Arthur-from the dogs in trouble topic
I need some advice. I started grooming Arthur, he has had his flea and tick bath and I trimmed what I could off of him with the sissors. I started shaving the mats off of his feet but now he will not let me get near him with the clipper. I talked with a friend of mine who is a groomer and she can groom him next Friday. The reason for waiting is he is so skinny, bone sticking out an all that she does not want to cut him. I am going to clean all the cuts on his legs and feet the best I can with the hair there but what I really need it to fatten him up. So my question is what food would be best to give him to help him put on some wieght? He is very energetic and loves to play. I have been trying to limit his play so he burns less calories but it's a little hard to do with 3 happy dogs  I have heard there is a food at Petco and Petsmart that is made for high energy dogs so they take in more calories than they burn but that is all I know about it. Any advice would be wonderful.
Thanks so much, Christina and Arthur |
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| Will he be going to see the vet soon? It seems the vet could guide you on what's best. If he's emaciated, he probably should be seen as soon as possible. Take a stool sample in and have him heartworm tested too... just to rule out parasites as a reason for his low weight. Also mention the ticks... not sure how prevalent lyme disease is in Minnesota.
Also, keep the butter out of reach. High fat intake can cause Pancreatitis. Quote: Dogs with diets high in fat, or dogs who 'steal' or are fed greasy 'people food' seem to have a high incidence of the disease.
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm ... icleid=335 I hope he'll be on his way to gaining the needed pounds soon!  |
6Girls wrote: Will he be going to see the vet soon? It seems the vet could guide you on what's best. If he's emaciated, he probably should be seen as soon as possible. Take a stool sample in and have him heartworm tested too... just to rule out parasites as a reason for his low weight. Also mention the ticks... not sure how prevalent lyme disease is in Minnesota.
Also, keep the butter out of reach. High fat intake can cause Pancreatitis. Quote: Dogs with diets high in fat, or dogs who 'steal' or are fed greasy 'people food' seem to have a high incidence of the disease. http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm ... icleid=335 The Butter is now up high where he can not get it.
Stephen is going to go see Arthur's vet where he is and see what he says. We were going to try and wait a week for Stephen to get here and bring him home before bringing him to the vet since his vet knows him. If his vet thinks he should be seen now I will bring him into mine. There is Lymes here not as much as other areas but it is here. Your right, he should have lab work done on his stool and blood. Other than being really skinny he seems very healthy, but I know that doesn't mean he is. |
| I agree with Jaci on having Arthur checked for worms. We've had a few rescues here that were so pathetically thin and they usually had internal parasites of some sort. Putting Arthur on any good quality kibble in reasonable portions will cause him to put on weight. My personal preference is Eagle Pack or Innova Large Breed but they're more difficult to obtain than brands like Nutro that are available at Petsmart. There are other threads here on the forum about contents of various dog foods you may want to check out.
Unless the other dogs are hurting Arthur, I wouldn't limit his play. He really needs the exercise to build up muscle. Even the thinnest dogs are tougher than they appear. And, it will spark his appetite. It's generally a good idea to avoid a lot of activity right after a meal to help prevent bloating, though. Keep us posted on Arthur's progress and thank you for helping this boy out of a bad situation.  |
If you've never been around a counter surfer, they definitely take you by surprise. Makes you feel like you've been robbed!  Speaking from experience here. Mine even turned on the stove... 2 1/2 years after adopting her, the burner knobs are still removed after use even though she no longer counter surfs.  She trained us well... |
| I have spoken with my Vet and she told me that as far as feeding him, to bring him along slowly with puppy food wet and dry but she also warned of trying to get his wieght up to quickly. She said it took along time to get him up to 65 pounds naturally. She also said that we should make sure he has a really soft place to lay down becuase he could get sores from being so boney. She said as soon as Arthur gets back to me I should bring him in to get checked. Since he was basically starving. He was getting his energy from some where for instance his organs so there will be alot of checks to see how his body is getting back normal. She was also worried about what might be under all the matted fur so she warned to be careful of that also. |
6Girls wrote: If you've never been around a counter surfer, they definitely take you by surprise. Makes you feel like you've been robbed!
Speaking from experience here. Mine even turned on the stove... 2 1/2 years after adopting her, the burner knobs are still removed after use even though she no longer counter surfs. She trained us well...I was totally suprised!! My Buddy only dreams of being a counter surfer, he would never try for fear I would get mad at him. He hates when I am upset with him. I have not yet caught Arthur in the act but know it is him. I have since removed anything edible from the counters. |
| I guess I should have warned you about that sorry. |
Stephen wrote: I guess I should have warned you about that
sorry.lol It's ok, I figured it out after 2 sticks of butter!! Everything is moved now so he can't get anymore. He is pretty good at it. We just came in the house from playing ball, he is all exited. He would rather of stayed out and played for another hour. |
| HI Buddy's Mom, I am going to attach a link, hopefully, for something called "Satin Balls". I got this from another dog board that I view and have always read great success stories about it's usage in adding pounds when needed. Take a look and see if it is something that may help Arthur out. http://www.holisticdog.org/Nutrition/Sa ... balls.html Take good care. Jack |
jackcjjc wrote: HI Buddy's Mom,
I am going to attach a link, hopefully, for something called "Satin Balls". I got this from another dog board that I view and have always read great success stories about it's usage in adding pounds when needed. Take a look and see if it is something that may help Arthur out. http://www.holisticdog.org/Nutrition/Sa ... balls.html Take good care. Jack Thank you so much. I will check it out right now |
| Let me second a slow weight gain. Puppy food is a good idea as well as a good quality dog food......something I suspect he has NOT been receiving. Start off slow to see how his body reacts.
If you see a bag of probiotics in the pet store, go ahead and get it.....don't faint at price. A wee bit each day will be helpful. All the play will add muscle which will be the filling out you want to see. The good quality food will help build the muscle. You don't want a lot of fat in their diet........pancreatitis....or however you spell is could creep in......and you might loose him. Have the stools checked as already mentioned. Mostly he needs psychological healing which is a stable home with a good balanced dog family. Once he realizes he's where he should be, he will make great leaps in health. |
Right now I am giving him puppy food about 5 times a day. I am not letting him eat too much at a time and he is doing really well with that. We weighed him today and he is only 46 pounds 
He has been playing outside with me and with the dogs although he is really not quite sure how to play with them. He just hang out around them and watches, sometimes running around with them. He is starting to figure out we are not going to hurt him so he is really comming out of his shell. He has really been watching my Buddy and watching me with Buddy. He will not come over when Buddy is with me but as soon as Buddy leaves he comes right over to me, not too close and stares at me until I pet him. He is such an awsome dog. He melts my heart. As much as I will be happy to see Stephen come and get him I will be sad to see him go. |
buddythesheepdogliveshere wrote: As much as I will be happy to see Stephen come and get him I will be sad to see him go.
Christina -- Did you get photos of Arthur yet? Surely your vet, friend, neighbor has a digital. Poor guy. Sounds like he is pretty thin. Yes, the obvious is to get a fecal exam on him ... It's good to hear that you are working towards getting him to a good weight, however, am I missing something here? Do you have any of his vet records? Vaccinations? Rabies, etc.? Heartworm test, etc.? Should he be exposed to your other dogs, children, etc. without knowing his health history? Stephan's vet can certainly provide all of Arthur's vet records to your vet via fax so you know what vet work was done prior to Arthur being in your home. It's important that you get the records faxed to your vet right away. Also --is it legal for Arthur to travel across state lines without a health certificate? A health certificate means that the dog has to be completely vetted and ok'ed by a vet. It's my understanding that all dog traveling across state lines must have a health certificate. Please do the right thing for Arthur -- your family and your other pets. And thanks for all you've done and are doing for Arthur. |
Anonymous wrote: buddythesheepdogliveshere wrote: As much as I will be happy to see Stephen come and get him I will be sad to see him go. Christina -- Did you get photos of Arthur yet? Surely your vet, friend, neighbor has a digital. Poor guy. Sounds like he is pretty thin. Yes, the obvious is to get a fecal exam on him ... It's good to hear that you are working towards getting him to a good weight, however, am I missing something here? Do you have any of his vet records? Vaccinations? Rabies, etc.? Heartworm test, etc.? Should he be exposed to your other dogs, children, etc. without knowing his health history? Stephan's vet can certainly provide all of Arthur's vet records to your vet via fax so you know what vet work was done prior to Arthur being in your home. It's important that you get the records faxed to your vet right away. Also --is it legal for Arthur to travel across state lines without a health certificate? A health certificate means that the dog has to be completely vetted and ok'ed by a vet. It's my understanding that all dog traveling across state lines must have a health certificate. Please do the right thing for Arthur -- your family and your other pets. And thanks for all you've done and are doing for Arthur. Hello, Before I picked him up I was told by Stephen and his Mom that he has had all of his shots. He was just left at the sisters a few months ago and Stephen had all of that done before he left him there. I trust that he is being honest about it. I also trust that when Stephen brings him to his vet is something comes up I should know about he will let me know. As far as me exposing my family to him, I would take the chance. My kids and my dogs are all healthy and have had their shots, ect. This dog needed my help and I was not going to let not seeing his vet records for myself stop me. Maybe I should have maybe not. I also was not going to kennel him in my back yard to keep him away from everyone. He was put in a kennel and left there to starve. I am not sure about the laws on transporting a dog across state lines. I am sure Stephen has looked into it as he did bring him here. I will ask to be sure so he can look into it. Thanks for pointing that out. |
Quote: Also --is it legal for Arthur to travel across state lines without a health certificate? A health certificate means that the dog has to be completely vetted and ok'ed by a vet. It's my understanding that all dog traveling across state lines must have a health certificate.
Christina, I have traveled and moved across state lines with dogs many, many times and have never heard of such a requirement. After all, we don't have border patrols at state lines! There are requirements to transport a pet via aircraft, so maybe that is what "Anonymous" is confused about. You did the right thing in rescuing Arthur. No matter what anybody else thinks, sometimes you just have to trust your instincts, and I'm sure yours were correct in this instance. |
| I believe each state has different requirements but, you must
always be able to show proof of vaccines if traveling. (best to be prepared!) When we travel we always keep the dogs records in the car. I would mainly worry about Arthur being so thin....if he has intestinal worms your children, other dogs and you could pick something up. Maybe until Arthur's dad can pick him up you could have his records faxed to your vet and at least do a stool exam, deworm if needed....when is Stephen picking him up? |
essgee52 wrote: Quote: Also --is it legal for Arthur to travel across state lines without a health certificate? A health certificate means that the dog has to be completely vetted and ok'ed by a vet. It's my understanding that all dog traveling across state lines must have a health certificate. Christina, I have traveled and moved across state lines with dogs many, many times and have never heard of such a requirement. After all, we don't have border patrols at state lines! There are requirements to transport a pet via aircraft, so maybe that is what "Anonymous" is confused about. You did the right thing in rescuing Arthur. No matter what anybody else thinks, sometimes you just have to trust your instincts, and I'm sure yours were correct in this instance. Thank you!! I do belive I did the right thing. Even if someone would have told me there was something wrong with him I would have done it anyway. I could never leave a dog there to suffer. Thanks for your input on traveling |
Donner's Mom wrote: I believe each state has different requirements but, you must
always be able to show proof of vaccines if traveling. (best to be prepared!) When we travel we always keep the dogs records in the car. I would mainly worry about Arthur being so thin....if he has intestinal worms your children, other dogs and you could pick something up. Maybe until Arthur's dad can pick him up you could have his records faxed to your vet and at least do a stool exam, deworm if needed....when is Stephen picking him up? I don't belive worms was the cause for his being so thin, I could be wrong though. She really did just starve him. I have also been watching his poop and with him gaining weight now with food and his poop looking good I feel it was just her cruel starvation which caused him to be so thin. I am going to however have Stephen let me know when his vet runs a stool sample how it turns out just to be on the safe side. Thanks for bringing that up I could run a sample over to my vet and have them run it just to be sure. I think by now though they would all have to be treated since he has been here for a while now.
Stephen is hoping to pick him up on or around June 1st. |
| The anonomous guest who also posted on the original Arthur is in trouble thread is more than likely my sister who I had a conversation with today. While typing I will try not to curse. But she of course denied abusing Arthur but is now threatening to take my mother to court. For what I do not know. I cant get a hold of Christina. I think we should ignore guests on any discussion on or regarding Arthur at least until I get this situation solved. |
| Don't worry Stephen...Arthur is in good hands. I am sure Christina will get back to you right away. |
| How is Arthur doing? Any news?
His story has captured a lot of hearts. Thanks in advance for letting us know.  |
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