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I'm wanting to get an old english, but I'm concerned about my other animals. I have 3 cats and 1 papillon. We'll they do okay with cats and smaller dogs? I've read up on them, and it says that they're average when it comes to other animals.

If any one has a small dog and/or cats that live in harmony with their OES please let me know!! :D
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I'd be very careful in bringing in any large breed puppy with your existing tiny dog. Keep in mind, a rambunctious 8 week old OES puppy is already about 14 pounds, full of obnoxiousness and they can play rough. For those reasons alone, a young OES may not be a great fit. Are you open to an older dog?
Mine are fine with cats. Actually they pretty much steer clear of cats. It must be a silent vibe they get from them. As for smaller dogs.............they don't live with any but when we are out & about (say on a walk or at obedience classes or handling classes) & someone with a small dog walks up close, I always tell then not to let their little guy get my my dog's face. Mine have never hurt a little dog but they view them more as a "live" toy! And I can't blame them as they have lots of stuffed toys that are bigger which they are used to playing with & tossing all around. Mine actually go more into a protective mode of "Ok that's close enough to my Mom". Once I let my guys out into the dog run, late at night, & there was a cat in the dog run. They actually chased it to the end of the run & then cornered it & kept it there, staying about 3 feet from it but not letting it get away.
My Gigi was 8 weeks when we brought her home to two shih tzus and a sheltie. Gigi was great with all. Now the younger shih tzu and her are best friends - play and cuddle when sleeping. gigi is about 40 pounds at 5 months now and the shih tzu is 10 pounds. At the beginning they were the same size. now there is another oes pup here and all is well. they get along great - play and seem to know their size factor.

don't tell the sheepies but i think the shih tzu is in charge.
i have a poodle then got my oes they are fine and play great. I have 2 cats and the dogs do learn what they can do and not do very fast.
I have four cats and they do great with our two OES. Asterisk was raised as a puppy with the cats. Wendel had never seen a cat till he came to live with us at 3 years of age.
My cat was about 3.5 years old when I brought in my OES Gracie from a shelter at the age of 1.5 yrs. Joey (the cat) was used to my first OES who was very timid and laid back about all things in life. NOT so with Gracie. Almost 10 years later and the two still play, wrestle and race each other around the house without any issues ever where there would have been a need to separate them. (see avatar of the two :))

Small dogs -- I got nothing for you besides she does well with my sister's small dog, but I don't think that would have been the case say 5 years ago - she plays hard!

Good luck to you!
I've had to introduce one to the home twice now (puppy oes to small 6lb dog).

First off, it depends on your small dog. Is he/she social, NOT timid, etc? My dog was timid, shy, and fragile (small boned like a papillon).

She did great w/our first puppy. Since they come to the house SMALLER than the small dog, it gave my dog time to sniff (behind a gate) and get used to the dog. It WAS hard at first, but after a few days, she was brave enough to walk to the gate while the dog was sleeping. :lol: Then before you knew it... they were chasing and playing. Both dogs were on their toes. OES didn't want to hurt the small dog, and the small dog d idn't want to get stepped on. ZERO problems UNTIL about 2-3 yrs old for the OES when she got a little possessive over toys. NEVER aggressive, rather... refused to share, so only 1 dog ever got to play unless we let the big dog outside. It worked and think it was a great combo.

BUT then we got the second OES puppy who had a totally different personality. I'm glad they only knew each other for a few days because there's no way they could have lived together until that puppy was an adult AND calm (age 2-3). He has no concept of where he steps, where he jumps, and who he is snipping. No and training are a joke when it comes to his mind ...the only thing that works is constantly exercising him, so he's calm. He knows all the basic and even advanced commands and just chooses that the reward or PUNISHMENT isn't work stopping what he's doing. He just wants to be him. :lol: So if that was my FIRST experience between a frail timid small dog and an OES, I would not recommend it. The dog would have had a broken spine or leg.

Overall, I think it can work. In a lot of ways, the small dog/big dog combo is a lot more tolerable than 2 big dogs playing imho.
Oh, we have 2 cats too and it may have taken 6 months before a real comfort zone was there, but they've had no issues. Mine are declawed though. There's constant chasing, and the upstairs are the cats safe zone. They can jump over the cat and relax up there w/o anyone chasing them.

my two sleeping together, and I did not put them together like this:

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My other cat is always licking that same dog and then for fun... running up and hitting her.
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