He's taking me for a walk!
|
|
| Try putting some bitter apple on the leash. You can teach him to "leave it" or "drop it" - and use that command when he takes the leash. You will have to work on this by removing it from his mouth and using the command - and then rewarding him.
You can work on this behavior if you are in a secure setting (fenced yard) and he does this - drop it and ignore him - and when he stops - praise/reward him and pick it back up and try again. They are too cute aren't they!!! Kristen |
oh that's a good idea - I hadn't even thought of bitter apple! He's already becoming familiar with "leave it" because he's very fond of shoes and slippers (especially mine! ... oo razzin frazzin...  ). I'll try it with the leash too! |
I know what you mean Heather. I take Blue Star for her potty with the leash and after she's done she likes to "pull" me home.  But there is a distinct difference when we are training with the cloth choker collar. She knows she is working with me and she does not usually do this grabbing at the leash. If she does I pull gently and say no and ask her to stop and sit. She then is back into listening mode. I think working with her on leash in the heeling process has taught her that there is a serious time and a playtime. She has learned to distinquish between the two. They are extremely bright animals! 
Blue Star's Mom--May |
| Oh I completely agree - they are very smart. Farley already knows that in the process of going outside to do his business that he has to sit down and patiently wait for me to put on the leash. Such a good boy! |
| Carl has had issues with this. I use the "stop" command to begin with. If I say stop, he has to stop whatever he is doing and sit. (Also works for rough play, garbage raiding... It's like a dog version of red light/green light.) Then I tell him to "drop it". (We differentiate between drop it and leave it. Drop it for things in the mouth, leave it for things he hasn't picked up yet.) It's been a process but it works remarkably well. |
| Zoe likes to "walk herself" too. I just got a longer leash so that she can hold it and so can I! When I let her put it in her mouth she prances and acts so proud of herself-and she does not drag me!
Am I letting her develope a bad habit? |
| It will be hard to make immediate corrections to her if she is holding the leash. She might also start tugging if she doesn't like what you are doing and then you'll have to start all over with correcting her.
We let Carl carry his leash around before we leave the house and when we come back in. He walks around very proud as well but he knows that in order to go outside he has to drop it so that we can pick it up. Also, if you have a cloth/nylon leash she could start to wear on it by carrying it. Be careful to check for weak spots or you might find them at the worst moment! |
| Aside from what Maxmm just indicated - I'm worried about hurting Farley. His gums/teeth. I hope to show him in the Fall and don't want to hurt him either physically or behavior-wise. |
| Heather,
You're right to correct Farley - I doubt that they'd be too thrilled with him walking himself around the Show Ring! 
Kristen |
| Master's at controlling the situation and so cute in the process. You have to be one step ahead of them. The deal is their anxious to go for a walk, just let him know as long as he insist on pulling and trying to walk you, you just stand there. When he lets up on the tugging and pulling than you go forward. Their smart and catch on pretty quick. What is so hard is to be consistent with these guy, when they are so darned adorable even when they are being mischevious. Good Luck! |
| Yesterday is the first day I thought of using a choke collar. I said I just would not do this. But, Tux has (as you put it) decided he wants to walk me. I can get him back in line--but he is SO-O-O strong! If he decides to bolt (like at a squirrel--or even another dog) and he gets the momentum on me--I can't stop him. At 1 year old--he is about 20 pounds lighter than me--but much, much stronger. I was so frustrated yesterday--that is why the choke collar came to mind. He also does exactly what you guys said....He puts the leash in his mouth & hops around like a kangaroo. Should I use the choke collar every time we go outdoors? I used to get results by jerking on his leash and saying "No!" very firmly. Now, his neck is so strong that he is just not the least bit phased by this. He is so cute--also--but he has just got to settle down.... |
| Personally, I'm not a fan of choke collars because
we had a bad experience years ago with our first sheepdog. He love to chase, and pulled hard-he sustained damage to his larynx. This time around, our fellow is doing grab the leash, tugging,and the let me grab at your coat sleeve so I can get the leash away from you game. We are trying a gentle leader, although I know some folks have reported problems with those. So far I head right back to the house for a time out, and we try again in a while. He seems to be catching on to the fact there is no walk or playtime if he is not respectful. |
| Since we've been using the self correcting collar (aka choker) Pooh is MUCH better on walks. Much less pulling and he pays attention better. My wife was very happy about this since he is fast becomin gbigger and stronger than her. He is about the same height as she is now when he puts his paws (when invited to) on her shoulders for kisses and hugs!
I would not even think about not using this collar on a dog of this size, however, I would never use the coller with the burrs on it....that doesn't even look humane to me... |
| I'll second the motion on the training collar. Lennon and Sofa are much more manageable on walks with that collar, but you must be very careful on when and how to use it so you don't harm your dog. |
Maggie Jane wrote: If he decides to bolt (like at a squirrel--or even another dog) and he gets the momentum on me--I can't stop him. I/you don't know if the choke is the right way to go, so your real question is: "Should I be in control of Tux everytime I go outdoors?", and the answer is DEFINITELY!
[...] Should I use the choke collar every time we go outdoors? I wouldn't try just a choke, consider the prong collar or a gentle leader or a halti. There are articles about them here on the forum -- I'll try to find some for you. |
jsmarcus wrote: I would not even think about not using this collar on a dog of this size, however, I would never use the coller with the burrs on it....that doesn't even look humane to me... lol You'd think so from looking at it... it looks downright medieval!!!
I've put'em on myself. When not being pulled they are really not even felt. when being pulled they do not hurt, they are uncomfortable -- kinda like an advanced version of someone grabbing you tightly with their fingertips. They only tighten just a bit, so any further pulling is supplied by the dog, and they generally self-limit on how much they will pull. I used to say that they don't pull at all (and most don't), but then came Mulligan into my life. Here's a picture of the prong collar and some discussion: http://forum.oes.org/viewtopic.php?p=8097#8097 |
| Thanks so much for the advice. Whoa....that prong collar looks scary! I'm sure it is fine--when used correctly. But I sure wouldn't want one of those around my neck! Looks to me like his hair would tangle in those things.... Thanks for the pics and articles. I am going to study them and make a choice. I know that I need to be in complete control at all times. For now, when we are walking, I try to keep a look out for any "attractions." If I spot them before Tux does, I just tell him to sit--and he will stay that way until I say okay--he will do that--even if he does see the attraction. It's just that if he is already on the go when he sees it--I can have a problem. I think that a better collar will relieve my fear that he is going to get away from me. Thanks for all the info! |
| We borrowed a prong collar from a friend who used it on their Rotteweiler. It was an instant attention getter! I think that he could sense that this was a different thing altogether. As soon as we put it on him, he looked like he was concentrating, if that makes any sense. If Carl puts his mind to going somewhere, he pulls like you would not believe. He also needs constant mini corrections when walking on a leash. With the prong collar he was absolutely perfect. Never even had to correct him once! The collar was even one link too big for him so it didn't pinch or poke constantly.
I had one person part his hair all the way around while we put the collar on. We then just pushed it around the collar so it didn't tangle. The difference between the metal and the fabric collars may be the difference. |
| I was watching "good dog" today on tv and the topic today was this very thing. Apparently that behaviour is also a behaviour that displays dominanc and must be stopped to prevent your pup from demanding more of you. Not sure if it works but the suggestion was that when the dog pulls at the leash to tug at you or nips your ankles actually pick the pup up from under the legs so you are craddling them on your forearm - this apparenlty is something they hate and tells them immediately that you are boss. - Try it you never know |
Maggie Jane wrote: Thanks so much for the advice. Whoa....that prong collar looks scary! I'm sure it is fine--when used correctly. But I sure wouldn't want one of those around my neck! Looks to me like his hair would tangle in those things.... Thanks for the pics and articles. I am going to study them and make a choice. I know that I need to be in complete control at all times. For now, when we are walking, I try to keep a look out for any "attractions." If I spot them before Tux does, I just tell him to sit--and he will stay that way until I say okay--he will do that--even if he does see the attraction. It's just that if he is already on the go when he sees it--I can have a problem. I think that a better collar will relieve my fear that he is going to get away from me. Thanks for all the info!
In regards to it tangling the fur, you would never leave it on long enough to worry about it. Since it only used during training (while walking or obedience or whatever) it is under constant supervision and not on very long at a time. |
Didn't find exactly what you're looking for? Search again here:
Custom Search
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
|