pregnancy stages

hello, does anyone knows a little bit more about pregnancy in bobtails?
my dog is pregnant ( 54 days) and this morning she had smth like vaginal discharge ... but she still eats.. is it premature?
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Discharge is normal at the end of a pregnancy. She is just losing her mucous plug. If the discharge however is ever green or black, before she has had her first pup seek veterinary help immediately as this means there is placental seperation.

You should now be taking her temperature 3x a day (morning, noon and evening) When her temperature drops 1 full degree without going up in the evening, she will start labour within 24 hours. My girls usually drop to 98.5, but every bitch is different which is why it is important to start at least a week before her due date so you will see her temp pattern and know when that temp drop has happenned.

There is so much more that is essential to know when whelping a litter of pups that I would be here all day writing. I suggest you do some reading and have your vet on speed dial in case anything comes up.

I am assuming this is your first litter? Is the breeder of your girl not there to mentor you?
hello.
i do have the vet on speed dial . just in case .... but he told me not to worry .. she will stop eating before getting into labour .
the discharge is not green ...no odor ( sorry for my enghish .. i'm from Romania - eastern europe)
yes this is the first litter ...in romania there're only 6 oes .. so .. no one to mentor me
but thanks ...for the temperature tip ...
i do not know how many puppies there are .. i took her to an ultrasound .. but they said there are too many and they can't count them...
Don't only count on her going off her food. While this is generally true I have had some of my females eat right up to minutes before a puppy came out. Your best thing is to take her temps, watch her closely. When labour is starting you will notice she will probable start nesting (digging up blankets in her whelping box)

Keep us posted.
about the whelping box..
i made some arrangements in the garage for her . ( blankets , a big box.. etc).... but that it's not her usual place ... do you think she might go there by herself..
i let the door open ...
sorry .. i may sound stupid .. i'm a little bit scared
I've only delivered one batch of pups and that was for a stray that found her way into our yard. She was well into the process when I showed up.

So, I have a question for the experts on the forum. Is it too cold to welp the pups in the garage?
I personally would never whelp puppies in a garage. I have a "puppy room" in my house where all the births take place. It has its own seperate baseboard heating so that if I have a summer litter and the Central Air is on in my home, my puppies are still nice and cozy. It is so important to make sure the pups are free from any drafts as well as in a temperature controlled environment.
Whether my pups are born in a bedroom or livingroom it's always draft free and kept around 85-90 degrees for the first week, then I gradually lower the temp of the room.


I know you came here looking for help, and I'm sure lots of us will do whatever we can to assist you for the sake of the pups I MUST mention that I really wish people would learn all these things and SO SO much more before they breed their dog.... so many things can go wrong, it's a huge risk to let your dog become pregnant without knowing how things should be done, how she and the pups should be cared for, knowing about any potential hereditary diseases, and on and on.
Anyway, I'm not saying this to drive you away, you are absolutely welcome here and we want to help you however we can... I'm saying this more for others who may have the idea of breeding their dog without thinking it through and learning all they need to know before such a serious undertaking.
Find a nice draft free room in the house as you need to supervise her the whole time she is whelping, whelping can last for several hours or even more then 24 hours if a large litter also inside is somewhere nice, secure and warm for her to raise and nurse the pups.

Mine ate till they went into labour so some go off there food others dont.

Clear discharge is normal any other colour or foul smelling discharge ring the vet to check her.

Taking her temp gives you an idea of roughly how close she is to going into labour. It drops by 1 or 2 degrees and when it does usually says within a day or two whelping will start.

Mine started at 1.00 in the morning so having her inside with you in her box sleeping in it and getting use to it you are also there by her side in case its the middle of the night when things start happening.

Make sure vet is contactable anytime, that is phone number you can ring if in the middle of the night.

Most important too, I hope you have some literature on whelping to guide you on things like, puppy still has bag over face, to break the bag and also how to clear the mucus from the pups as each one is born so it can breath. Also things like breaking the cord to the placenta, where to break it so it does not cause umbilical hernias, stuck puppy how to help it out, feet first presentation what to do there, green discharge means a distressed puppy still being born, counting placentas after each whelp to make sure non left inside etc etc. Any doubts then call the vet to attend the whelping.

Is there anyone that can help you deliver this litter? Even if it is someone from another breed altogether that has experience in whelping litters, to help and guide you through this? Sometimes too you need that extra set of hands to help out.
Willowsprite wrote:
Whether my pups are born in a bedroom or livingroom it's always draft free and kept around 85-90 degrees for the first week, then I gradually lower the temp of the room.


I know you came here looking for help, and I'm sure lots of us will do whatever we can to assist you for the sake of the pups I MUST mention that I really wish people would learn all these things and SO SO much more before they breed their dog.... so many things can go wrong, it's a huge risk to let your dog become pregnant without knowing how things should be done, how she and the pups should be cared for, knowing about any potential hereditary diseases, and on and on.


Let's remember the cultural and language differences and assume as well that she knows this stuff but is panicking as the time comes closer.

Maybe it would help to move it to members only?
Kerry Aki has come onto the forum as a guest, not registered so if moved to the Members section she wont be able to read the post.

Aki also sounds very inexperienced as to what is happening with her bitch as the most basic of whelping guides explains about the clear discharge that occurs before whelping along with temp taking and explains the basics of the first stages prior to the whelping process starting.

Just hoping she has help from someone experienced as things can and do go wrong and without a full knowledge or someone experienced to help, especially as it is her first time with a pregnant expecting bitch, puppies lives can be at risk or even the mother.

Aki also ultra-sound is no definate guide to how many in there, usually more then seen on the ultra-sound. My last litter showed 5 on the ultra-sound and 9 whelped in the end. It really is just used to confirm there in whelp with no definate numbers in the oven just a guide to roughly how many there with probably a few more tucked up higher.
I have never been lucky with predicting by temperature or by food consumption. Both Sidney and Rowan gave me a difficult time with predicting! And Sidney was surgically inseminated!!! lol She(for sure) went late - thankfully she had Ikoka the morning I was going to give up and have the c-section done!
That being said, I recognize that most bitches don't torture their human companions in this manner and still check temps. 2 - 3 times a day during the last week.
Puppies will be born in the moment you are least prepared and most needing sleep! :D
Good luck with your litter!!!

I'm contemplating another (Sidney just came into heat)...I had planned on breeding her this cycle and had 'interviewed' several studs but since Mojo (my almost 5 yr. old male GSD) is having seizures, just had surgery to remove poss. tumors and has me up at least once an hour every night (my doing, not his - just super-panicky), I don't know if I have the energy/attention for a litter. :?
My co-owners will be peeved if we don't as I had mentioned they could have 2nd pick of the next litter, but fur-babies here are more important than potential future fur-babies. right?
I hope the gal and her pups are doing well....
No advice as I have never had pups or would I know where
to start! :oops:
Hope all goes well......
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