very hyper puppy

Ive had my oes puppy for about 3 weeks now and I cant stand how hyper she is! I wanted her to be an inside pet but she is such a spaz I been keeping her outside. I cant stand a hyper dog. She is so anoying that I think I made a mistake. I dislike her more and more everyday. Is this normal for this breed?
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Hi Hope
They are a very energetic breed!
Also they are puppies for quite a while--time and patience!
Where are you located?
Maybe taking her to a doggy park and Obedience classes would calm her down a touch!
They need excercise!
They also want to be very much with their people!
Leaving her outside may make her excitement level even higher!
Do you go out with her and play???
You can get lots of good advice here...hang in there!
Kathy
How old is your puppy???? ALL puppies need alot...alot...ALOT of exercise..the mantra on this forum...is A TIRED PUPPY IS A CALMER PUPPY!!!!

You seem to be very frustrated with her and that is sad. Are you both in an puppy obedience class??? The trainer will teach you how to positively handle all the different issues that each puppy stage brings.

I can tell you it is really not good for a dog of any age to be left outside..I do not know where you live, but if you have seasons, summer can be brutal for an OES..especially a puppy. They tend to overheat even when they are shave down. And IF you shave her down, you will have to watch sunburns on her sensitive puppy skin...pink skinned dogs are prone to skin cancers.

If you find you just cannot deal with this very fiesty puppy please consider contacting a rescue in your area for rehoming.

Unfortunatly only you can say if you have made a mistake...But from your words..."disliking her more and more every day" is not a good sign that you should continue with with puppy.

A puppy needs alot of love, patience, understanding, patience..and patience. Raising a puppy is like raising a child ---- They deserve people who love them and want them to be by their side in the evening...not outside in the yard.

I don't mean to sound harsh...just my opinion......

Good Luck and keep us posted on how this will turn out....
Hello, where are you?
Taking her training may well help.

Yes these dogs are very energetic, they just keep going & going! It's hard work! Puppies need lots of play, even something like searching for treats or teaching them to 'sit', or 'come' will make them a bit more tired. As they get older they relax a bit and when their hips develop more you can walk longer which will make them tired too.

We are here to help, so don't be afraid to ask. It's much better to understand you are not able to look after an energetic puppy -and then re-home it- instead of struggling on & getting depressed because you have to leave it outside. It's great that you posted this! Think carefully about what you want to do, we will do our best to help you :ghug:
I never met a puppy that wasn't hyper! It is their nature. A puppy needs lots and lots and LOTS of exercise. They also need attendion. If you are keepi9ng your puppy outside and not giving it enough exercise that may well be why she is acting out.

A puppy needs a couple LONG walks and intermittent play trhoughout the day. SO often people get a puppy not realizing what a tremendous amount of work they are in the the early days. Like a baby they require much attention and time.
Our last oes was like yours very very hyper. I changed her food, you dont say what you are feeding your baby on? But I found any treats that were not really good quality with no additives and colours made her hyper. Rather like a toddler....You need quality time with your pup. Sitting stroking and bonding will help. Also if you shut her out she will go mad when she meets you again she needs to be able to see you. 3 weeks is not long, but as others have said if you really feel you cant stand your pup, it would be better to contact a re homing or perhaps the breeder?
An OES will be hyper for at least 2 years.

Perhaps you could see if your breeder will help you find her a new home.
hope wrote:
Ive had my oes puppy for about 3 weeks now and I cant stand how hyper she is! I wanted her to be an inside pet but she is such a spaz I been keeping her outside. I cant stand a hyper dog. She is so anoying that I think I made a mistake. I dislike her more and more everyday. Is this normal for this breed?


1) Yes, it's normal at that age and in this breed that age lasts a long time.

2) Keeping her outside will make her worse, not better. This breed needs to be with their people. Plus, you can't train an outside dog. Much. Only training and deliberate exercise will make the hyperness controllable. Not less, just livable for say the next two years. :wink:

3) if you decide you've made a mistake, please consider surrendering her to rescue. Normally you should contact her breeder first - a reputable breeder will take her back. Hers seems to not have prepared you for the harsh realities of OES puppyhood - has she been any help in terms of helping you cope with the adjustments? You have to really LOVE an OES puppy to make it work, because they will push your patience to the limit.

4) please tell us what we're doing wrong in terms of giving people who are researching the breed an accurate idea of what it takes to survive OES puppyhood? Are we spending too much time cooing over cute fluffiness and missing the part where this is an incredibly intelligent high energy working breed that will question everything you ask of them and needs a job or they will make up their own?

Maybe we need to put together a montage of OES puppyhood in its realistic, gory glory? I'm pretty sure I can contribute some pics of muddy pawprints five-six feet up the wall, nose prints on top of the refrigerator and, of course, foster child Maggie's hobby:

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Only one puppy (14 mos old) in this group:

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They're a wonderful breed but a ton of work. Well worth it. But like I said, you have to really love them. And you can't be upset with a puppy for being - a puppy.

Kristine
Here's some of Toby's puppy destruction around 10-11 months. The pictures are a little dark but you'llnotice dirt from several houseplants that met their end, pillow cases removed of their pillows. Towels and every toy in the house strewn throughout the living room. These don't even really show the whole destruction!
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Hi Hope-
How old is your puppy and have you started any training? Even 9 weeks old isn't too young to start- http://oesusa.com/KayteeSit.html

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I cant stand a hyper dog. She is so anoying that I think I made a mistake. I dislike her more and more everyday.

This breed is not for everyone and maybe you would be better suited to a more mature dog rather than a puppy. If she just doesn't fit your lifestyle, will the breeder take her back? If not, please consider contacting an OES rescue... they have experience with the breed so she can be properly placed this time around... and the new family can always get good advice from people experienced with the breed. http://www.oes.org/html/oes_rescue.shtml

OESs are an enthusiastic and exuberant breed... by about 2 to 3 years old, my four mellowed out but they keep their goofy, happy, love of life behavior for years. They make fabulous companions for the right people and require patience and training... more so than smaller breeds simply because of their size. They are intelligent but can be strong-willed. They are generally not a breed that takes well to being put out in the backyard because most need human interaction.

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Leaving her outside may make her excitement level even higher!

This is exactly true... they've been separated from what they crave and it's bound to make things worse.

Please let us know if you need help. A home has GOT to be right for both owner and dog.
OH MY! I love the destruction pictures!! I just expect this from any puppy. I have little fosters now and have the collateral damage on my table on the deck. I guess we are used to it and just laugh. All puppies are hyper some more than others but I would be worried if I had a calm puppy I would think something was wrong. Play play play with your pup and throw some basic commands in like sit and stay and lots of praise, maybe a puppy class? Please please bring her in the house and are you grooming her?/ an out side sheepie will get matted and dirty. Good luck with your girl! Is this your first puppy?
I found that letting the puppy chase me for a few minutes calms her down completely. When she gets hyper I run around my house and she LOVES it. She tries to stop me. When we are outside I run around the yard and she chases me on her leash. I also play tug of war with her with a rope chew toy when she catches me. After a few minutes of that I let her drink and eat and put her in her crate with a treat. She is asleep right now because I just did that with her!
That is great!! A trainer we went to told me that "chase me" was a great game to teach a dog, it encourages them in the "come command".

I know that when Tasker was younger, and more bull headed, if I ever had trouble making him "come" all I had to do was start a "chase me" game and he was right at my heels.
The chase game is a great game. It really takes very short amount of high activity to calm down this puppy. I can tell she is ready for a nap when we are outside and she lies down to chew on something every few steps we take. She sleeps a lot, which is great for me, but I spend a lot of time with her to make sure she is not bored. I am definitely looking forward to seeing my hard work pay off one day!
Not all puppies are hyper -0 as I have found out. But OES puppies (even the quiet ones) are apparently more hyper than a lot of other pups. I raised two OES pups at the same time - in the winter. and used to wonder about people who said they had too much energy. They seemed normal to me. Now we have Mr. Newfie puppy and boy is he a slug. Exactly what my husband wanted! They play fopr 30 seconds puppy is tired out and asleep.

My 2.5 yo OES can't figure out why this puppy lays down so much. Morgan (OES) is besides himself with puppy play and the puppy is sleeping in the sun.

You may have the wrong breed for you and I would encourage you to see if your breeeder can rehome the dog. then you may want to do a little more research on what kind of dog fits your expectations.
Hi Hope, I fully support everything that has been said! Puppies are puppies they have a lot of energy that needs to be worked off. At 9 weeks they only have two speeds "Full" and "stop". As they get older they do develop a "slower" speed we've seen glimpses of it with Bella she is almost 18 months. However, the more exercise that she gets with us the better she behaves in the house. The other point is that sheepdogs are Velcro dogs. They want to be attached to you and with you all the time.

Sheepdogs are wonderful dogs. They are lovers and clowns and smart and silly all at once. But as others have said they are not for everyone, they require a lot of work in grooming and in training. However, it is repaid ten times over with what they give back in being a part of your family.

Good luck with your decision.
Everyone's shared some wonderful things about the breed.

One more thing to consider...
Your pup will never learn proper house manners if she's kept outdoors. She won't have the opportunity to to learn what is acceptable and what isn't. Puppies should have access to smaller areas at first and larger areas of the house only with constant supervision. THIS is the way they learn limits... and it can take a lot of repetitive training for them to finally figure out, "Oh yeah... that's not allowed in the house."
my pup will be 12 weeks tomorrow and it has been my goal to be on him as much as possible. i beleive you should try to tire him out BEFORE he tires you out. sometimes a quick game of tug can do WONDERS!!! and if you get good enough with one hand yuou can even mulit-task. :P to be honest i'm a little shocked at how surprised you seem hope....what did you expect from a puppy? they do sleep a fair bit (so i now understand-thanks guys!) but keeping a puppy isolated will only make your problems worse. these are PEOPLE dogs and left alone they are suseptable to mental anxiety - which will in turn make them more crazy when you do let them run free. i waited over a year to get my OES because i knew i would need TIME, time and more time to spend with him otherwise i too would go crazy. perhaps you could call on the help of family/friends to help expend some of his energy if you are finding yourself too busy? training OF COURSE, but perhaps in the mean time?
good luck and stick around these parts - there is SO MUCH support :wink:
This thread worries me. It sounds like you are fed up already. Please contact the breeder you got her from or the closest rescue. Leaving her outside can cause all kinds of anxieties that may be hard to overcome later. We all make mistakes, our breed may just be the wrong one for you. No one would fault you for doing the right thing for both of you!!
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We all make mistakes, our breed may just be the wrong one for you. No one would fault you for doing the right thing for both of you!!

Exactly so... we can feel the frustration you're experiencing. It's apparent
that this was not a good match. Please speak with the breeder or OES rescue.
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