I can't clean my storm door and it's making me nuts!

I have a storm door--fixed glass on top, fixed screen on bottom, and glass that slides up and down in front of the screen (or behind it, depending on where you stand). The screen is not removeable and the glass in front of it is filthy and I can't clean it.

Would I be crazy if I cut the screen out (leaving the frame) and bought one of those old-timey adjustable screens? I don't keep my front door open very often.

I have been fiddling with the screen for days and it's making me crazy. I can see no way to get it out.
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I have a storm door like that - I wonder if yours is the same. I can take the sliding panel off and clean it, then put it back on. If you squeeze the levers as if you were going to open the window, then pull the bottom of the glass out, you can then remove the glass, clean it and put it back in (insert the top, squeeze the levers, fix the glass then release). Will yours do that?
Oh my gosh, I so know the feeling!!!

When we moved here, they said the great thign about all our windows is... they pop out so you can clean them and will pop right back. I thought GREAT esp since we can't clean the outside from the second floor. Well, they're dirty and we have NO IDEA how they popped it out. In fact, after looking at our window, we think it's impossible (though we saw them do it).

I HATE looking at it!! Hope you find a way to clean yours. :P
If they are anything like our windows, once you squeeze the things in, tilt the window at angle so that one side is higher than the other and the window should slip out. If that doesnt help can you take the screen out by unscrewing the frame/????
I've already put hole in the screen with the screwdriver from fiddling. Nope, the glass doesn't come out. I tried raising it and with the levers in, popping it out, but it doesn't come out of the track. The screen is also fixed on a track, so no screws are holding it.

I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem. Jo, when I moved in 3 years ago my sister and brother managed to get the screen out so I know it can be done but they said it was a bear to get in and out (I think they just used brute force) and they aren't around to help anyway.
Perhaps an acid-based cleaner (like CLR) sprayed through the screen, kept wet for 20 minutes, then rinsed with pressure from say a hose?

Just thinking out loud.
Jo,

If your windows are sliders, have you tried grabbing hold and lifting straight up? There's just enough play to allow the bottom to swing out. Only the slider section is removeable.

If double hung: http://www.marvin.com/default.aspx?page=Tilt_and_Remove_MagnumDH

If triple pane, I too could never quite figure those out.

Now for the door window.........how do you move it up and down? The pins that lock the window in the upper position probably can be pressed in to the window frame and then the whole window come out. Getting them back in tries my patience, but it can be done.....as said above, you have to tilt them a bit.

I absolutely hate when the screens "just pop out". First time you do it, the frame bends and you are sunk. Also those little plastic tabs one is suppose to grasp break off after a year or two in the sun.
I have the same door too. I actually changed around the glass and screen sections - Put the glass on the bottom and the screen on the top half. Kids and dogs only connected with the glass instead of ripping out my screens all the time. I take out the sliding section of glass every month or so to clean all sides of both glass pieces. How frustrating not to get it out!
I was thinking along the same lines as Ron, can you open the door and spray the windwo with a hose through the screen?
The hose idea is good, but the spigot is in my garage which is on the opposite side of my condo. At least 100 feet. And no outdoor faucet. I think I'm stuck with a dirty window.
Have you tried calling a bldg supply place that carries that door? A sales person might be able to talk you through the process.
got sheep wrote:
I have the same door too. I actually changed around the glass and screen sections - Put the glass on the bottom and the screen on the top half. Kids and dogs only connected with the glass instead of ripping out my screens all the time. I take out the sliding section of glass every month or so to clean all sides of both glass pieces. How frustrating not to get it out!


okay - once a month! I feel so inadequate :oops:
kerry wrote:
got sheep wrote:
I have the same door too. I actually changed around the glass and screen sections - Put the glass on the bottom and the screen on the top half. Kids and dogs only connected with the glass instead of ripping out my screens all the time. I take out the sliding section of glass every month or so to clean all sides of both glass pieces. How frustrating not to get it out!


okay - once a month! I feel so inadequate :oops:


Only in the nice months!

If it makes you feel better, it sits there uncleaned over the cold winter months. :D
got sheep wrote:
kerry wrote:
got sheep wrote:
I have the same door too. I actually changed around the glass and screen sections - Put the glass on the bottom and the screen on the top half. Kids and dogs only connected with the glass instead of ripping out my screens all the time. I take out the sliding section of glass every month or so to clean all sides of both glass pieces. How frustrating not to get it out!


okay - once a month! I feel so inadequate :oops:


Only in the nice months!

If it makes you feel better, it sits there uncleaned over the cold winter months. :D


it doesn't :cry: :oops: :cry:
you could just have bogart come over. He did a good job taking mine out!
Baloo could help Bogart. Between the 2 of them they could do it.

(Baloo jumped at our screen door when he saw a squirrel about 2 weeks ago and popped the whole thing out!!)
I found that there is a plastic strip along the bottom of the sliding glass where the spring loaded clips are that you push inward to make the glass slide up and down. The strip can be partially removed on either end with a flat head screwdriver so that you can slide the spring loaded clips farther inward, and remove the window for cleaning!
i have to agree with going to your blg supply store and if you can take a picture of it with you. it's rather difficult for me to describe how to do it as others have already, but i believe if you're armed with a picture they can tell you and show you. :)
I just moved into a house and all of the windows were filthy. My storm door is exactly like the one you described. Here is the trick for mine (my neighbor showed me)...hopefully yours are the same. About half way up on the storms there are little "notches" on the sides. They keep the window from falling out ( I guess). Take a flat head screwdriver and push the notch in. My windows popped right out.
Paula O. wrote:
I have a storm door--fixed glass on top, fixed screen on bottom, and glass that slides up and down in front of the screen (or behind it, depending on where you stand). The screen is not removeable and the glass in front of it is filthy and I can't clean it.

Would I be crazy if I cut the screen out (leaving the frame) and bought one of those old-timey adjustable screens? I don't keep my front door open very often.

I have been fiddling with the screen for days and it's making me crazy. I can see no way to get it out.


you pry up carefuly the bottom panel of glass, then slide the top panel down and you can get at the other side that the screen portion is normally blocking .
I have read the posts, and they could be confusing, if you have never done it before. When the window is up, are there spring "locking" tabs that keep the window up? If you squeeze them in (as if you were going to slide the window down), then, squeeze them a little harder (the tabs in the track go further out of locking the position), the bottom of the window will come out of the track. If you take a half a step backwards to angle the window away from the door, you can gently move the window in a clockwise (or counterclockwise) movement. As the window "turns" the tabs at the top will release it from the track so you can clean it. The other "option" is when you squeeze those spring tabs, then, step backwards, the window could "flip up" to wash the backside.
I hope that explains the process better and helps out - the nose slide marks on my windows wears at my nerves as well. My sympathies, if this doesn't help.
On the storm door glass problem...slide the window all the way down the remove the top strip of vinyl by pushing down and peeling out...the on the side tracks you push lightly to collapse the track and peel it out too...repeat on the other side then carefully slide window up and lift it out.
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