I can't clean my storm door and it's making me nuts!

I have a storm door--fixed glass on top, fixed screen on bottom, and glass that slides up and down in front of the screen (or behind it, depending on where you stand). The screen is not removeable and the glass in front of it is filthy and I can't clean it.

Would I be crazy if I cut the screen out (leaving the frame) and bought one of those old-timey adjustable screens? I don't keep my front door open very often.

I have been fiddling with the screen for days and it's making me crazy. I can see no way to get it out.
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I have a storm door like that - I wonder if yours is the same. I can take the sliding panel off and clean it, then put it back on. If you squeeze the levers as if you were going to open the window, then pull the bottom of the glass out, you can then remove the glass, clean it and put it back in (insert the top, squeeze the levers, fix the glass then release). Will yours do that?
Oh my gosh, I so know the feeling!!!

When we moved here, they said the great thign about all our windows is... they pop out so you can clean them and will pop right back. I thought GREAT esp since we can't clean the outside from the second floor. Well, they're dirty and we have NO IDEA how they popped it out. In fact, after looking at our window, we think it's impossible (though we saw them do it).

I HATE looking at it!! Hope you find a way to clean yours. :P
If they are anything like our windows, once you squeeze the things in, tilt the window at angle so that one side is higher than the other and the window should slip out. If that doesnt help can you take the screen out by unscrewing the frame/????
I've already put hole in the screen with the screwdriver from fiddling. Nope, the glass doesn't come out. I tried raising it and with the levers in, popping it out, but it doesn't come out of the track. The screen is also fixed on a track, so no screws are holding it.

I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem. Jo, when I moved in 3 years ago my sister and brother managed to get the screen out so I know it can be done but they said it was a bear to get in and out (I think they just used brute force) and they aren't around to help anyway.
Perhaps an acid-based cleaner (like CLR) sprayed through the screen, kept wet for 20 minutes, then rinsed with pressure from say a hose?

Just thinking out loud.
Jo,

If your windows are sliders, have you tried grabbing hold and lifting straight up? There's just enough play to allow the bottom to swing out. Only the slider section is removeable.

If double hung: http://www.marvin.com/default.aspx?page=Tilt_and_Remove_MagnumDH

If triple pane, I too could never quite figure those out.

Now for the door window.........how do you move it up and down? The pins that lock the window in the upper position probably can be pressed in to the window frame and then the whole window come out. Getting them back in tries my patience, but it can be done.....as said above, you have to tilt them a bit.

I absolutely hate when the screens "just pop out". First time you do it, the frame bends and you are sunk. Also those little plastic tabs one is suppose to grasp break off after a year or two in the sun.
I have the same door too. I actually changed around the glass and screen sections - Put the glass on the bottom and the screen on the top half. Kids and dogs only connected with the glass instead of ripping out my screens all the time. I take out the sliding section of glass every month or so to clean all sides of both glass pieces. How frustrating not to get it out!
I was thinking along the same lines as Ron, can you open the door and spray the windwo with a hose through the screen?
The hose idea is good, but the spigot is in my garage which is on the opposite side of my condo. At least 100 feet. And no outdoor faucet. I think I'm stuck with a dirty window.
Have you tried calling a bldg supply place that carries that door? A sales person might be able to talk you through the process.
got sheep wrote:
I have the same door too. I actually changed around the glass and screen sections - Put the glass on the bottom and the screen on the top half. Kids and dogs only connected with the glass instead of ripping out my screens all the time. I take out the sliding section of glass every month or so to clean all sides of both glass pieces. How frustrating not to get it out!


okay - once a month! I feel so inadequate :oops:
kerry wrote:
got sheep wrote:
I have the same door too. I actually changed around the glass and screen sections - Put the glass on the bottom and the screen on the top half. Kids and dogs only connected with the glass instead of ripping out my screens all the time. I take out the sliding section of glass every month or so to clean all sides of both glass pieces. How frustrating not to get it out!


okay - once a month! I feel so inadequate :oops:


Only in the nice months!

If it makes you feel better, it sits there uncleaned over the cold winter months. :D
got sheep wrote:
kerry wrote:
got sheep wrote:
I have the same door too. I actually changed around the glass and screen sections - Put the glass on the bottom and the screen on the top half. Kids and dogs only connected with the glass instead of ripping out my screens all the time. I take out the sliding section of glass every month or so to clean all sides of both glass pieces. How frustrating not to get it out!


okay - once a month! I feel so inadequate :oops:


Only in the nice months!

If it makes you feel better, it sits there uncleaned over the cold winter months. :D


it doesn't :cry: :oops: :cry:
you could just have bogart come over. He did a good job taking mine out!
Baloo could help Bogart. Between the 2 of them they could do it.

(Baloo jumped at our screen door when he saw a squirrel about 2 weeks ago and popped the whole thing out!!)
I found that there is a plastic strip along the bottom of the sliding glass where the spring loaded clips are that you push inward to make the glass slide up and down. The strip can be partially removed on either end with a flat head screwdriver so that you can slide the spring loaded clips farther inward, and remove the window for cleaning!
i have to agree with going to your blg supply store and if you can take a picture of it with you. it's rather difficult for me to describe how to do it as others have already, but i believe if you're armed with a picture they can tell you and show you. :)
I just moved into a house and all of the windows were filthy. My storm door is exactly like the one you described. Here is the trick for mine (my neighbor showed me)...hopefully yours are the same. About half way up on the storms there are little "notches" on the sides. They keep the window from falling out ( I guess). Take a flat head screwdriver and push the notch in. My windows popped right out.
Paula O. wrote:
I have a storm door--fixed glass on top, fixed screen on bottom, and glass that slides up and down in front of the screen (or behind it, depending on where you stand). The screen is not removeable and the glass in front of it is filthy and I can't clean it.

Would I be crazy if I cut the screen out (leaving the frame) and bought one of those old-timey adjustable screens? I don't keep my front door open very often.

I have been fiddling with the screen for days and it's making me crazy. I can see no way to get it out.


you pry up carefuly the bottom panel of glass, then slide the top panel down and you can get at the other side that the screen portion is normally blocking .
I have read the posts, and they could be confusing, if you have never done it before. When the window is up, are there spring "locking" tabs that keep the window up? If you squeeze them in (as if you were going to slide the window down), then, squeeze them a little harder (the tabs in the track go further out of locking the position), the bottom of the window will come out of the track. If you take a half a step backwards to angle the window away from the door, you can gently move the window in a clockwise (or counterclockwise) movement. As the window "turns" the tabs at the top will release it from the track so you can clean it. The other "option" is when you squeeze those spring tabs, then, step backwards, the window could "flip up" to wash the backside.
I hope that explains the process better and helps out - the nose slide marks on my windows wears at my nerves as well. My sympathies, if this doesn't help.
On the storm door glass problem...slide the window all the way down the remove the top strip of vinyl by pushing down and peeling out...the on the side tracks you push lightly to collapse the track and peel it out too...repeat on the other side then carefully slide window up and lift it out.
http://youtu.be/OhKuoJ1Sg5g The screen is removal. Found it on utube. So easy. I should have searched utube 5 years ago.
The revival of a 7 year old thread! I gave up on the idea of cleaning the door, but now there are some tips that make sense and I will try.
Same type of door, same probelm. So, after 15 years I called professional window washers. (Everything was beautifully washed, only $5 per window - best investment I've ever made on my house!) They slid the top pane down, then pried out the plastic track guides on the both sides of the upper half, so the window would come out all together.

They put the tracks back, but they are not in correctly, and they left out a strip of plastic that seems to fit horizontally on the opening - we can't figure out where it goes. Aargh!

Glass nad screen are clean, though. :)
OMG Finally! I have been trying to figure this out for weeks. I sent to the Larson website and nothing. Thank you!!!!!
Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou. watched the utube vid and it was so easy. Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou.
We just ran into the same problem so I called the contractor that put in the door. Screen is spring loaded. ReMove the screen, and wash the window. With his info we just sprung the screen and it came out easily and went back in without a problem. This door window combination was installed last April 2016.

Hope this helps
Ann
Get someone to help you. Slide the window up so the slider buttons are about waist high.
Squeeze both of the buttons inwards as far as you can. (This is hard) Then get your partner to grab the top of the window and slide the top to the left. You will be sliding the bottom to the left as hard as you can. The right side will clear the groove and pop right out.
Reverse procedue to replace the window.
Check the sliding window frame and there should be a little triangular notch somewhere on one side or the other. The tab that locks the window in place when you slide it up should come out through the notch and then then other side ( with a little twisting of the panel ) will come out, then angle the glass a bit more and the top locks will come out.
My door has the screen on the top. If I retract the bottom pins (the ones I use to slide the window up and down) the bottom of window can be pulled out. The top pins are stationary, but if I pull the bottom out enough, with just a little clockwise or counterclockwise rotation of the window the top of the window comes out easily. When pulling out the bottom of the window you do have to be mindful of the door handle that gets in the way.
I took a yard stick wrapped with paper towels.and taped it.sprayed it with window cleaner. Lifted the inside window just enough that yardstick got to the top. Passed it a couple of times..it worked!!
It has taken me a very, very long time to figure it out. The screen will come out if you push it sideways. Comes out easy, clean the window in your door then just pop the screen back in. Remember push the screen sideways to pop it out.
So you can have a nice clean storm door after must be 10 years this thread has been going on for. xx
I have the same door & figured it out. Go outside & push screen over to the left side and it will clear the opening to come out. Took me forever to figure it out. Hope this works for anyone else with this door.
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