What do you think of The Duggers

can you beleave # 18 is on its way/ 17 and counting.
I have seen this on TV
My guess is they live off promotions from TV ect and gifts.
No one could support that many children.
They do not come from money.
What do you think?????
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I do think they are genuine... although quirky. :roll:

I have to say-- I can stand them longer than that nut case Kate and her sidek kick Jon. Now THERE is a couple living off of their kids...

I used to watch Jon and Kate plus 8-- but now it is nothing more than a scream fest-- kids and adults alike. I love Madie-- she tells it like it is. She is bratty, but my soul, with those parents it's no wonder. Sorry to hijack your Dugger post with a rant about the Gosselins. :oops:
haven't watched - but they take no government assistance, buy used and get deals. If they are good parents - all the more power to them. I would have done it if I could.
kerry wrote:
haven't watched - but they take no government assistance, buy used and get deals. If they are good parents - all the more power to them. I would have done it if I could.



Yes- they buy at Goodwill and make their own soap and shampoo. They shop in bulk, and make their clothes. The kids all seem well behaved too. Again, a bit quirky but they seem to have tons and tons of love for each other. And I do think they know the value of a buck.
I bet they could teach that mom of 15 a thing or two!!
But I think she has other ideas :x
Yes the Duggers are nice but why do they have to let everyone know that they are going on vacation.
Still getting paid for it.
I am not a put down on them but I for one don't think we need to know everything they are doing.
If they want more children GREAT for them.
Why tell the world???
They actually already had number 18, it is a girl. I can't remember what they named her, another J name of course. I actually think it's fascinating, love watching stuff about them. Amazes me how they can keep things running smoothly....
My thoughts are...not so good hearted as everyone else.

I remember the show about the oldest getting ready to be married. The oldest girls went to help sew the bridesmaids dresses(loved those) and Dad was saying how hard and hairy it was getting with the oldest girls gone.

The oldest girls seem to do the most work...getting dinner, packing clothes, wrangling the younger kids.

I know its supposed to be family, and everyone helps out but...jmo its the oldest girls that make the family run smoothly.

I'll probably get slammed for this but...I think eighteen is obscene.
They left to grt away! LOl my guess.
Bet they have 1-2 children

To me the oldest borger child abuse.
they are made to do way more than the average.....
My opinion is that while it's not my lifestyle of choice, it's theirs and they are entitled to it. I think they're sincere in their beliefs and live them completely.

Part of their beliefs is that female children are raised to learn to help keep house and rear children. Male children work in the family businesses.

Any family (even with one child) who can live debt free (way, way before the TV and book deals came along) is impressive. I admire their patience and dedication to their beliefs. They're not mine by any means, but they're honorable and positive. It will be interesting to see the long term results by what these children become when they're adults.

Just think -- when you open your home up to all these people who are involved in producing a TV show or special, not to mention the millions of viewers, you know you're going to be focused on by any and every body with an interest. So the likelihood that CPS becomes involved in your life has got to drastically increase. If there is any reason to suspect something improper or worry about the children, CPS would be there in an instant and you have to know the press would go nuts for it. I wouldn't want to live under that kind of scrutiny!

I have nothing bad to say about Jon & Kate, either. I think they do a great job relative to what I could do in the circumstances. You think they yell? hoooo boy, ya ain't heard nothing compared to what I'd do!
I have watched one episode of The Duggars, and it was interesting to watch them put together a float for a Christmas parade (or some such). They are very well organized and and the seem quite able to get along, and bring in outsiders when warrented.
I have seen two episodes and I do tend to agree with Simon's Mom. How on earth, with 18 kids, do you even have a shot at giving them the things they need, and I'm not talking about material things? Yes, their house is well organized, which is great, but it almost seems like a "genetic cult" :) , where they are "growing" their own members. The kids are home schooled and it looks like they only socialize with other families that have the same religious beliefs. Unfortunately, I think the Duggar children's world is very small, which is a shame.

I also was bummed to see that the older daughters were basically free nannies for the younger kids. I think that happens on some level with all families, (and I speak from experience, with two younger brothers) but not to this extent. What if a couple of these girls excel in math and science? Something tells me that it won't matter, as they'll be encouraged to follow in their parent's footsteps.

After the dust-up with the Octuplet Mom, at least the Duggars are self-supporting.

Laurie
Somewhere I read that JimBob (the dad) used to own a car dealership, then bought several building to rent to businesses, and at some point served in the state legislature.
While they were building that huge house, they lived in a very small rental. three bedrooms or such. 8O
I admire their organization and love the pantry and laundry room.
It cracks me up when the opening comes on and the mom announces that the kids have very little exposure to internet and TV. Maybe before the series....

As for the Gosselins, I love Aiden. I'm sure the show is edited with certain goals in mind. I've been told that some of the family is very upset with the continuation of the show - the idea being that the kids do not have a normal life. And Paul Peterson is getting involved with his agenda.
I love the way they raise their kids... all well mannered and well behaved, smart beautiful children. They can afford to feed and clothe them decently and provide for their needs physically, and I think emotionally and mentally as well.
Society is turning out more and more dysfunctional children, they grow up in various situations but never having enough of something and things can and do go wrong. Of course things go wrong when an ideal lifestyle is met too, but not as often.
Maybe we'd have fewer criminals and drug addicts in the world if more children were raised like the Duggars', a little more sheltered and a lot more focus on family and love and right and wrong.
Willowsprite wrote:
I love the way they raise their kids... all well mannered and well behaved, smart beautiful children. They can afford to feed and clothe them decently and provide for their needs physically, and I think emotionally and mentally as well.
Society is turning out more and more dysfunctional children, they grow up in various situations but never having enough of something and things can and do go wrong. Of course things go wrong when an ideal lifestyle is met too, but not as often.
Maybe we'd have fewer criminals and drug addicts in the world if more children were raised like the Duggars', a little more sheltered and a lot more focus on family and love and right and wrong.


This is exactly how I feel. ...and I also heard he does well in real estate. I am so impressed by the love in that family. I'd LOVE if one of my kids dated someone in the duggar family. I also think big families can have its benefits too. ...having so many close siblings, there's a lot more accountability imo ...and in their case, it seems they all WANT the best for one another so it's not telling on each other ...rather helping one another grow.
It appears I am the only who thinks this way, but I find the Duggers offensive and weird. I do not think it matters how strong their financial resources are, it is impossible to raise 18 children without a lot of problems. What is particularly troublesome is that a show is produced about these nutty parents and their reproductive habits. A woman's reproductive system is not designed to be a clown car - I am sorry, but that is what she reminds me of. To me, the children look robotic who dress funny and not socialized. They do not appear to have a life commiserate with other playful children, but rather a life of housework and babysitting, and probably believe in some kind of religious extremism to rationalize this behavior. Sorry, but, imho, these parents are kooks who need some head shrinking and birth control.
Yes, definitely a different opinion than most of the people who have replied. :)

I look at all their chores and babysitting as responsibility.

I'd say 18 children was indeed a recipe for trouble and issues "most likely," but for me ...they've proven otherwise b/c you can only hide your true colors for so long esp. when broadcasted on tv from 24-7 footage.

I think if you can handle it and prove to raise your own children in such an other-centered home with ...for them God first... you've proven in my eyes that maybe her body was designed for it and God has blessed her with what her husband and her wanted. I think only a handful of folks could do what she does.

We've been having the debate of homeschooling/socialization and public schools lately at our home, and I find the things they are not subjected to... all for the better. But I'm not hip to a lot of the new school system stuff where kids are brought up to think "outside of the box" with their homework. I prefer the old way. This would be hard for me to explain unless I had some of the homework assignments I see kids get nowadays in front of me to show everyone.

My point is, their old school way of doing things has made them have children people would feel safe an feel good living next to which is impressive!
Joahaeyo wrote:
My point is, their old school way of doing things has made them have children people would feel safe an feel good living next to which is impressive!


I agree, I would feel safe living next to them but, at the same time, I find them very culty and creepy. They seem harmless but, again, at the same time, something feels very oddly off and weird.

Also, I'd only want to live next to them if we're talking about the children once they're grown. I wouldn't want to live next door to 18 kids unless they were all born mute.
ButtersStotch wrote:
I wouldn't want to live next door to 18 kids unless they were all born mute.

:lol:
So... 19th was born at like 25 weeks or something.. 1 pound 6 ounces. I wish the baby luck, but most of all... I hope this is wake up call for mom and dad.
Joahaeyo wrote:
So... 19th was born at like 25 weeks or something.. 1 pound 6 ounces. I wish the baby luck, but most of all... I hope this is wake up call for mom and dad.


Amen Mrs J!

Talk about bad breeding practices. :roll:
I read that today also about baby number 19. Hopefully the baby does well.
Hopefully the parents will finally stop having children.

Lisa and Frankie
I hope the baby is ok :( That's so so tiny
I'm so glad that I don't have 19 children. Insane. I knew a couple who had around that many kids. Their own and adopted. There were some issues. You just can't reasonable spend quality time with them all. There was a resentment between the adopted and non adopted kids. Most of the grown children either don't have kids or only a few because they hated having so many siblings.
My heart goes out to their new little one. Hopefully they are at a great hospital where the baby will begin to thrive.

Unlike many people, I admire the Duggars to an extent. To live debt free and have my 3-yr. old as well-behaved as their children seem would be a wonderful thing! Of course, I do think that parenting might be easier for certain issues when one has multiple children. My son is 10 times easier to watch when we have his little friends visit. He loves to do things in groups - I think this is because of his early years in daycare. Even my daycare provider has admitted that he is much better behaved when he has other kids around. Without them, it is either 24/7 watching or some rather creative 'projects' of his (esp. his murals) :roll: . Of course, if someone was to get sick, I can imagine how difficult it would be with that many kids! 8O

I can't imagine home-schooling that many children. I love my son as much as I love oxygen but I know that my patience becomes frayed when we are together 24/7 for days on end without fieldtrips or visits to friends. I would think the easier road would have been to put them in public school so that she has somewhat of a breather. On the other hand, more public exposure would lead to more illness so perhaps it is a blessing in disguise that she has so much patience!

I like how they all learn musical instruments as well. I have started teaching my son french horn and it is not easy to keep him interested when we have so many distractions around the house. Perhaps we would be better off without tv/internet. I will never know as I can't stand the idea of cancelling either.

I wish I was as organized as they seem. With only my son and myself (and the dogs & cats), I always seem to be playing catch up. I have yet to devise a system that keeps me on top of my paperwork and my laundry. :wink: And, of course, every room has at least a few toys, dog toys and bones. :roll: Ours is a home, not a house.

As none of their kids have medical issues (discluding the latest baby), her body must be able to handle and provide for a healthy pregnancy. It doesn't take much to cause either a miscarriage, damage to the fetus or a difficult pregnancy for mom.

I wish them good luck! I wish them good health! Hopefully, after this little one was born, they will not actively try to get pregnant. If she does become pregnant in the future, I hope that she and the baby(ies) stay/are healthy.
I'm reminded of wise words from my Mom.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
I don't understand why some people think they shouldn't and it kind of annoys me to be honest. I don't feel it's anyone's business to judge how many children someone else has.

Would you rather have 18 or 20 or 40 well raised, respectful, morally decent, caring and most likely successful individuals brought into the world or one or two poorly raised beasts who are criminals, murderers, and a burden on society?

Just my personal opinion....
Ive never seen the show, so I cant honestly say anything about these specific folks and their child rearing practices...but...this reminds me disturbingly of a family up here in Alaska that became very famous a few years back.

They called themselves the "Pilgrims" and were a deeply religious, extremely large family (something like 13-14 kids, i think) who lived in a remote area. They made their own clothes, were self-sufficient, etc, etc, and became famous over a land use dispute with the government (they wanted to cut a road through part of a Nat. park).

Lots of people supported them, and everyone talked about how respectful and well behaved the kids were, how spiritual the family's life was, and so on.

Sadly, this image was shattered when the adult children started talking about the many years of abuse (especially sexual abuse of the girls) by "Papa Pilgrim"

I always found them creepy, myself... :( sad to be proven right, though.

Im not saying that the Duggers are necessarily the same...but the whole LOTS of kids thing seems like a symptom of something to me...kinda like animal hoarding.

Just my 2 cents :?
This is extremism - the woman is a baby factory who believes jesus wants her to keep making babies. IMO, it is sad and abusive towards the children. they wear funny clothes and live isolated while constantly doing "chores." None of those children will receive the attention they deserve. Religion does funny things to people and some take it to extreme. Now one of the sons just married and his wife had a baby that his father delivered - sorry, but that is too weird for words.

Reminds me of the uni-brow women in Utah who take instructions from the father of all those children while he is in jail. They dress funny, their hair is ridiculous, all while this fruitcake "husband" kept fathering droves of children.
Willowsprite wrote:
I don't understand why some people think they shouldn't and it kind of annoys me to be honest. I don't feel it's anyone's business to judge how many children someone else has.

Would you rather have 18 or 20 or 40 well raised, respectful, morally decent, caring and most likely successful individuals brought into the world or one or two poorly raised beasts who are criminals, murderers, and a burden on society?

Just my personal opinion....


They aren't sponging off the government so, in their case, it really doesn't affect anyone other than adding to the general world overpopulation. Living green they are not! The tv show, however, might inspire crazies to pump out more kids that they can't care for a la Octomom. Then again, crazy doesn't always need inspiration...
I've never seen the show either. I do agree with Willowsprite that each person should be able to have as many kids as they want. BUT if you need rely on charity or state aid then you no longer should have that right. Along with that, the mental health of the children should be taken into account. Otherwise, if you can financially support that many kids without sponging off society, your kids seem happy, then why not.

I'm glad I don't have that many siblings. I thought growing up in a family with 4 siblings hard enough. Middle child syndrome :)
I'm conflicted. In past generations we have had large families, although the Dugger's are above the norm..............they have done well.
They are able to support their large family, and the children seem well adjusted and they are able to provide both love and material things that they need.
However, as for the kids to be prepared for the " real " world, I have some concern.
They are not prepared for a life out-side the church, and as such they will face challenges.
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