupervised.
I'm very sorry you're going through this. It can be quite frightening to be bitten by your own dog. I know, I had a big boy who bit me quite a lot. I don't know enough of the details either, but you should have him checked by the vet. If he isn't feeling well, this might be a cause for him to bite. He should be checked physically and for bloodwork including thyroid levels.

How old is Ziggy?
Is Ziggy neutered?
Were you leading him to his room by the collar?
Were you playing with him on your own bed?
When you were playing, had he been "all riled up" by the play which you then ended abruptly?

I don't have any answers or big suggestions yet, just trying to understand the situation. I would say that I probably agree with the suggestion not to leave the kids unsupervised around Ziggy at the moment. How old are the kids?
I did miss alot of important info! Ok he is 17 weeks, so not neutered yet, we were not playing in my bed, we were in the living room area and it wasn't wild play, we were working on his tricks and he showed no more interest in playing, he was stretched out on the floor and i was rubbing his tummy, that is when i decided (because I was tired too) that it was time for bed. the kids are 14, 11, 6 and 2. and like I said they were all upstairs when this happened. I will talk to my vet, see what she suggests. Thanks for your input!!!
I would also contact his breeder if you haven't already. In fact, the sooner, the better. Talk it out with him or her. They should know their line and have some ideas what you may be dealing with.

Neutering him won't change anything since he isn't even old enough to try to blame his behavior on testosterone. But something's going on. Hope you can get to the bottom of it.

Best,
Kristine
Did he clamp down, bite repeatedly or bite once and release?

Was there any warning before the bite such as a growl, curled lips or stiffening of the entire body?

How did he behave immediately after the bite? Did he remain staring, stiff or submissive? Did you yelp?
I second what Kristine said - talk to your breeder for some insight. Also have a vet check him out for any pain issues. Was there food involved in the tricks?
Did you grab the collar to lead him to bed? Did you try to physically force him?

How is is recall? Does he come when called? Will he respond to treats? Training to come immediately is necessary......at 17 weeks it's still a work in progress, hence asking if a treat will work. If so, bribe him into action. Never grab a collar until you are absolutely sure your dog will not react unfavorably. My Jack is, what about 7, and I still can not lead him by grabbing his collar if he senses I'm angry or he is confused.

If this was a play reaction, "let's keep playing" you need to learn to recognize when he is at rest and when he is still "keyed up" waiting for the next play action. If he was a coiled snake, just waiting, then the grab on the arm was part of the play. Then a "No" or other negative sound you develop denoting displeasure......and walk away leaving him alone was in order.

I'm concerned with a young child and a nipping dog. He's a pup and until you can get him out of this nipping, the younger children can not be left alone with the dog and the older ones must be taught how not to over excite the pup...good luck there.
At that age it's not necessarily something that can't be fixed. Every dog we've had has tried snarling/barking/asserting once. If you make it clear by your response that you are unhappy, and in charge you can get him on the right path. I've done the alpha roll (not everyone agrees with that) until they stop fighting and submit. I've also simply stood over them, chest out until they back away and sit, then lay down.

It works to establish that you are in charge and that biting is not ok.

At his age he's totally worth the investment. You may need to work on this for a bit, but it's fixable.

By all means, talk to your vet, breeder, trainer, etc.

And in the interim, keep your kids supervised at all times. He may be over stimulated/cranky/tired and that could lead to problems.

Also, just in case, you might want to have him checked out. He could have injured himself playing, and this may have been a guarding behaviour, or you accidentally touched him where it hurt.

Good luck to you all.
Hello everyone, thank you all for your shown interest. When we got Ziggy we realized that many things needed to change, and so far our family has adjusted to these changes for the good of our pup. since day one we have given him his space, his time for play sleep and family time. I realize that it can become hectic at times and he could get overwhelmed and worked up. He has been a good boy, really good. He will stand outside his crate when he is ready for a nap! we always supervise when he is out and my little one is around. we dont take any chances! and even if the kids are not around i still supervise because he is like a baby, putting everything in his mouth.
Now looking back I think he might not have been ready to stop his play/cuddle time. He did curl his lips and kind or growl, all while in a sitting position, that is when i started rubbing his back and guiding him toward his crate room. he bit my arm,I yelped loud and said no, he let go and then as soon as he let go he went for it again,so I said it loudly "NO" and he let go. Once in his crate he didn't cry, complain or make a fuss. we are to start a great puppy program that comes highly recommended, however the start date is not till mid march!! my vet has been very help full, as well as you all
Just a thought...Until you can begin puppy classes, you may want to get a couple of private lessons.

When my daughter got her Am Bull Dog, Domino, she knew that she needed guidance right then and there~~the puppy classes didn't begin for 6 weeks (and Dom was only 8 weeks), so she called the trainer of the puppy classes and asked for some private lessons that she could practice until class.

It was a very good decision for her. When they began classes, Dom was more settled and focused AND the trainer was familiar with her so she knew how to help my daughter while in the class.....

Good Luck~~~~~ :D
^^^
I did the same thing while waiting for a session to begin. What they learn by 14 weeks is there forever and they don't seem to lose it like they do what they learn afterwards. Its a very important time for brain development.
ohhhhh 17 weeks says it ALL!!! Your puppy is starting to exert his wishes and he's teething. They bite on you, your clothes, the furniture...everything! I wore the same clothes for about 4 months straight. Our puppy literally tore those clothes to pieces!!!! I was SO BRUISED!!! Then she stopped teething and never bit me again.

Wear protective clothing. Be sure to distinguish good behavior from bad (with a yip or removing yourself from puppy's presence. When you can't take the biting and bad attitude anymore put your puppy in the crate for some time out. NEVER, NEVER release your puppy from the crate or confinement because he whined or barked. When puppy is calm and relaxed release him from the crate and take him out to potty immediately.
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