OES is agressive!!!!

I am putting this question out to all of my fellow sheepie lovers. I have a wonderful 2 year old oes that has one major problem....she gets very upset when my other dogs are getting attention and she is not. She takes out her agression by attacking my Pitt Bull/ Lab mix in particular. Two weeks ago, they got into a fight that left everyone (including me) with broken bones and stitches. I have contacted a behaviorist because this issue is little out of my training expertise. Any suggestions from people who have dealt with an oes like this would be greatly appreciated.

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My first question would be is she spayed? OES females can be really "bitchy" to begin with. I would definately get someone in to help you, but spay her if you haven't yet...it should take the edge off her at the least.
Your OES is not agressive, she is possessive. So hence the attack on your other dog. She wants you all to herself.

Have you had her since a pup?

For the time being till you get help to get this possessive trait worked out by calling in a professional I would not let her near the other dogs. If you have a crate, crate her well away in another room and spend time playing with the others where she can't see then put them away and do the same for her. One on One time with each till the jealousy issues can be resolved.

Feeding always well away from each other and bowls taken up straight away. When all are together, if that is possible at the moment, then ignore her and if she is being well behaved around the others then acknowledge that good behaviour if she is being growly or looks like she is ready to attack then she goes away. She needs strict boundries set at the moment and good behaviour rewarded bad attitude then she gets attention from no one & put away for a time out. I would also never leave her unsupervised with the others at the moment, if you want them in the same room then have her on a lead for you to have total controll and not let a fight situation eventuate again till your issue with her is resolved. At the moment her trust is ZERO so she needs boundaries set so the situation will not happen again and she needs strict routine and supervision till that trust and confidence with her behaviour to the others is earnt again.

Good luck with everything and if she is not de-sexed then do get her spayed, hormones on the bitches when intact can make them grumpy and a bit more highly strung. Like all females :wink: :lol:

I am sorry you got hurt as well, very hard to break up a frenzied dog fight without getting bitten or hurt yourself, there is no easy answer there when two are in the throws of a frenzied fight. :(
I forgot to ask...is the target dog also a female? They can be the hardest relationships to deal with. I usually have one of each sex.
Both dogs are spayed females that fought. I have a third dog (a neutered male) who she doesn't even bother with. Right now I continue to keep them separated in different rooms allowing each one a couple hours to run outside and around the house.
I am by far an authority, but I am curious, in what order did you get the dogs? Could the order of the pack be an issue?
I have my Bella because she didn't get along with females. When I got her I just had a 5 month old boy. She bosses him around and is very grabby, but we don't have any fights. If you can't find a trainer maybe she would be better without other females. I avoided females for a long time because they are so smart, that they can be difficult to train.

Good luck and best wishes on whatever your solution may be. I know it is difficult to deal with.
I have also had this problem with my two females,keeping them apart most of the time seemed to work best for me especially during feeding.
Hope you find a solution.
I have never had a problem with all females together.

Have to ask again have you had her from a pup?

Was she introduced to the house after the other female?

Is the other female older and if so how old?
My other female is 6 years and my oes just turned 2. I did have my Pitt/Lab Mix (Diamond) before i brought CharlieGirl into the family.
Yes, I did have her from a puppy. She was 4 months when I got her
Mine can get possessive of me or other family members. It's a form of resource guarding. It's limited to sneering or low growling, but it's not acceptable.

What is most effective for me to do is to remove the resource (me) from the position of being guarded. That means, I either leave the room (which is often not very convenient but still the most effective action) or send the dogs out of the room (less inconvenient and a little less effective). Bottom line is that I don't put up with it. It's a work in progress. Hubby and I were talking today: I'm up and out the door before anyone else is about and there have been issues with who gets to be closest to dad while he's eating breakfast. I told him the best answer is: no one. First sign of trouble and they're out of there. Whether or not he'll enforce it is something else.

However, you've got serious injuries here: stitches AND broken bones (how did the bones get broken???!!! I hope everybody is recovering nicely!). Honestly, I'd consult a dog behaviorist who likes and understands sheepdogs. The risk of this type of injury recurring is not acceptable. Your safety is very important.
The bone in my finger was crushed because I got bit in the process of trying to break them apart. Removing yourself in theory would be great....if my sheepie was becoming agressive over me. She is fine with me giving the attention...It is when other people give the attention that causes and issue
A little late to help what's already happened but if there is another fight grab one from behind, lifting her back legs as high as you can, and walk backwards. This will only work IF the other dog will stop fighting at that point. I have all boys, 2 are older and 2 will be 1 soon. One of the little ones is a huge momma's boy and gets possessive of me and will start a fight. I keep a loud whistle handy, the noise will startle them so you can intercede and break it up. Good luck, it's a tough problem.
My advice is to NEVER let them together! At least not until you can have her evaluated, and trained by a good trainer.

It's not worth taking a chance on one of them, or you getting hurt, especially when you know there is a problem.

I had a couple littermates (sister's) many years ago, and up until they were about a year old they were fine. Then, one day they got into a good one when I called one of their names. I tried a few more times to keep them together, but to no avail. I kept both girls, but I had to keep them apart.

Sure am glad me, and my sisters don't fight like that!
mouthypf wrote:
Sure am glad me, and my sisters don't fight like that!



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