Males Vs Females

This is a hot topic of discussion between my trainer and myself, and something Marilyn said about the qualities of the males in a different thread prompted me to try to start this conversation. I am going to keep my preferences to myself for now - but soem of you definitley can figure it out :D :D
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I haven't answered the survey yet, I'm still thinking.....

I have had all 4 of the dog choices as performance dogs myself. (Probably no one is surprised by this :roll: ) I liked them all.
All were different breeds as well, so it adds up to a real mixed bag.

Growing up, they were Brittanys and they were intact. We did mostly field work (hunting, field trials) as well as obedience and some breed ring. For them, the females were more my favorites. I have better memories of the females I trained, childhood and teen year frustration when they were the males....hmmmm

As an adult:

Spayed female: Jenny, my GSD. Competitive obedience, therapy dog.
She was wonderful! Very bonded and intense.

I will add Maggie - Todd's coonhound. She was spayed as a young adult (rescue dog) and is sweet and high energy. She hunts with intact males and seems to perform just like they do on the night hunts.

Intact female: Macy, chocolate lab. Competitve obedience, therapy dog, played around a bit with agility and lots of hunting.
Very attentive, but stubborn. Sweet, lover dog.

Neutered males:
Simon the basset. Rally obedience and therapy dog. Would have done more, but adopted him at age 6. Very bonded, actually amazingly attentive and trainable for a basset.

Ollie - 1st OES - a toss up, as he was neutered at age 6 for medical reasons, not any behavior issues. Very intense, friendly, high energy. He did herding, obedience, conformation (short time) and LeAnne showed him in 4-H. Also a therapy dog.

3 rat terriers - all neutered as pups - Fudd, Kipper, Riley
All were/are sweet and the calmest rat terriers ever (not related to each other either) They did/do obedience to some degree and 2 were therapy dogs, one will be soon. Pretty easy to train and slightly stubborn.

Intact male: Ollie for most of his life -see above

and CHEWIE!!!
Chewie is so easy to train - especially seeing he is intact. Most people don't even know, as he has all that hair..... :roll:
He is so fun to compete with, and being intact has only done his brain in once so far....and that was when sister Martha (living with us) was in full heat...so???

The family has had many others - all 3 kids trained in 4-H, each had their own dogs covering the 15 years - so lots more! Most were neutered males - labs, min pins mostly, plus a few female (spayed) bassets thrown in there!
All did well for the kids in obedience, jr handling and some basic agility.

See why I can't answer??? 8O
well maybe you can just use chewie since this is an OES forum :wink:
Picky, picky...... :D
here I thought you were stressing the performance and gender issue...

But OK, Chewie and Ollie it shall be! :wink:

Way simpler too :!:
Ooooh battle of the sexes 8) :lol:

My view is the girls seem to have more brain power, more switched on so easier to learn and train and seem to have more up and go then the males..I voted intact female cause the hormones seem to go hand in hand with them and the up and go, de-sexed they seem to mellow a lot not as much spunk.

Having had one male years ago and now another, both were very sweet and gentle but can we say Blonde? :lol: Syd takes awhile to click with things and food over rides everything :excited:
My preference for performance is spayed female. Probably because Melody was my 1st performance dog and she set the standard around here when it came to learning. Might not be a fair assessment either as my OES friends called her my "Border Collie in an OES costume" 8O I do find the girls to be a bit quicker when it comes to learning and they can multi-task. The boys tend to be more concerned with whether they are pleasing you rather than concentrating on commands. To bring it full circle tho' I do have to admit that most of Melody's basic training in all areas came while she was intact. I trained her in both conformation and obedience at the same time until she was 3 years. old. She was then spayed and to be honest we didn't do any formal obedience training for competition until she was almost 6 years old. I can't comment on neutered males as I have never had one. When it comes to conformation, my choice would be an intact male hands down. SOOOOOO much easier to show. A dab of Vick's does the trick when an in-season girl shows up. I don't like dealing wth the hormonal flucuation and moods of the intact girls in the conformation ring, although as a breeder it is a necessity. Both my girls, once spayed, still had a lot of "get out there and show them" but both of them really liked the dog shows too.
well I decided to come back to this topic - of course I voted for intact female :).

My instructor loves to train male dogs but has has trained both males and females and competed in agility with both. Her current dog is an intact male Malinois. Her contention is that males will do anything for you - yes please make me heel more! My contention is that females - especially those with all their hormones are more of a challenge. Anything you get from them is well deserved. Right now I am training three dogs (at some level of committment on my part) an intact and a neutered male and an intact female. I know the intact male has more character and drive than the netered male- but i think that is mostly personality, not hormone driven. Both of them, however would do just about anything to please me and get a little pat on the head.

Now my female, is so aware of the fact that she is smarter than I am, it does make training interesting :) I assume I would be able to bring home more blue ribbos with the boys, but the green ribbons from the girl are so much more meaningful.
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