Temperment Issues
 ) and I saw behaviors that would make me seriously think about giving up a dog - something I never thought I would consider.
I am just curious and it is Monday morning - so if you could fill out the following poll about individual dogs - if you have one who is dog reactive and one who is sound reactive that would be two different poll responses - it would help set my mind at ease that our breed is not as difficult as some. |
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| Just so you know, the poll only allows each member to vote once, so people with multiple dogs can't select an option for each one.... |
| ahh shoot. |
| yeah I tried to put a couple of different things; but the options don't adequately describe my girls. Tonks and Luna resource guard, but only very specifically. They will guard their water source at the dog park, but are fine at home. Luna likes to guard frisbees and sticks at the park, but not so badly that she doesn't hope another dog will chase her for the coveted items. And sometimes she shares just fine. Tonks gets a bit guard-y about my affection at the park with other dogs, but does fine at home. And lastly; Tonks can be skittish on walks at night; always looking over her shoulder and jumping at little sounds, but she's fine during the day.
All of these are behaviors that we have very much under control, or at lesat a handle on, through training. |
| What, only one vote? I needed two. |
| Where's the box for "all of the above over all these years"? lol |
I just did Clyde since he's the full-grown OES in the house and his personality is actually completely evolved. Owen's still growing his but if you add a "bad seed" category, I'll put him there.  |
| The one that most reflected Barney was food resource guarding. He's fine most of the time, but when given a particularly fabulous treat he'll growl at you if you try and take it.
And since I never have witnessed this I don't count it...he was kicked out of doggy daycare for guarding the water and the people there. Most of the time he's pretty stable when he can manage to get off his doggy bed!  |
Kerry - perfectly stable does not equate with not enough energy to get off the couch!  You can't rule out Morgan's hypothyroidism affecting his energy levels even when he's comfortably within "range". Laid back at his age and younger is not normal for the breed at all.
I have the same more-than-one dog issue with the poll, though all are pretty much of the same temperament based on the criteria above. I suppose I could pick one and make that one representative, but it would skew your data. In this breed we do have our share of temperament problems, but I'm willing to bet the majority are fear based and resource guarding. And I don't know that the latter, at least in relation to other dogs, is much of a function of hardwired temperament since it can usually be pretty readily overcome. Probably about 1/3 of the dozen or so rescue dogs I've dealt with in the past year or so have had varying degrees of resource guarding issues - mind you, none towards humans so far - and it's really not hard to snap them out of it. Which tells me there's probably a fair amount of environmental impact there. Kristine |
Oh, I forgot to mention sound reactive: Every time the doorbell rings on tv (or that weird swiffer buzz happens) Barney heads for the door, barking his crazy head off.  |
| LOL you need one that says afraid of their own reflection. At night Beau will see himself reflected in the front window and will go absolutely crazy especially if he is in the room alone. |
Mad Dog wrote: Kerry - perfectly stable does not equate with not enough energy to get off the couch!
You can't rule out Morgan's hypothyroidism affecting his energy levels even when he's comfortably within "range". Laid back at his age and younger is not normal for the breed at all.I have the same more-than-one dog issue with the poll, though all are pretty much of the same temperament based on the criteria above. I suppose I could pick one and make that one representative, but it would skew your data. In this breed we do have our share of temperament problems, but I'm willing to bet the majority are fear based and resource guarding. And I don't know that the latter, at least in relation to other dogs, is much of a function of hardwired temperament since it can usually be pretty readily overcome. Probably about 1/3 of the dozen or so rescue dogs I've dealt with in the past year or so have had varying degrees of resource guarding issues - mind you, none towards humans so far - and it's really not hard to snap them out of it. Which tells me there's probably a fair amount of environmental impact there. Kristine actually I wasan't even thinking of my own dogs - just what I saw Saturday. I haven't even filled out the poll. I was also aware of the fact that I couldn't add thirteen options
it was amazing what I saw and what people said their goals were. Convinced me I have been way too critical of my own dogs - but my human kids wouldn't find that hard to believe, or the fact that I keep getting told I am too subdued in my praise |
| Tiggy resource guards her treats from our Dalmo but that's because she's slower to eat them and if I even stop watching for 1 sec he tries to take them off her. She doesnt resource guard her food because they have their own bowls and know that eating from the other dogs bowl is not OK. And she doesnt resource guard from people. So my experience bears out your comment on resource guarding being a lot to do with environment Kristine.
Tiggy is also a crazy barker when she is excited,  dang and she's excited a LOT of the time. When the door bell rings, when people visit, when I get home, when its dinner time, when I put my walking shoes on, when I get her lead, when the Dalmo runs, you get the picture. It can get annoying but I've always thought that its the excitable, energetic OES temperment. We are working on it but its slow. |
| None of mine guard anything, they all bark when someone is knocking at the door. Bella runs after the other 3 if they have toys, not because she wants them, just because she don't want them to have them My dogs will walk by anyones dogs and will not bark even if the other dogs are barking at them, they just look at me as if to say, "Whats up with them?" Elliott barks and bounces when Rick puts on his show jacket before he goes into the ring, he knows its time when he see that, and gets so excited, it really is cute. I guess mine are pretty laid back, or could it be from obedience training at a young age? |
kerry wrote: I sat through about 6 hours of a dog problem solving workshop this weekend (we have a year old Newf remember
) and I saw behaviors that would make me seriously think about giving up a dog - something I never thought I would consider.I'm interested in hearing about some of these behaviors. Tell us more... |
Yeah, me too. 
Genny barks at the thunder and also, sometimes, planes flying overhead (and we're not near an airport or in a particular fly-zone, so they're not close). Beau will growl if another dog gets near one of his bones. Other than that, they're "perfect". |
| The only issue we have noticed is that Bailee doesn't seem to like the "other" dog in the house; the one he sees in the oven window when he walks by. |
Quote: Where's the box for "all of the above over all these years"? lol
You tough way ahead of me, Ron. |
| I know this is late, but... Hudson is really balanced, but sometimes he gets overwhelmed by loud scary noises. One or two will make him jump, but repetitive ones will cause him to find a crate to hide in or a table to be under. Our roofing times have been really tough on him. Once a bicycle came up behind us and whizzed past him. He jumped four feet in the air, and they all splayed out like a cartoon character. The cyclist felt so bad he stopped, came back, patted Hudson, and apologized. My hubby and I were too busy laughing hysterically to be any help. Rudy doesn't guard, but he does try to steal Hudson's food, and Hudson's so happy go lucky he lets him, so we intervene and guard Hudson's food for him. (Okay, a simple, "Rudy leave it!" suffices.) Rudy is currently in intensive therapy to work out his red zone other dog aggressive issues. He's doing well, but Hudson is the only dog at the moment who can approach him on a leash. Others are viewed as threats. We've made good progress. He's now easily redirected and can walk with others, but still has to have an initial outburst. I'm hoping I'll soon be able to report that this is gone too. |
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