worried about after effects of neutering!

Hi All,

Oscar was neutered on Friday.

Im worried because he is not eating and has diarrhoea. He ate a very small amount this morning but nothing since.
He also will not leave his stitches alone but hasnt ripped them, he is constantly at them. The vet told me not to worry, that he will be fine but he just isnt the same.

He looks so sad and i feel so guilty :( .

Is all this normal for a dog who has been neutered?
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not in my experience. Morgan ate the first day (big surprise) and never bothered his stitches. i would either get a better response from my vet or take him to a new vet if I was concerned.
Like humans, dogs react differently to anesthesia. It may be a good thing that he isn't eating if he has diarrhea. I would not feed him for the next 12-24 hours, give him plenty of fresh water and if the diarrhea has stopped you can start him on some rice with a small amount of boiled ground beef or chicken.

Refeed slowly to make sure the diarrhea doesn't return. You can try canned pumpkin (it is supposed to help firm the stools) or immodium (check with your Vet).

In the mean time you need to keep him away from the stitches. Get an E collar to keep him from licking and bothering the stitches.
No help to you, but Archie didn't seem effected at all, he still wanted to play after the anaesthetic never botherd with his stitches.

Does he have an Elizabethan collar?


With the vomiting has your vet said not to worry?
Keep him off those stitches. Not only can he pull them out, he can "worry" them to where they swell into permanent lumps and bumps, not only creating a mess to remove the stitches, but the lumps remain. Granted in a hairy dog that's not too bad except at groom time.

Get the e-collar.....PetsMart has them or your vet has them. The dog will dislike it for a few hours, bang into walls and your shins, but it will keep him off those stitches.

As for the poops.....I agree with above, nothing for a day, then slowly introduce rice, then rice and meat back to his diet. When all well, slowly reintroduce his kibble.

As for his missing parts, it's one less thing to wash which is about all he'll miss. You in return will eventually have a calmer, sweeter dog. It takes time for the testesterone to wear out of his system.

It's good to know if this is a reaction to anasthesia for future reference.
SheepieBoss wrote:
As for his missing parts, it's one less thing to wash which is about all he'll miss. You in return will eventually have a calmer, sweeter dog. It takes time for the testesterone to wear out of his system.




I went on line ot research this issue - because I believe the general understanding of how testosterone affects the male dog is seriously misunderstood. I found a lot of assumed facts but I did also find the research based results of castration. temperment is not one of the changes scientifically supported - and in fact new research supports the opposite in some cases.

Here are the research based statistics:

Quote:
This information is from Dr James O'Heare author of the Canine Aggression Workbook one of the most important books on aggression ever written also courtesy of " http://www.kerryblues.info/

The Effects of Spaying and Neutering
on Canine Behavior
by James O'Heare, B.Sc., Dip.C.B., Dip.ACP., Dip.A.S., C.C.B.C.
Cynology College

Copyright 2003, James O'Heare

Males
Neutering the male dog removes the source of circulating testosterone.

"Ben and Hart"at the University of California carried out the most extensive surveys on the effects of castration on dogs and came up with these statistics:

Roaming
Reduced in 90% of cases
Rapid reduction in 45%
Gradual reduction in 45%
No effect in 10%

Intermale Aggression
Reduced in 60% of cases
Rapid reduction in 25%
Gradual reduction in 35%
No effect in 40%

Mounting People
Reduced in 60% of cases
Rapid reduction in 30%
Gradual reduction in 30%
Some decline in mounting bitches in heat too

Urine Marking in the House
Reduced in 50% of cases
Rapid reduction in 20%
Gradual reduction in 30%" (Fogle, 1990, p. 53)



the link is: http://www.doglistener.co.uk/medical/neuter.shtml and there is more info as well.
The anesthesia can really mess with their systems. At least he isn't vomiting. The stitches can be itchy and/or painful. There can and probably is swelling which can take some time to come down. Also not pleasant. Did his vet send him home with pain meds and antibiotics?

If he's still off and he isn't on antibiotics (the antibiotics can make him nauseous, perhaps give him some probiotics?) at least take his temperature and if he has one call your vet and insist he see him to make sure he doesn't have a post-surgical infection. Usually not as severe in dogs as in bitches, but something to watch for.

Is he feeling any better?

Kristine
Chauncey had a hard cervical collar similar to those used by EMS at an accident scene. He hated it and therefore made me miserable.
I thought for quite a while about a way to cover the sutures that Chauncey couldn't chew off.... :idea: A pair of pink boxer shorts ( mine not Bob's, his were too big :roll: ). They covered the wound perfectly and didn't seem to aggravate him at all ( Chauncey that is, Bob was a bit embarassed to take him a walk. ) I also used them when he was attacked by the dog across the street and had sutures.
Thanks everyone, the vet didnt give me any antibiotics for him. The stitches were disolvable and are now gone. He seems to be healed and is back to normal, he's eating properly now too. I got him neutered to calm him down a little and stop him from 'humping' everthing, however yesterday he spend the evening humping his bed and he is still as hyperactive as ever if not more! Not quite the result i was hoping for! :roll:
Helenf, it takes a while for their testosterone levels to decrease. You may not see a significant difference in that type of activity for a few weeks or so.
re the humping the "Air Humping" has to be the funniest sight it's almost like a John Travolta disco moment :lol:
Also the humping never completely goes away. If he's actively playing with another dog or even a human is serious physical play, he may hump a bit.

My bitch Paige would regularly hump the other dogs........it was a dominance thing, she was the boss and enforcing her position.

Hopefully your boy will settle quickly as the testosterone levels drop. Be patient.
Helenf wrote:
Thanks everyone, the vet didnt give me any antibiotics for him. The stitches were disolvable and are now gone. He seems to be healed and is back to normal, he's eating properly now too. I got him neutered to calm him down a little and stop him from 'humping' everthing, however yesterday he spend the evening humping his bed and he is still as hyperactive as ever if not more! Not quite the result i was hoping for! :roll:


:lol: :lol: Sorry, shouldn't laugh. My boy got more obnoxious, more hyperactive and actually starting humping more after he was castrated. It's been 1 1/2 years since the great event and no abatement in sight. Evidently he forgot to read the post-desexing instruction manual :roll: Oh, well.

As far as behavioral modification goes, there is no quick fix <no pun intended :wink: > surgical intervention to produce a better behaved dog. You still end up doing it the old fashioned way: training them.

Good to hear he doesn't have an infection!

Kristine
Chauncey wrote:
Helenf, it takes a while for their testosterone levels to decrease. You may not see a significant difference in that type of activity for a few weeks or so.


Great news :D

I do love him just the way he is but everyone else has opinions about his behavior. I tell them he's a puppy and is ALLOWED to be acting like this! anyway im trying!

Thanks xx
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