more/less grooming

I want an OES my husband is willing to settle for a standard Poodle.

Does anyone know which requires more work when it comes to grooming? I am thinking he is worried about grooming and size of the OES vs the Poodle. I know that both are about the same size and both can require a lot of grooming.

How often do you need to bathe a OES? I never really thought about how often one baths their dog until I was reading a poodle needs to be bathed every 6-8 weeks. I spent time looking at brushing and temperments just kind of slipped my mind on the bathing. (I guess I didn't really enjoy trying to get my mom's dog or my cat in the tub so out of sight out of mind).

Does clipping to a shorter coat lenght help and then what is the length of coat and grooming requirements at this lenght?

Thank you for any help that can be offered in regards to the above posting.
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A lot of it depends on you. There are people who bath their dog(s) more than I do. I do brush some part of my OES daily. He is in full coat (check pictures) and stays that way year around. It is a lot of work, I will not lie.

He goes outside, lays in the dirt, runs through the woods, goes swimming, etc. I let him be a dog...at the same time I groom (brush) like crazy.

As for him getting a bath, I do it every 3-4 months. If he started to stink (which has never happened) he would get a bath more often. It just depends on you. Some here bath weekly, some wash the whites then bath the whole dog at a later date. Just depends on you and what is acceptable.

I did shave mine once and wont do it again, my choice. I also live where the temps are not real hot. Brushing is a MUST with an OES, unless shaved. A puppy coat does not require as much brushing as a full coat, but you still have to brush. How much, often? I dont know.

The coat grows approximately 1/2 inch to an inch a month. I think the general rule is for every inch of coat length = an hour of brushing a week.

The size, well they are small in "their" mind. Really they are a big dogs. Goofy clowns that are amazing to watch, very agile too be so big. Friends/people in passing think my dog is so big and he is not for a OES. Take away the hair and he is smaller than most labs,. He was the runt of the litter. He is taller but does not weigh near as much. Obe weighs 68-70 lbs and has since about a year and half, almost three now. I think males average 85+ and females are 65+lbs????

Best advice I could give is buy from reputable breeder, ask a thousand questions, and learn as much as you can from the group of people here. Check out OESCA website if you haven't already. It has a wealth of info as well as this site.

I may be wrong on some of this info. But it's at least real close to being correct.
I don't bath my hound, I just brush him.

If extra mucky he goes in the river, or get the hose on him (when my tap isn't frozen!)
Reallly... a high maintenance dog is what you make of it.

You either keep up with it or shave them down constantly. In both the poodle and oes cases. So that high maintenance dog really isn't anymore.

They say poodles should be bathed every 6-8 weeks, but I can tell you the average owner probably doesn't. For a maltese, they tell you for good upkeep... you should bathe weekly. Many people I meet, bathe them 4 times a year.

With that said, I hate when people who don't have the time to take care of a high maintenance animal... try to and as a result ...the dog is always matted and stinks. Our OES' take LOTS of time for both grooming and bathing.
Okay - I have had both poodles and OES. I think poodles do need to be bather more often. On the other hand OES need more day to day grooming (unless you plan on keeping a frou frou poodle cut, than all bets are off)

Both are easily maintained by either routine groomers appointments (costly) or routine brushing. I brush both my OES when I watch tv at night. one is in a perpetual short coat due to his own preference (and he does look handsome in a shave down) and one usually in a full coat - although when time and other pressures mount I will shave her down and start over.

As for fighting with your parent's dog to give them a bath - start when they are young with routine baths (more than you think is necessary) and they will never be a problem. Two of my dogs can be found standing in the tub occassionally looking for a bath!

right now I have OES, a Newf and an Irish Setter. the Irish Setter needs the most baths - he gets dirty faster than the others.

I think you want to pick the dog that most fits your life style and personality. Personally Poodles, with their need to always please seem a little more high emotional maintenance to me.
Thank you all so much for sharing your experiences and knowledge with me.

This really helps me make a more rounded and informed decision about how/if a dog will fit in our lives at the moment.

I had really focused on the brushing, temperment and training (socialization) in my thinking but forgot about bathing and well the anal glands thing (which could put anyone off of having any dog if you think too much about that... :wink: )

We have two children so I am presently trying to raise good teenagers, they are 3 and 5. So much like raising a good dog you start when they are a puppy, you start raising a good teenager when they are a toddler. Which makes me worry about what kind of dog I would raise since my kids are not teenagers yet.
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Thank you all so much for sharing your experiences and knowledge with me.

This really helps me make a more rounded and informed decision about how/if a dog will fit in our lives at the moment.

I had really focused on the brushing, temperment and training (socialization) in my thinking but forgot about bathing and well the anal glands thing (which could put anyone off of having any dog if you think too much about that... :wink: )

We have two children so I am presently trying to raise good teenagers, they are 3 and 5. So much like raising a good dog you start when they are a puppy, you start raising a good teenager when they are a toddler. Which makes me worry about what kind of dog I would raise since my kids are not teenagers yet.


well - if it helps I got my first dog - a poodle - when I was 5 and my daughter got her first dog - a poodle - when she was 3. SHe was a great teenager and I do believe I was okay as well :)
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