opening a can of worms- 2012

So anybody check this out :?:
I've seen the preview. Earlier i logged into a website and an ad popped up for the IHC's website so i was reading it and then i Googled it and man....this is exhausting sorting through all this "stuff".
I generally like a good conspiracy theory or end of the world dooms day scenario, but this is crazy!!

Any thoughts :!: :?: :!:

Ren M
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Is there a link or something? I don't know what you're talking about.
Me either, what's IHC?
I was in a movie and there was a preview of the movie "2012". It was short and basically said to google 2012.
As with everything else on the internet there is a billion websites and people that share the views that make the basis of the movie.

Here are the basic links:
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/2012/

http://www.instituteforhumancontinuity.org/

Then if you search around some more...its just incredibly extensive 8O

Apparently there is a bunch of astrological, physicists, archeological research being done on what i believe to be a predominantly Mayan text that depicts certain catastrophic events culminating on Dec. 21st 2012. Kind of like a dooms day prophecy. :roll:

Ren M
Ah, I see. I didn't know what part I was searching, lol.

Hey wait, I remember this the first time when it was called Deep Impact and Morgan Freeman was the president...
but it is worht noting th eMayan scholars do not support this theory - of course I doubt if anyof them were there... :sidestep:
lol :lol: I know!!! Correct me if I'm wrong:The Mayan's or at least one place i read explained that 2012 was not an ending but more like on a car speedometer. The numbers are going to roll over to 0 then 1 then 2, so it starts over. What is "it" IDK :wink:
this is some crazy stuff though. Oh and i don't mean to offend anyone but its just so much information for my brain to take in!!!
I can't even begin to imagine all the man hours and money and books and papers written about this topic, I'm tired just thinking about it. All the crop circle stuff, Aquarius, and Sagittarius and the Milky way, solar radiation, super volcanoes, floating or underground cities, all the math about the stars and sun and planet alignment....oh and don't forget the gov't is out to conceal all this and usher in some new kind of world power :twitch: :lmt: :twitch: :phew:

I need some more coffee :)

Ren M
Isn't it simply amazing that the Mayan predicted an event that would occur on such a catchy date as

12 21 12
How many end of the worlds will we live through I wonder before the real thing?My son came home from school a few years ago and said "Did you know the world was supposed to end today?" and I said "Not now son,I am busy,I cant fit anything else into my schedule for today"...then I realised what he said.
Great my anxiety is crazy right now with all the stuff I am and have been dealing with the last few months. Now I need to worry about three years from now? Great. I give! LOL
I heard about this and thought:great now I don't have to plan for my retirement. Read about it and thought:this is interesting.
Thought about it:I think its a bunch of hooie. Keep planning for retirement.
Ron wrote:
Isn't it simply amazing that the Mayan predicted an event that would occur on such a catchy date as

12 21 12


Seems very commercial to me. How often does this "theory" come around? Way too often. I wish people didn't spread this stuff.

Lest we forget Y2K!
debcram wrote:
Ron wrote:
Isn't it simply amazing that the Mayan predicted an event that would occur on such a catchy date as

12 21 12


Seems very commercial to me. How often does this "theory" come around? Way too often. I wish people didn't spread this stuff.

Lest we forget Y2K!


I understand this is movie, but seriously just like Y2K, what happened? NOTHING!!! Lets worry about something we can do something about. If the world is going to end then it's going to end. So be it. Live everyday like it's your last. If you want to do something do it, no regrets, you cant change yesterday.
Since this is kind of an off-topic conversation anyway....


You may think that nothing happened on Y2K and in general things went pretty smoothly, but I had a personal experience that some companies were unable to process credit cards for 3 weeks. Joan and I were on a mini vacation and we went to buy a coat and couldn't use one card or the other. The clerk explained that the system had been offline since the 1st. We did manage to buy the coat and didn't pay cash, but I forget if it was as simple as using a different card. I think it was.

I'm sure that lots of stuff didn't work properly. That's after the industry spent 100's of billions of dollars fixing those problems and a bunch more at the same time. Sometime programmers use special numbers as flags or signals that a particular set of events has happened. I'm sure you've all seen examples of that; numbers like 9999 instead of blanks to end a list or where data doesn't exist, things like that. Well back in the day (like in the 70s and 80s), programmers used dates like 12/31/99 to indicate end-of-data because they were technically valid dates so they would pass any date validation tests, and they never envisioned their programs to still be running 20 and 30 years later. But they were. so in addition to the 2 digit year problems, even if those were handled all of the programs needed to be checked for special flags like that. I recall another favorite to look for was 1/23/4, although that was silly because a programmer would have used 1/23/04 which wouldn't be particularly more catchy that anything else.

In fact some of the problems encountered may be because of the work done to prevent a problem. :D

In practice, my industry had already been coding around the problem since the 1970s, fixing things and creating them correctly as we were going along, as 30 year financial instruments matured past the year 1999. Since the 70s were pretty much at the dawn of computerization and there weren't a ton of programs written before then, the potential for impact was reduced. Still there were bugs in programs based on issue dates and not maturity dates, and some programs were designed to deal with instruments that had no maturity dates at all. There were at risk, as were programs for things like overnight instruments, which move billions of dollars around every night.

I recall talking about Y2K with a colleague who was in the air traffic control software biz and he was saying that he didn't know if they used 2 digit or 4 digit years, but their programs were all real time and wouldn't be affected at all, and the problem hadn't been looked into as far as he knew. I said: "Really? Aren't flights listed in some kind of order, like when they're going to land, or something?"

"Sure," he said.

"Well, what will happen around midnight when some flights are going to be landing in 99 and some will be landing in 00? How will they sort?"

He turned white.

Y2K was a REAL WORLD problem. For the most part, businesses didn't need to be dragged kicking and screaming into hunting down and fixing any problems, they understood the risks to their own bottom lines.
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