I am just stunned by this
But this: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,468250,00.html MUST be some form of child abuse. Can you imagine? |
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| All I could think is ...after looking at the parents, for some reason it doesn't surprise me. *we need a shrugs emoticon*
I sent it to my family. |
| I wanted people to have a chance to read it online before I let the cat out of the bag... but just in case, they've named their three children:
Adolph Hitler, JoyceLynn Aryan Nation, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie (named after Heinrich Himmler, head of the Nazi SS) Googling just "hinler" brought this little girl's name up as the first result. The parents ought to be dragged out back and shot. Then again, perhaps Adolph Hitler will have Hinler take care of it, just like in the good old days. |
| I'm curious what they do for a living. |
Joahaeyo wrote: I'm curious what they do for a living.
I'm not sure but I think white power is a full-time job... 
The scariest part is that they're serious. |
| I just don't understand people like that in this day and age. Bravo to the baker who refused to do the cake. S/he should get some sort of award! |
I feel for the kids  ........they are so gonna get the tar beaten out of them at school!... then again maybe they'll be home schooled  |
Quote: they are so gonna get the tar beaten out of them at school!... then again maybe they'll be home schooled
either way they are scr***d. |
| Why do they have to be from Pennsylvania? Let's push them over the river into New Jersey for good. |
| I just will never understand things like this. I am all for everyone having freedoms.... so they have the right to name thier children these names... BUT ~~~
Did they ever stop to think what affect it would have on their children as they grow up? I mean... what did they EXPECT people's reactions to be? (Or did they do this to GET reactions?) Now when the children are grown and don't 'feel' the same as the parents or have the same beliefs... will the parents be upset if the child wants to change his/her name?? |
| They are setting their children up to be troubled and probably end up in jail or dead. Constant harassment for Adolf will make him defensive very early on and will lash out at others in self defence. Aryan might survive for awhile, until they learn the brother's name, Adolf. Hinler might have stood a chance since the true spelling is Himmler, but with Aryan and Adolf, there's no mistaking what's going on. This quote from another store:
Quote: The house in New Jersey is decorated with lots of swastika, a typical Nazi symbol. Heath even claimed himself to be one of the members of the SS. |
Maxmm wrote: Why do they have to be from Pennsylvania? Let's push them over the river into New Jersey for good.
Put them in Jerseys and I the Jews will get them. They probably don't dare cross the border or river. |
| Why would anyone want to inflict that upon their children, how sad |
| i think its absolutely horrible.....but here is my take on it...
these kids (as kids) may never know the full ramifications of their names...i bet these parents only surround themselves with the same stupid mentality people....(i can only imagine what their parties are like )
As adults though, i see the kids taking one of two courses...changing their names and becoming part of a beautifully intragrated society OR (and this is more likely), becoming the same type of stupid that their parents are.. for every step forward, i guess, there is a step back.....people are so stupid sometimes! |
| I thought I wrote another post about this, but I can't seem to find it.
This name will cause these kids so much trouble over the years. Besides the playground/childhood issues, who is going to hire Adolph Hitler to work for them? Can you imagine a Presidential cabinet appointment? How about "Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, My name is Adolph Hitler and I'm representing the defendant...." How about even a McDonald's manager? Would YOU hire Adolph Hitler to work in a diverse environment like that? If a child were subjected to any form of abuse, mental or physical, the state would step in to protect the children. If the parents were forcing their children to wear clothing of the opposite sex, if they made them dye their hair rainbow color, if they tattooed "I have a small penis" on the kids forehead I'm sure the state would step in, and in my opinion should do so in this case. I recall a case in some court where a person (an adult) was denied the right to change their name to a number. If the courts can deny an adult the right to change the name they have chosen to represent themselves, certainly the court can step in and prevent parents from naming their children in such a way as to handicap them for the rest of their lives. Of course the ACLU and Alan Dershowitz will immediately come to the defense of these people and their rights to be Nazis and to name their children accordingly. I know the argument would go "Well, that's OTHER people's problems. It's not the kid's fault that other people have a prejudice." .. and they might be right. But still... Someday when these kids shoot up a mall or a school, or kill their own parents or take some other anti-social action the great hue and cry will be: "How come we didn't see the warning signs! Why didn't anyone DO something back then?" |
| The parents are racist troublemakers who are perverting their free speech rights and the current U.S. obsession with politeness and political correctness for their own ends. The names they gave their children are a backhanded form of racist harassment since they are demanding that everyone treat their children with respect as if the names were perfectly normal.
The courts probably won't step in until little Adolf burns a cross on someone's lawn or starts painting swastikas on the local synagogue. |
Ron wrote: .........This name will cause these kids so much trouble over the years.... ,..who is going to hire Adolph Hitler to work for them?
Can you imagine a Presidential cabinet appointment?....... Why not? If a man named 'Barack Huessen Obama' can be elected as president, then Adolph Hitler shouldn't have a problem obtaining a presidential appointment. They're just names. We can't judge them by the things that others with the same or same sounding names do, or can we? Of course Obama went by the name of Barry until he became proud of his ancestry. Like you, I don't like the names and don't understand why people would want to name their child 'Hitler". If you like Adolph fine, but stop there.  |
| I got a feeling these kids won't ever come close to being successful folks when they're older. Sorry, but that's my prediction on their outcome BUT I DO HOPE I'M WRONG. I also hope they aren't homeschooled, so they have OTHER influences in their life. Parents are such strong influences that I bet they take offense and stick up for their dang idiot parents for naming them that. To answer a question I asked earlier, someone pm'ed me saying they heard they were both on disability and didn't work. |
| Adolph Hitler ( the German one, not the white supremecist kid) had a brother, who lived here in the US. He has kids, and those kids agreed to ONE, change their last names and TWO to never ever have kids of their own, effectively ending that genetic line. I'm sure they'd be unhappy to here that thier uncle was instead being immortalized by some idiots that claim to follow Nazi teachings.
the book on Hilters living relatives is here. |
| To me, there is a difference between giving a child the middle name of Hussein, and naming a child Adolph Hitler. Hussein is a common, much honored name in many countries around the world, as it means "good" or "handsome" in Arabic. The name Saddam Hussein has negative connotations for us, but Barack Hussein Obama was not named after Saddam Hussein.
To name a child Adolph Hitler on the other hand, is naming a child directly after the person responsible for orchestrating the annihilation of millions of people. It would be one thing to name your child just Adolph, though I doubt too many folks are doing that, even if it's a family name. If this guy thought the name Adolph Hitler was so great, he should have legally changed his own name, and left the poor child alone. But obviously these folks named their kids for maximum effect, and I hope their fifteen minutes of fame are up. Laurie |
mouthypf wrote: Why not? If a man named 'Barack Huessen Obama' can be elected as president, then Adolph Hitler shouldn't have a problem obtaining a presidential appointment.
I'll just say "ditto" to Oscar's mom and add that this is an absurd comparison. |
| I thought it was a valid point! Who woulda thought that someone with Mr. Obama's middle name could have been elected so soon after 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq?
I didn't think she was comparing Mr. Obama to the original Adolph Hitler or to these kids, I thought she was replying to the concept, and her point seemed to be one of those "Well... I didn't think of that" moments for me. |
| Except for Hussein is a normal, common name and the two names together "Adolph Hitler" are not a normal, common name in the least but rather are specifically aimed to reflect one particular individual.
I think it's apples to oranges and utterly absurd. But to each his own. |
rdf wrote: Except for Hussein is a normal, common name and the two names together "Adolph Hitler" are not a normal, common name in the least but rather are specifically aimed to reflect one particular individual.
I think it's apples to oranges and utterly absurd. But to each his own. Agreed; they didn't name their kid "Adolph" they named him "Adolph Hitler". Also a point of difference; Obama was named decades before Saddam Hussien came to power and became the individual of notoriety that he did. Where as this kid was named decades after Adolph Hitler committed his crimes and died; so there's no real comparison in my mind. |
| But her point wasn't about the naming, it was simply that it apears that people can look past objectionable names. |
Ron wrote: But her point wasn't about the naming, it was simply that it apears that people can look past objectionable names.
ah; gotcha. Here's another question; on a global "bad guys" scale, do you think we can equate Hitler with Hussien? |
Darth Snuggle wrote: Ron wrote: But her point wasn't about the naming, it was simply that it apears that people can look past objectionable names. ah; gotcha. Here's another question; on a global "bad guys" scale, do you think we can equate Hitler with Hussien? I've seen several articles over the years that have debated such. I think we can safely say they were both horrid men who had similarities in their foreign policies and beliefs - but Hitler certainly affected more lives total. <a href="http://hyperhistory.net/apwh/essay/>An interesting History Essay</a> |
| The two names are not comparable. The Campbell kid was named "Adolf Hitler" by his racist parents in order to call attention to themselves and to stir up trouble. Can't say the same about Obama. |
| there are also more than one Hussein and only one (already famous when the child was named ) Adolf Hitler so no mistaking what the intention was. Hussein is still a common first or middle name is it not? |
Darth Snuggle wrote: Here's another question; on a global "bad guys" scale, do you think we can equate Hitler with Hussien? Well, there are similarities but there are more differences:
One was elected and had the love and admiration of most of his countrymen, the other ruled nearly entriely by force., both were brutal when necessary. One had a country that was capable of building a formidable army, the other not. One was unnecessarily evil on a grand scale, the other was evil to keep his people suppressed and maintain his power base. One had aspirations to rule the world, the other....? PS rdf The link goes nowhere... |
Ron wrote: PS rdf The link goes nowhere... Sorry - don't know what I did there. Here is the right link. http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/essays ... hitler.htm |
mouthypf wrote: Ron wrote: .........This name will cause these kids so much trouble over the years.... ,..who is going to hire Adolph Hitler to work for them? Can you imagine a Presidential cabinet appointment?....... Why not? If a man named 'Barack Huessen Obama' can be elected as president, then Adolph Hitler shouldn't have a problem obtaining a presidential appointment. They're just names. We can't judge them by the things that others with the same or same sounding names do, or can we? Of course Obama went by the name of Barry until he became proud of his ancestry. Like you, I don't like the names and don't understand why people would want to name their child 'Hitler". If you like Adolph fine, but stop there. Where in this post am I comparing Obama to Hitler? If we can be in two wars at the same time, against two leaders named Suddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden, who would've ever thought that in the midst of those two wars we'd elect a president named 'Barack Hussein Obama'. Ron was talking about the boy 'getting a job'. My thoughts were 'what would things be like in another 10 - 15 years' from now. If people will approve of "the name BHO" now, what will they approve of later???? Like I said, they're just names, it's the character of the person that determines how they'll be remembered. I wouldn't name any human, animal or even my worst enemy after Hitler, OSama or Hussein (the first name one). Thanks Ron. I'm glad you understood what I meant. |
| if we look at the glass half full...
Maybe this kid will strive his whole life to overcome the prejudices that come with the name "Adolph Hitler" and the ignorance of his family. Maybe all that effort will strengthen his character, and in doing so, perhaps his action will lead to something wonderful, like winning the Nobel Peace Prize, curing cancer, becoming a great writer, composer or artist? It could happen. Is it likely; maybe not. But who is to say that this kid isn't made of sterner stuff, and might overcome this tremendous obstacle that his parents have stupidly set in front of him? Here's hoping it all turns out okay for him and his siblings. |
| Mouthypf, I did not say or imply that you were comparing Obama to Hitler.
I understand what you were getting at, but I disagree. To me, a name is not just a name and I would argue that it might be centuries, if ever, that someone with the name Adolph Hitler would be looked at the same as anyone else here in the U.S. That's why I mentioned how common the name Hussein is around the globe. And that's why I think most folks gave Obama's middle name a passing glance and nothing more, because it doesn't have the same import or weight, given that he obviously was not named after Saddam Hussein. That's why he could be elected so soon after 9/11, because his middle name doesn't stand as a symbol. It's a common Arabic middle name that happens to be the same as the last name of a horrible, brutal dictator. Does anyone think he would have been elected if his name was Adolph Hitler Obama? Or Barack Saddam Hussein Obama? I don't think he ever would have made it as an Illinois Senator with those names, let alone president. So a name is not just a name. IMHO......... Laurie |
| Luckily, the kids can always drop the middle names and then they're just left with first names that are just lame rather than inflammatory. |
| Breaking news...
Just heard this on the radio, can't find a news article yet. Kids were taken away from their parents by DYFS No word as to why yet... |
| Here's an article:
http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/warren- ... xml&coll=3 Quote: New Jersey Division of Youth and Family Services removes Adolf Hitler Campbell, sisters from parents' home Wednesday, January 14, 2009 By Tom Quigley and DOUGLAS B. BRILL The Express-Times Authorities removed Adolf Hilter Campbell and his sisters from their parents' Hunterdon County home, Holland Township police chief David Van Gilson said Tuesday. New Jersey's Division of Youth and Family Services took the 3-year-old as well as JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell, 1, and Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell, who turns 1 in April, the chief said. Van Gilson said he didn't know why the children were taken or who had custody. He said his department received no reports of abuse or negligence. The children's father, Heath Campbell, reached Tuesday evening at a relative's home, first declined comment and later said the children were not removed. The Division of Youth and Family Services would not confirm or deny the report. A spokeswoman said the division doesn't comment on specific families. The chief said the children were removed last week. He said a township officer was present. "Whatever children were at the home were taken," the chief said. A hearing is scheduled for Thursday before Superior Court Judge Peter A. Buschbaum at the Hunterdon County Justice Center, the chief said. He said a hearing on Tuesday was postponed when Campbell indicated he wanted a private attorney. The hearing is to decide whether the state can temporarily place the children in another home, the chief said. He said township police Sgt. John Harris is scheduled to testify. The Campbell family gained worldwide attention after a Dec. 14 story in The Express-Times about the children's names and a Warren County supermarket's refusal to write Adolf Hitler on a birthday cake. Heath Campbell, who's previously said he picked the names to honor German ancestry and because they are unique, has reported receiving threats after the story was published. Another Campbell family in Holland Township received a death threat intended for Heath Campbell, township police have said. That case remains under investigation. Reporter Tom Quigley can be reached at 610-258-7171, ext. 3574, or by e-mail at tquigley@express-times.com. Reporter Douglas B. Brill can be reached at 610-258-7171 or by e-mail at dbrill@express-times.com. |
| an interesting turn of events. The children may not have been abused; but if their welfare is at risk because the family is getting death threats due to their names... Is that enough cause for DYFS to intervene? |
| no it isn't there has to be something else. |
hmmmm... I wonder if they can decide that their names are abuse enough?  |
| Oh my - What in the world??? This is the first time I've caught this post, or even HEARD about this. I am so taken back by these names, and the parents ignorance. |
| Good news? It's not the names.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6648877&page=1 |
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